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post #1561 of 2827
1/17/12 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

Well, this IS an owner's thread not a calibration thread. Posters come here with a perceived picture issue looking for help. "Go buy a meter" or "Get a professional calibration" just isn't a very helpful response.


To best explain how I see our difference of opinion on this topic I'll present a fictitious dialog between a new owner of this set and someone with your rigid point of view:

[New owner]: Hey everybody! I just picked up one of these bad boys and plugged in the CNET review settings. Picture looks awesome - you guys should check these settings out. Here's a link...

[Calibration Purist]: No, no, no - you can't do that. Sharing display menu settings between different sets will not work. You've made the picture worse.

[New owner]: So I should reset it?

[Calibration Purist]: Yes.

[New owner]: Ok. Bummer...

[Calibration Purist]: You are doing the right thing.

I hope you can see how ridiculous this looks.


To add to this:


Calibration is a technical thing and also a belief. Anytime you question a persons beliefs there will be , reaction, questionings and fear of loosing the notion of "having it all figured out". People don't react well to having their mind set messed with. So, in some cases. . . maybe let others have their own mind set, if it isn't a threat to life or freedoms. The possibilities for owners desire to set up their TV are many:

1. I want a fast and easy set up for my TV inputs with as little fuss as possible.
I would like to use the presets, but maybe make some settings in Expert to get that yellow tinge out of the picture.

2. I want to know what the settings do on my TV, so I can get a good picture and learn enough to do that with the controls available without a lot of time invested. I don't believe a TV is a laboratory device capable of complete accuracy so damn the torpedo's and let's get to it!

3. I want to know ALL about why there are all these controls, what they do and how to use them. And, what? There may be differences from one brand or model of TV and another? How do I deal with that? I want complete accuracy! I don't care if it's a $400 low end for the bedroom or my $5,000 home theater! I just KNOW I can wring more out of it!- - - -Go to the Display Calibration sub-forum

And there are probably a couple more scenarios. I went the to the deep end of calibration obsession in the past, and have settled on adapting to what people want. Most people do move on. Maybe next it will be wood working tools, audio equipment [vintage or new], or car restoration and collecting. And all the levels involved in those things.
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post #1562 of 2827
1/17/12 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by djams View Post



This perfectly describes my own attempts to make adjustments "by eye". I'd spend hours getting it "perfect", then turn it on the next day and...

My eye can NOT be trusted.

Not mine. I have perfect chromatic photographic memory!
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post #1563 of 2827
1/17/12 at 10:18am
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

LOL ... You know, in over 15 years of tinkering around with various degrees of calibration levels and spending entirely *too much* time cruising AVS and other home-theater sites (even going back to the old USENET (RIP) forums) the one post I've never seen is the one that says:

'Hey guys I finally got around to getting a colorimeter. Last night, I checked my "eye-balled" calibration that took me months to settle on ... and guess what I had it nailed!!! Perfect!!!! Woooooooootttttt!!!! Anyone want to buy a used colorimeter?'

On the contrary, these folks usually just wind up slinking away or they pop up timidly in the calibration forum and start asking a bunch of (newbie) questions. Fast forward a few months and suddenly they're "grizzled vets" arguing over the merits of i1D2's vs. specto's vs. profiling for specific displays.

Ya'll *can* do what ever you want. I'm just trying to save you some time, spare you from endless frustration (and ultimately from public embarrassment.)

Carry on.

PS: By "ya'll" I don't mean you personally, djams

Yeah, I've tried everything when it comes to calibration, from copying settings, to setting the basics properly with a setup disc, to doing a full calibration with various colorimeters (including standard and enhanced D2's and D3's). Still, it seems like I might need a spectro or to call in a professional before I can truly know my TV is producing the best picture it's capable of. Looking back, it would have been much easier and cheaper if I'd have bought a cheap colorimeter from the start plus a spectro to profile it with. At the moment, I have a pricey colorimeter with no spectro, which is not ideal.
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post #1564 of 2827
1/17/12 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

And many of us are here to dispel
the misinformation that they have to buy an additional piece of equipment to get the best picture quality. There is always something to sell. And those who have purchased a meter (or 2,3) HAVE to defend the purchase they made lest they appear duped into a bad purchase. Agreed, though, if you want to make a hobby of using a meter that may be fine for some. But it certainly isn't necessary.

