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post #211 of 2833
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

I think a description of what it does exactly would be very long and extremely boring

Here is a link that describes what it does in general. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge_enhancement

Bottom line is that the TV is changing (supposedly "enhancing") the picture, which I don't like. My feeling is that if you have a good HD signal, there is no need for edge enhancement. As far as side effects, the main thing I noticed is that it makes hair look funny sometimes. I also noticed halos/ringing occasionally.

Edge Enhancement often causes dot crawl on SD sources.
post #212 of 2833
Hello,

I'm looking to buy a TV for use as a computer monitor shortly. This thread has been quite helpful, but I was wondering if anyone had numbers for the input lag of the LK520. It's the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger.

Thanks
post #213 of 2833
I will return my LG 47LK520 tomorrow after a lot of calibration and test... I dont know if ive got a bad panel but i can always barely see small spot and the neon sometime like they have dust on the screen (easy to see in shooter like Black OPS). i have one dead pixel too. My local bestbuy got some stock back, but i have fear that all those lcd panel are inconsistent (3 years ago ive changed a computer panel from lg like 3-4 time before ive got a good one). I can't see if my problem is on the demo at best buy because the feed was so jerky and crappy.

Anyone have this problem ? maybe ive got a bad set ? ive just got a samsung PN51D440 from wal-mart, its only 720p but it blow the LG away.

Do you think i did the best move ? ive paid 689$ CAN for the LG and it will be impossible to find another one at this price point... I like the deep black so much on the samsung plasma.

let me know what you think folks !
post #214 of 2833
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Originally Posted by will1983 View Post

I will return my LG 47LK520 tomorrow after a lot of calibration and test... I dont know if ive got a bad panel but i can always barely see small spot and the neon sometime like they have dust on the screen (easy to see in shooter like Black OPS). i have one dead pixel too. My local bestbuy got some stock back, but i have fear that all those lcd panel are inconsistent (3 years ago ive changed a computer panel from lg like 3-4 time before ive got a good one). I can't see if my problem is on the demo at best buy because the feed was so jerky and crappy.

Anyone have this problem ? maybe ive got a bad set ? ive just got a samsung PN51D440 from wal-mart, its only 720p but it blow the LG away.

Do you think i did the best move ? ive paid 689$ CAN for the LG and it will be impossible to find another one at this price point... I like the deep black so much on the samsung plasma.

let me know what you think folks !

Sounds to me like you've got a bad set. Anyone can, and does, make bad sets from time to time. I've got last year's 47LD520 and it's just fantastic so YMMV. Plasmas in general are known for their deep blacks, LCDs not so much but there's trade-offs with both technologies.
post #215 of 2833
Has anyone tried connecting their PC through the D-Sub (PC) input? Does it look good still and support 1920x1080 resolution?

I'm thinking of trying the panel lottery again. If it ends up being a VA panel, I could just give it to my mother who needs a bigger monitor anyways. Thing is, her PC only has a D-Sub output.
post #216 of 2833
Hello All.

They just delivered the LG 55LK520 not even 20 minutes ago.

It's plugged in and running and the number is . . .

55LK520-AU.AUSYLJR

YAY!

Will have loupe confirmation sometime soon.
post #217 of 2833
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Originally Posted by RhubarbToast View Post

Hello,

I'm looking to buy a TV for use as a computer monitor shortly. This thread has been quite helpful, but I was wondering if anyone had numbers for the input lag of the LK520. It's the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger.

Thanks

Hi rhubarb - if you are going to be using the tv exclusively as a monitor, then the LK450 would be a better choice than the LK520
post #218 of 2833
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Originally Posted by extrabyte000 View Post

Hello All.

They just delivered the LG 55LK520 not even 20 minutes ago.

It's plugged in and running and the number is . . .

55LK520-AU.AUSYLJR

YAY!

Will have loupe confirmation sometime soon.

Awesome! Can't wait to hear your impressions of the TV.
post #219 of 2833
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Originally Posted by extrabyte000 View Post

Hello All.

They just delivered the LG 55LK520 not even 20 minutes ago.

It's plugged in and running and the number is . . .

55LK520-AU.AUSYLJR

YAY!

Will have loupe confirmation sometime soon.

Congratulations! And the loupe says........ waiting......waiting
post #220 of 2833
I can confirm that my "Y" panel 37LK450 is indeed an IPS panel. Held a big magnifier up to it and you can clearly see the <<<< pattern and all of its little colors. I guess my camera sucks too much to take a Macro Photo of it. I am in the process of borrowing a better camera to post on here.

Thank you all for your help! I am still working on calibrating it, but the input lag seems very good to me as I cannot tell when I am playing World of Warcraft. I have not tried a FPS yet, but I will tonight!
post #221 of 2833
Ok.

