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School Theater Install - Advice?

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I work at a school with an 800 seat theatre. We have morning assembly every day. There has been a sharp increase in powerpoint presentations. Up till now, we've been using spare projectors in our inventory - a PLC-WX250 (or similiar - most of our classroom / portable projector are around 2500 lumens), rear projecting onto a 13' by 17' screen on the stage. The projector is set up 20' behind the screen, giving a rough 200" diagonal. Obviously, it hasn't been very bright - 25 FL according to official calculations on Projector Central's calculator. Plus, I'm stick on constantly having to set things up - so I've gotten approval to go for an installed system.

I should mention - as a private school, I'm under orders to do this on a strict budget. I'm trying to keep exepnses to a minimum.

Projector would need to be mounted 9ft off ground, 20ft back. When I'm looking through Projector Central's database, I'm looking in the 5000-7000 lumen category. So here's what I keep running into - using stock lenses, projectors in this category would throw an image far too small (144') or far too large (380') at that distance. I should mention - 20ft is the distance from the back wall to the projector screen, and moving either isn't an option. What can I say, limits of architecture.

The next issue - take something like the PLC-XM100. $3K for a 5K lumens. But to get a proper-sized image (200ish inches), I'd need to replace the stock lens with a LNS-W20 - which costs $2.5K, and would only give me 32FL.

So that's where I'm stuck. A $500 projector gives me 25FL, whereas a $5.5K projector setup would give 32FL - kind of hard to justify that price with a small increase in performance.

The closest I can come to optimizing for this setup is a 3M X95i - standard lens would give a 185" diagonal at 20ft with 44FL.

Advice, tricks I'm missing, things I'm just being stupid on?
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What type of screen material is it and what is its gain?
post #3 of 6
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It's a Dalite Datex, gain of 1.0
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It sounds like you will need a 1.2 lens at that distance (1.2 x 200" = 240" or 20')....at least for 16x9 aspect. It's tough to find a high-brightness projector that also has decent color and contrast....and that's not a lot of $. I was thinking you might look into a closeout on a professional 720p 3-chip DLP (4500ANSI), but it's doubtful you'll find one with that short a lens. You could put a Navatar wide angle adaptor lens over a 1.3 or 1.5 and shorten the throw that way, but I'm not sure how that would affect the focus at the outer edges. Or you could just get a bright business projector like an NEC or something and live with contrast and color deficiencies.
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I would guess you need o keep looking for one with the right lens (throw ratio).

otherwise you could look into a single surface mirror and do a "bounce". This can give you more throw but it is a bit trickier to set up.
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I would guess you need o keep looking for one with the right lens (throw ratio).

otherwise you could look into a single surface mirror and do a "bounce". This can give you more throw but it is a bit trickier to set up.

I'm assuming this is 4:3 if the screen is 17' x 13'. I doubt you are getting anywhere near 25 foot lamberts otherwise you wouldn't be saying it's dim. If the bulb is old you could be getting as little as 20% of the rated spec.
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