It's worth mentioning the flip side to this logic as well. Those who lack a meter or a decent one have to defend their decision to eyeball advanced picture settings because they were either unwilling to do it right with a good meter or pro or simply can't afford or justify spending any significant amount of money on calibration. It's easy to bash meters when you don't have one, primarily to justify trying to set advanced picture settings by eye to make it seem like you know what you're doing. Something to think about.

I'm willing to admit my C6 may not be as accurate as I thought it was when I bought it, but I know it's still massively better than anything I can achieve by eye, both objectively and subjectively. I know my meter may be imperfect on my display, but do you know how futile it is to try to adjust by eye or copy advanced picture settings (grayscale/gamma/CMS)? Do you truly believe your eyes can calibrate those advanced controls/areas with even a hint of accuracy? Placebo effect, anyone?
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post #1565 of 2827
1/17/12 at 1:05pm
At the time I bought my X-Rite D2 it was considered the "Good" or decent (as you say) meter in the pack, much better than the Spyder, the Eye-One LT, and several others. In fact, some still consider it pretty good, but it will drift. You are the one who made the bash (Post #1583) about "those who have cheap meters", etc. And I made no comment. Ever think of that? Pro-grade? No, but neither is your D3-C6 and as you have found it still isn't what you thought it was after further discovery. So who is "bashing" who for what reasons here?

You know, I went through all of this. I'm not bashing meters in particular, just the insistance that some who have one saying a person has to have one or use one on the TV to get the "best" picture. When "best" is whatever an owner may want. Accurate, fine, a whole 'nother thing.

Besides, the response wasn't to you. Why keep up this kind of arguing? You don't have to agree with me and others also think using 2-Point has worked quite well to remove undesirable tints. Others have done it and we are satisfied.

Is anyone else here in the room in favor of a truce and cease fire?
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post #1566 of 2827
1/17/12 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

At the time I bought my X-Rite D2 it was considered the "Good" meter in the pack, much better than the Spyder, the Eye-One LT, and several others.

The LT and the D2 are the exact same hardware.
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post #1567 of 2827
1/17/12 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

When "best" is whatever an owner may want. Accurate, fine, a whole 'nother thing.

If your goal is a subjectively pleasing picture (whatever that means to you, I have no idea what that would be), then your eyeball method for grayscale would work fine. When I say best picture, however, I mean most accurate to the source material (matching as closely as possible to the reference monitor on which the content was mastered, such as with BD and DVD movies). If the point of your advice is not accuracy and the point of my advice is accuracy, then there's no point to arguing at all as we are not even talking about the same thing nor do we have the same goal. In that case, it is up the each owner to decide what their goal is and then they can follow the relevant advice to achieve that goal.
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post #1568 of 2827
1/17/12 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

In that case, it is up the each owner to decide what their goal is and then they can follow the relevant advice to achieve that goal.

That's pretty much it and what myself and others of have been saying all along in one way or another. It's not what is pleasing to me, it's about what is pleasing to most people who have no interest in the technical aspects of picture quality. I have an "accurate" calibration on my TV. As accurate as the D2 did for me. I also have another setting in Expert 2 which was not obtained with the D2. You probably will not believe it, but awhile back I was a stickler of only total accuracy, Djams too and some others. But as he pointed out, most people just want a good picture with the least amount of effort and some advice with connections, cables, lighting and occasional issues that crop up. I have worked on TVs and more complex electronic equipment since I was 16 years old. The gray scale on a TV is nothing compared to the 64 step gray scale used on some medical/industrial systems for analysis. So I do know a bit about it.

I've also referenced use of the AVS HD709 disc and other discs to people countless times as well as other discs to those who wish to get the best with little investment. But as Djams pointed out, most people coming to the owners thread want minimum fuss to get their TV going. There is always the Display Cal. sub forum if they want more. For most, talk of IREs, dE, gamma, etc is a lot of confusing complication.
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post #1569 of 2827
1/17/12 at 3:34pm
To you guys involved in this squabble about calibration, could you either shelve the discussion or move it to the Display Calibration subforum? While the debate is interesting, you've filled this thread with 50+ posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the LG LK450/LK520.