Out of the box, all auto-modes shut off, motion compensation on full (sorry, but I really like it-especially with computer animated movies), no calibration:

Even at this point, you can tell that all of the colors are there in the right way (reds, golds, browns, greens).

So with calibration, I know that this panel can be really sweet.

Black level is good overall.

Uniformity seems above average.

However, there is something a little disturbing/disappointing.

There is significant light bleed coming from a spot in the left and right lower edge, about 2 inches or so from the corners.

You don't notice it when watching a full 16x9, only on letterbox or a black field.

Reducing the backlight (which is currently set to the factory setting of 30) does bring it down for the most part but of course it changes everything else.

After warming it up for about 3 hours, I watched How to Train Your Dragon.

I think this is a really good reference movie for all of the typical reasons as well as (Owls of Ga'Hoole which I haven't watched and won't until I calibrate).

The LG made the movie very engaging and non-fatiguing to watch.

Even at this stage of setup, I felt like everything was being rendered on the screen so I didn't have work extra to watch it.

My blueray player(Sony BDP-S570) is set to YCbCr-444, deep color output-12bit.

Still can't visually verify the screen pattern as I don't have a loupe yet and my camera phone is not doing it even in macro mode.

I'll keep posting as I go along.

Cheers
post #222 of 2833
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Originally Posted by extrabyte000 View Post

Ok.

Out of the box, all auto-modes shut off, motion compensation on full (sorry, but I really like it-especially with computer animated movies), no calibration:

Even at this point, you can tell that all of the colors are there in the right way (reds, golds, browns, greens).

So with calibration, I know that this panel can be really sweet.

Black level is good overall.

Uniformity seems above average.

However, there is something a little disturbing/disappointing.

There is significant light bleed coming from a spot in the left and right lower edge, about 2 inches or so from the corners.

You don't notice it when watching a full 16x9, only on letterbox or a black field.

Reducing the backlight (which is currently set to the factory setting of 30) does bring it down for the most part but of course it changes everything else.

After warming it up for about 3 hours, I watched How to Train Your Dragon.

I think this is a really good reference movie for all of the typical reasons as well as (Owls of Ga'Hoole which I haven't watched and won't until I calibrate).

The LG made the movie very engaging and non-fatiguing to watch.

Even at this stage of setup, I felt like everything was being rendered on the screen so I didn't have work extra to watch it.

My blueray player(Sony BDP-S570) is set to YCbCr-444, deep color output-12bit.

Still can't visually verify the screen pattern as I don't have a loupe yet and my camera phone is not doing it even in macro mode.

I'll keep posting as I go along.

Cheers

Another movie you may want to consider to watch once you calibrate your set is Seabiscuit. It was suggested by the starter of the xxLD550, 520, and 650 thread along with scenes to watch and what to look for. An excellent movie to check your calibration with. I have all enhancements on my Blu-ray player (Panasonic 210B) set to default especially during calibration because I didn't want anything to affect or alter the LG and I've just left them off. Blu-rays and standard upconverted DVDs look fantastic. I would also suggest setting up a ambient light if your room conditions will allow. You'll be amazed at what a simple thing like an ambient light will do to your viewing experience at night. Keep us posted on your progress.
post #223 of 2833
I'm seriously considering buying this t.v. (55LK520). For those who already bought it, does it have any edge bleed or flashlighting in the corners?

thanks.
post #224 of 2833
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Originally Posted by kazyn View Post

I'm seriously considering buying this t.v. (55LK520). For those who already bought it, does it have any edge bleed or flashlighting in the corners?

thanks.

Um. . .read post #221. Or use the "Search Thread" feature at the top right of the thread page.
post #225 of 2833
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Originally Posted by extrabyte000 View Post

There is significant light bleed coming from a spot in the left and right lower edge, about 2 inches or so from the corners.

I've read in other threads here that some have seen this dissipate over time as the frame "relaxes" on the stand. But... I don't think I'd count in this happening. Others have improved or eliminated the problem by loosening the screws on the back of the TV (possible warranty voider?). Both of these 'fixes' indicate that this is a mechanical type of problem. I think since you got an IPS panel, and are unsure of whether you'll get another if you go the replacement route, I'd be inclined to try LG service (or call BB and see what they say). Of course, this is only if it's bad enough to bother you.

We had one member in the xxLDxxx thread that had a 55" non-IPS panel, so this size was subject to the panel lottery last year.

Think you could post a photo?
post #226 of 2833
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

I've read in other threads here that some have seen this dissipate over time as the frame "relaxes" on the stand. But... I don't think I'd count in this happening. Others have improved or eliminated the problem by loosening the screws on the back of the TV (possible warranty voider?). Both of these 'fixes' indicate that this is a mechanical type of problem. I think since you got an IPS panel, and are unsure of whether you'll get another if you go the replacement route, I'd be inclined to try LG service (or call BB and see what they say). Of course, this is only if it's bad enough to bother you.

We had one member in the xxLDxxx thread that had a 55" non-IPS panel, so this size was subject to the panel lottery last year.

Think you could post a photo?

Djams,

Thanks for the tip. I forgot that the casing/bezel can cause that.

I gently squeezed the bezel at that point and it did change it so I think that is the issue.

I'm not really worried about a panel lottery on this piece but I am concerned that if they brought another one in exchange that it might be the same or worse.

So I think I'm going to try adjusting the screws as you suggest and go from there. I have 30 days to return/exchange so we'll see.
post #227 of 2833
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Originally Posted by extrabyte000 View Post

Hello All.

They just delivered the LG 55LK520 not even 20 minutes ago.

It's plugged in and running and the number is . . .

55LK520-AU.AUSYLJR

YAY!

Will have loupe confirmation sometime soon.

Hi extrabyte000 and All

Well done. You have to win every now and again. I have been down to the local LG shop and found a LG 32LK450-TA.AAUYLJD. Now in the early part of this thread there suggestions that they would not have an S-IPS version in the 32. However, this number indicates it is. I am wrong. Any thoughts...

P.S In am in Australia.
post #228 of 2833
My advice for LG LCD is to buy it locally. You will maybe ending up returning it a couple of time. LG quality control seem to be not as good as Samsung.

Samsung will never let a lcd with a bad pixel up for sale but LG yes ! On every LG panel i saw they were always a bad pixel and imperfection, but not in the case of Samsung...
post #229 of 2833
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Originally Posted by will1983 View Post

My advice for LG LCD is to buy it locally. You will maybe ending up returning it a couple of time. LG quality control seem to be not as good as Samsung.

Samsung will never let a lcd with a bad pixel up for sale but LG yes ! On every LG panel i saw they were always a bad pixel and imperfection, but not in the case of Samsung...

Buying locally is always a good idea because you can see what you're buying. As far as LG and Samsung go, it's been the opposite in my experience. That's why I went with the LG. YMMV.
post #230 of 2833
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Originally Posted by philj View Post

Hi extrabyte000 and All

Well done. You have to win every now and again. I have been down to the local LG shop and found a LG 32LK450-TA.AAUYLJD. Now in the early part of this thread there suggestions that they would not have an S-IPS version in the 32. However, this number indicates it is. I am wrong. Any thoughts...

P.S In am in Australia.

LG does manufacture 32" panels (60hz and 120hz only). So I would bet that the TV you mention above is an IPS. TV's made for the north american market are most likely manufactured in Mexico. For Australia, most likely manufactured in somewhere in Asia. Supply chain decisions...
post #231 of 2833
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Originally Posted by philj View Post

Hi extrabyte000 and All

Well done. You have to win every now and again. I have been down to the local LG shop and found a LG 32LK450-TA.AAUYLJD. Now in the early part of this thread there suggestions that they would not have an S-IPS version in the 32. However, this number indicates it is. I am wrong. Any thoughts...

P.S In am in Australia.

No. There have been plenty of people who have mentioned getting a IPS 32LK450. If you're worried, just do the loupe test.
post #232 of 2833
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Originally Posted by Antipodes View Post

No. There have been plenty of people who have mentioned getting a IPS 32LK450. If you're worried, just do the loupe test.

I have seen the 37" and 42" confirmed for the S-IPS panel (via the loupe test), both had a "Y" in the fourth position but not the 32". That doesn't mean though it won't be an S-IPS panel. As suggested, do the loupe test and report back. If the pixel pattern is chevron-shaped (<<<<) it's an S-IPS. Squarish pixels, and it's probably an H-IPS.
post #233 of 2833
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Originally Posted by bigAWL View Post

I'd love to hear from someone with the 47LK520 about the wide viewing angle quality and the reflectiveness of the screen. My room will be pretty brightly lit, and so I'm looking for a screen that controls reflections. And my seating is all around the room, so looking for good viewing from wide angles. Thanks.

I thought I would bump my question once to see if anyone can comment. Thanks.
post #234 of 2833
Anyone compare a LK520 to the LED LV5400(almost identical to LV5500 I assume). Stores want about $300 more where I live for the LED (keep in mind in Canada we can't get sets for nearly as cheap as you guys in the States) trying to decide if it's worth it to spend a little extra and get the LED with better contrast ratios. LV5400 gets SMART TV which from what I've read is a complete joke.

One other thing the LK520 doesn't have unless someone can correct me is Wi-Fi for firmware updates (which I believe the LV5400, LV5500 has).
post #235 of 2833
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Originally Posted by bigAWL View Post

I thought I would bump my question once to see if anyone can comment. Thanks.