I usually don't mind tangential discussions, as that is the nature of normal conversation. But legit LK450/LK520 posts are getting lost in the shadows of these posts about calibration tools and methods. Posts like my LK450 / AMD mini-DisplayPort issue
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post #1570 of 2827
1/17/12 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by thepoohcontinuum View Post

To you guys involved in this squabble about calibration, could you either shelve the discussion or move it to the Display Calibration subforum? While the debate is interesting, you've filled this thread with 50+ posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the LG LK450/LK520.

I usually don't mind tangential discussions, as that is the nature of normal conversation. But legit LK450/LK520 posts are getting lost in the shadows of these posts about calibration tools and methods. Posts like my LK450 / AMD mini-DisplayPort issue

I totally agree and myself and others have suggested it belongs in that forum several times. It is in several of my posts.

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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

T There is always the Display Cal. sub forum if they want more. For most, talk of IREs, dE, gamma, etc is a lot of confusing complication.
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post #1571 of 2827
1/17/12 at 11:27pm
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Originally Posted by thepoohcontinuum View Post

To you guys involved in this squabble about calibration, could you either shelve the discussion or move it to the Display Calibration subforum? While the debate is interesting, you've filled this thread with 50+ posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the LG LK450/LK520.

I will be happy to honor this very reasonable request
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post #1572 of 2827
1/18/12 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by thepoohcontinuum View Post

To you guys involved in this squabble about calibration, could you either shelve the discussion or move it to the Display Calibration subforum? While the debate is interesting, you've filled this thread with 50+ posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the LG LK450/LK520.

I usually don't mind tangential discussions, as that is the nature of normal conversation. But legit LK450/LK520 posts are getting lost in the shadows of these posts about calibration tools and methods. Posts like my LK450 / AMD mini-DisplayPort issue

Sorry about that; I got carried away and forgot this is an owners thread and not the display calibration sub-forum. Anyway, I'm getting my set professionally calibrated so that I once and for all know it is set properly. And I will keep technical discussions out of this thread in the future.
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post #1573 of 2827
1/18/12 at 4:58pm
Does anyone know if the 42lk450 is good for xbox360? Low input lag?
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post #1574 of 2827
1/18/12 at 6:42pm
Can anyone comment on the picture quality of the LK450 with respect to the Samsung LN40D550? The impression I get from all the reviews I have read and opinions on this forum is that the two TVs basically come out tied.

In a nutshell, what I gather is that the LK450 has advanced picture settings that allow it to attain more realistic colors, but said settings are somewhat undone by its weak blacks. And while the Samsung LNXXD550's picture settings aren't as advanced as the lk450, color not as realistic, its better blacks close the gap to a certain extent. Unfortunately it's narrow viewing angles cause colors to wash out quickly when not directly center of TV. So all in all, the lk450 and sammy d550 end up nearly tied in terms of picture performance.

Is that a fair assessment? Or are there circumstances under which one TV's weakness is not as much of a factor giving it an edge over the other? The reason why I'm asking is that while I was unable to detect any real color degradation as I moved off-center while checking out the D550 at several stores, now that I have it set up at home, I find I am having a hard time ignoring it. Find myself wondering if an ips panel lk450 might be a better option considering where the TV would be located in my room; and whether the lk450's notorious weak blacks would be as big of an issue seeing as how my room always stays fairly well-lit.

I know several of you such as PlasmaPZ80U have had first-hand experience with both TVs, and are quite knowledgeable about the ins and outs of the lk450. Any more thoughts any of you would like to share about your time with either or both TVs, I'd definitely be interested in hearing about them.
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post #1575 of 2827
1/18/12 at 9:28pm
Hi,

I am trying to make my LG 47LK520 works with my Pioneer VSX-821. In fact, I am trying to send the audio from my TV (while watching my tv antenna) to my VSX thru the HDMI using the ARC feature.

First of all, I have enabled the HDMI control on my VSX with the ARC option. My LG tv somehow sees the VSX since when I close the tv, the VSX close itself. Btw, turning on the tv again does not turn on the VSX .. wierd.

Anyway, in the SIMPLINK menu, I see the 'Watch TV' option along with the option to select the 'TV Speaker' or 'HT Speaker'. The 'HT Speaker' option does not work since no sound is coming from my VSX.

I am using a high speed HDMI cable from monoprice which is HDMIv1.4. The HDMI cable is plug in the HDMI input 1 on my 47LK520.

What am I doing wrong ?
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post #1576 of 2827
1/18/12 at 10:55pm
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Originally Posted by Z0RrO View Post

Hi,

I am trying to make my LG 47LK520 works with my Pioneer VSX-821. In fact, I am trying to send the audio from my TV (while watching my tv antenna) to my VSX thru the HDMI using the ARC feature.

First of all, I have enabled the HDMI control on my VSX with the ARC option. My LG tv somehow sees the VSX since when I close the tv, the VSX close itself. Btw, turning on the tv again does not turn on the VSX .. wierd.

Anyway, in the SIMPLINK menu, I see the 'Watch TV' option along with the option to select the 'TV Speaker' or 'HT Speaker'. The 'HT Speaker' option does not work since no sound is coming from my VSX.

I am using a high speed HDMI cable from monoprice which is HDMIv1.4. The HDMI cable is plug in the HDMI input 1 on my 47LK520.

What am I doing wrong ?

The LK series does not support ARC.
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post #1577 of 2827
1/18/12 at 10:59pm
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Originally Posted by emoney35 View Post

Can anyone comment on the picture quality of the LK450 with respect to the Samsung LN40D550? The impression I get from all the reviews I have read and opinions on this forum is that the two TVs basically come out tied.

In a nutshell, what I gather is that the LK450 has advanced picture settings that allow it to attain more realistic colors, but said settings are somewhat undone by its weak blacks. And while the Samsung LNXXD550's picture settings aren't as advanced as the lk450, color not as realistic, its better blacks close the gap to a certain extent. Unfortunately it's narrow viewing angles cause colors to wash out quickly when not directly center of TV. So all in all, the lk450 and sammy d550 end up nearly tied in terms of picture performance.

Is that a fair assessment? Or are there circumstances under which one TV's weakness is not as much of a factor giving it an edge over the other? The reason why I'm asking is that while I was unable to detect any real color degradation as I moved off-center while checking out the D550 at several stores, now that I have it set up at home, I find I am having a hard time ignoring it. Find myself wondering if an ips panel lk450 might be a better option considering where the TV would be located in my room; and whether the lk450's notorious weak blacks would be as big of an issue seeing as how my room always stays fairly well-lit.

I know several of you such as PlasmaPZ80U have had first-hand experience with both TVs, and are quite knowledgeable about the ins and outs of the lk450. Any more thoughts any of you would like to share about your time with either or both TVs, I'd definitely be interested in hearing about them.

I'd go with the LK450. I own the 42Lk450 (S-IPS) and it has a very nice picture especially after calibration. I have no issues with the blacks and I'm usually picky. Maybe it's because I paid $190 for it? BTW, the viewing angles are very good. Blacks turn a tad grayish at wide viewing angles but nothing extreme.
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post #1578 of 2827
1/19/12 at 4:41am
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

The LK series does not support ARC.

Only the LK series with the Smart TV feature such as my LK530 and the LK550 support ARC.
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post #1579 of 2827
1/19/12 at 5:21am
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Originally Posted by emoney35 View Post

Can anyone comment on the picture quality of the LK450 with respect to the Samsung LN40D550? The impression I get from all the reviews I have read and opinions on this forum is that the two TVs basically come out tied.
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Well, the LG is 42". . . . 2" larger!

And, when I saw it in stores, to me, the LG looked like the matte screen was less shinny if room reflections may be an issue.
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post #1580 of 2827
1/19/12 at 7:38am
Where did you get this information ? I am not questioning the trueness of your answer, I wanna know where to search for this kind of information in the future.
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post #1581 of 2827
1/19/12 at 8:30am
2 emoney35

It's a classic case of "Pick your poison".
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post #1582 of 2827
1/19/12 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by Z0RrO View Post

Where did you get this information ? I am not questioning the trueness of your answer, I wanna know where to search for this kind of information in the future.