Ok. I have the 47LD520, last year's model, I'm assuming that they are very similar. Our family room has a large sliding-glass door facing due East. The room is brightly lit in the morning but gets diffuse light from about 11am on. The door is 90 deg to the left of the tv. We rarely see any glare on the tv during that time. Granted we don't watch tv or movies in the morning so watching at 8am in the summer may be different but I don't think so. At night, we use an ambient light so glare or reflection is not an issue at all. Off-axis viewing is also not that big of an issue for us because most of our viewing is either straight on or at slight angles. I'm fairly anal about viewing. At 10' from dead center, I can move about 5' to either side and see no pq degradation, and this is with a confirmed S-IPS panel. My wife can go further than 5' and she says she doesn't see any difference so it all depends, in part, on how critical you are or need to be.
post #236 of 2833
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Originally Posted by Szarky View Post


One other thing the LK520 doesn't have unless someone can correct me is Wi-Fi for firmware updates (which I believe the LV5400, LV5500 has).

I have the 47LD520 which is probably very similar to the LK520. I purposely bought this set because it didn't have WiFI capability. Updates, at least in this series, are rarely, if ever needed. And if they are, you can download them from the LG site and install them via USB, though in 6 months of owing this tv, an update has not been made available (not needed). Most updates are for the NetApps and not for the tv itself anyway. Built-in WiFi on the tv is nice but I'd rather have WiFi in my Blu-ray player (which I do). The chipsets are usually more robust than those found in the tvs (even tho you don't get the proprietary apps) and it is one less thing to go wrong on your tv should it do so.
post #237 of 2833
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

I have the 47LD520 which is probably very similar to the LK520. I purposely bought this set because it didn't have WiFI capability. Updates, at least in this series, are rarely, if ever needed. And if they are, you can download them from the LG site and install them via USB, though in 6 months of owing this tv, an update has not been made available (not needed). Most updates are for the NetApps and not for the tv itself anyway. Built-in WiFi on the tv is nice but I'd rather have WiFi in my Blu-ray player (which I do). The chipsets are usually more robust than those found in the tvs (even tho you don't get the proprietary apps) and it is one less thing to go wrong on your tv should it do so.

Very good point, did not know you can update firmware via USB. Really looking to save money (or not waste it for things like 3D, Internet TV, Wi-Fi). Every little 'toy' adds about 300-500 here in Canada. 55LK520 is going for $1300. You want LED+Smart TV+Wi-Fi? Add on $350. You want 3D? Add on another $500!! on top of the $350. This is for LCD's, not plasma's. I burnt a lot of money 5 years ago getting a Pioneer plasma so this TV I'm looking to be a bit more cost efficient.

Now just curious about picture quality with LG's LCD vs LED.
post #238 of 2833
Question for you LK series owners. I was just looking at the LK sets on amazon and lg.com. From the photos available at both sites, it appears that LG has changed from the super-shiny piano black bezel finish on the LD series to a more toned down flat or satin-finish black. Can someone please comment on this? I have looked at the LK sets at BB once, but failed to take note of the bezel finish.
post #239 of 2833
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Originally Posted by Szarky View Post

Very good point, did not know you can update firmware via USB. Really looking to save money (or not waste it for things like 3D, Internet TV, Wi-Fi). Every little 'toy' adds about 300-500 here in Canada. 55LK520 is going for $1300. You want LED+Smart TV+Wi-Fi? Add on $350. You want 3D? Add on another $500!! on top of the $350. This is for LCD's, not plasma's. I burnt a lot of money 5 years ago getting a Pioneer plasma so this TV I'm looking to be a bit more cost efficient.

Now just curious about picture quality with LG's LCD vs LED.

I have the Panasonic 210B Blu-ray player and it is a very nice complement to my 47LD520. It has more features than I need (2D-3D) but the price was too good to pass up. The specs are really nice. It is possible to update the firmware via USB but I have not heard of any updates from LG becoming available. Not necessary so far.

As far as LCD vs LED, that you will have to compare yourself at your local B&M. I have very little knowledge of LED but from what I understand most are basically LCD with variations on LED back lighting (edge lighting whatever).
post #240 of 2833
Planning on calibrating the 55LK520 this weekend.

As good as the colors are out of the box, there is definitely a red push that I'm anxious to excise and then to see if all the other colors fall into place, as well as the black level, etc.

I can't seem to find whether or not you can assign a preset mode to an input.

Also those hotspots I mentioned before do seem to be fading away. But I still may try adjusting the frame/bezel screws.

I've also discovered that the LG does a better job upscaling DVD's from my standard def player than the blueray player which I was hoping would not be the case because it would be great to have just one player for everything.

Watching HD cable tv has been enjoyable so far. Especially shows like American Pickers, Pawn Stars, American Restoration. If this calibration turns out as well as I hope it will, then I will be very excited to watch the new season of my favorite series this fall - House, Fringe, V.

Will try to do the loupe test too.
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