Submitted an email support question on the LG website. A long time ago. I just dug the email up, and I see that I asked them specifically about the LK520 sets. As you can see from gfrix76 response above, some models do have ARC apparently.

In general, for something like ARC it will state support for the feature in the specs. If its not listed, it doesn't have it.
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post #1583 of 2827
1/19/12 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by emoney35 View Post

Can anyone comment on the picture quality of the LK450 with respect to the Samsung LN40D550? The impression I get from all the reviews I have read and opinions on this forum is that the two TVs basically come out tied.

In a nutshell, what I gather is that the LK450 has advanced picture settings that allow it to attain more realistic colors, but said settings are somewhat undone by its weak blacks. And while the Samsung LNXXD550's picture settings aren't as advanced as the lk450, color not as realistic, its better blacks close the gap to a certain extent. Unfortunately it's narrow viewing angles cause colors to wash out quickly when not directly center of TV. So all in all, the lk450 and sammy d550 end up nearly tied in terms of picture performance.

Is that a fair assessment? Or are there circumstances under which one TV's weakness is not as much of a factor giving it an edge over the other? The reason why I'm asking is that while I was unable to detect any real color degradation as I moved off-center while checking out the D550 at several stores, now that I have it set up at home, I find I am having a hard time ignoring it. Find myself wondering if an ips panel lk450 might be a better option considering where the TV would be located in my room; and whether the lk450's notorious weak blacks would be as big of an issue seeing as how my room always stays fairly well-lit.

I know several of you such as PlasmaPZ80U have had first-hand experience with both TVs, and are quite knowledgeable about the ins and outs of the lk450. Any more thoughts any of you would like to share about your time with either or both TVs, I'd definitely be interested in hearing about them.

I have owned two LN32D550's, one an early build and one a late build and black levels were excellent on both. Uniformity on the first was pretty bad though, with some clouding in dark scenes and vertical banding in dark to mid brightness scenes with a uniform pattern (kinda like an dim all gray screen). The second one had no clouding but still had a significant amount of vertical banding. In terms of overall color accuracy (grayscale and gamut), neither of those were nearly as good as my current 42LK450 with the S-IPS panel, with the later build having significantly less accurate colors that the early build. In terms of gamma, both D550s had very nonlinear gamma that was too bright in the low end and too dark in the high end. Once again, the later build was worse in this respect when compared to the early build. The LG, on the other hand, has perfect color and gamma post calibration and in general outperforms the D550s in all areas except for black levels, which are mediocre to poor depending on your vertical viewing angle and room lighting. Also, the D550 will dim a completely black screen after a second or so and this means when watching certain content like the beginning or end of a movie, the screen will looking like it is blinking on and off every time the movie fades to black or goes blank.

Based on all this, I'd pick the LG 42LK450 over the Samsung LN40D550 in a heartbeat, assuming it has an S-IPS panel. Black levels can't make up for everything else that bothered me about the D550.
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post #1584 of 2827
1/19/12 at 2:15pm
Just went to Best Buy and picked up a 55LK520! Got 10% off of their sale price and the 4 year black tie protection. This replaces a 2 year old LG 47LH55 that had an entire line of resolution go black a few weeks ago. So far I'm very satisfied, PQ seems just as good as the 47", and cost me $250 less then I paid 2 years ago! Just in time to watch my Niners smash NY!

Where is the code that shows what kind of panel it is?
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post #1585 of 2827
1/19/12 at 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by Jay1 View Post

Just went to Best Buy and picked up a 55LK520! Got 10% off of their sale price and the 4 year black tie protection. This replaces a 2 year old LG 47LH55 that had an entire line of resolution go black a few weeks ago. So far I'm very satisfied, PQ seems just as good as the 47", and cost me $250 less then I paid 2 years ago! Just in time to watch my Niners smash NY!

Where is the code that shows what kind of panel it is?

It usually is on the "product " label on th outside of the box.

It should have something like: 55LK520 UA.AUSYJZ. Also, you can look at the screen and check for < < < < pixels with a jewlers eye loupe or tthe eye piece off of a microscope, telescope or binoculars. You might be able to see the pixels by also looking at the screen using the binoculars backwards.
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post #1586 of 2827
1/19/12 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

It usually is on the "product " label on th outside of the box.

It should have something like: 55LK520 UA.AUSYJZ. Also, you can look at the screen and check for < < < < pixels with a jewlers eye loupe or tthe eye piece off of a microscope, telescope or binoculars. You might be able to see the pixels by also looking at the screen using the binoculars backwards.

I guess its great to know I lucked out! I was debating on if I should bother in case it was a VA panel, buyers remorse and all. Right now it's just on expert 1 with the backlight up to 70, I'll play around with my Spears and Munsil disc late tonight. I attached a couple cell phone pics.
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post #1587 of 2827
1/19/12 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by Jay1 View Post
I guess its great to know I lucked out! I was debating on if I should bother in case it was a VA panel, buyers remorse and all. Right now it's just on expert 1 with the backlight up to 70, I'll play around with my Spears and Munsil disc late tonight. I attached a couple cell phone pics.
Spears and Musil is great. I would recommend keeping back light much lower though to improve black level. Always increase brightness if you have to rather than back light. LCD panels leak light somewhat, so the lower the better.

Back light for starters in the mid 30's to low 40's has proven best and more than sufficient for high light output level.

You might try this setting for Cinema first. It will help you get familiar with the menu and most settings before tackling Expert.

Cinema has the closet color temperature usually to ideal, and you can always tweak brightness and Contrast up to whatever room light conditions you have. Room lighting is also very important to observe. Keep ceiling lights off and any lamps that will shine directly onto the screen or into your eyes. A 15 watt warm or bright white compact florescent bare bub behind the TV really works well! Arrange the light so it reflects off of the wall and ceiling area BEHIND the TV. This is the best and lowest cost thing you can do to help you set your TV properly. Also, always let the TV warm up 20 to 30 minutes before doing any changes or adjusting of settings.

 

LG XXLD550 HDMI CINEMA (User) PICTURE 12-2-2011 Medium Usable Range.txt 0.912109375k . file
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post #1588 of 2827
1/19/12 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

Spears and Musil is great. I would recommend keeping back light much lower though to improve black level. Always increase brightness if yo have to rather than back light. LCD panels leak light somewhat, so the lower the better.

Backlight for starters in the mid 30's to low 40's has proven best and more than sufficient for high light output level.

You might try this setting for Cinema first. It will help you get familiar with the menu and most settings before tackling Expert.

I had the lights off for that picture, normally they're on (99% of the time). I turned up the backlight until the image looked bright enough. I will try using the brightness control instead though.
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post #1589 of 2827
1/19/12 at 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

Spears and Musil is great. I would recommend keeping back light much lower though to improve black level. Always increase brightness if you have to rather than back light. LCD panels leak light somewhat, so the lower the better.

Back light for starters in the mid 30's to low 40's has proven best and more than sufficient for high light output level.

You might try this setting for Cinema first. It will help you get familiar with the menu and most settings before tackling Expert.

Cinema has the closet color temperature usually to ideal, and you can always tweak brightness and Contrast up to whatever room light conditions you have. Room lighting is also very important to observe. Keep ceiling lights off and any lamps that will shine directly onto the screen or into your eyes. A 15 watt warm or bright white compact florescent bare bub behind the TV really works well! Arrange the light so it reflects off of the wall and ceiling area BEHIND the TV. This is the best and lowest cost thing you can do to help you set your TV properly. Also, always let the TV warm up 20 to 30 minutes before doing any changes or adjusting of settings.

FYI, the brightness setting (black-level) actually sets the brightness of black, while contrast (white-level) and backlight affect overall brightness

in other words, raising brightness in place of backlight/contrast will not have the desired effect
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post #1590 of 2827
1/19/12 at 7:46pm
You misunderstand. Of course it does, but perhaps you are always looking for something "wrong".

I'm saying that instead of having back light so high at 60 or 70, lower it to increase black level (make it darker) and increase brightness accordingly to establish the black level for dark detail to be visible.

Jay1 apparently understood what I meant based on his response.

But it's probably all in interpretation. No matter how I would say it some people would have to find fault.
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