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post #301 of 384
As I e-mailed to Sevenz, my mod may not work on the L version, and indeed it may not be approriate for any of the current run of regular S30's. The last pair I got in for a mod measured much better than the original--the midrange was more in line with the bass and didn't require as much baffle step correction. As I recall, I altered my mod accordingly. The stock crossover hasn't changed, so I can only conclude that there has been a change in woofer parameters, or that the early ones I got were just indiosyncratic. The current ones are a little hot in the highs above 10k, but that's not as audible as you might think. So I wouldn't look these gift horses in the mouth too closely. They're an excellent little speaker on their own, and probably not worth the hassle of trying to make small improvements.
post #302 of 384
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Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

The last pair I got in for a mod measured much better than the original--the midrange was more in line with the bass and didn't require as much baffle step correction. As I recall, I altered my mod accordingly. The stock crossover hasn't changed, so I can only conclude that there has been a change in woofer parameters, or that the early ones I got were just indiosyncratic. The current ones are a little hot in the highs above 10k, but that's not as audible as you might think. So I wouldn't look these gift horses in the mouth too closely. They're an excellent little speaker on their own, and probably not worth the hassle of trying to make small improvements.

Don't say that too loud, or I might end up buying the stock version again for a test run.smile.gif
However, I still have my modded ones, so I will be fine - they still sound real good.

Even the so-called older version sounded really nice - and the mods were not a major
difference - however the difference was enough, to raise the level for my enjoyment.
post #303 of 384
Anyone happen to have a used set of these they are looking to sell? Shoot me a PM if so.
post #304 of 384
Has anyone compared the improved, late run of S30s to the SL30s? cool.gif
post #305 of 384
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Originally Posted by taichi4 View Post

Has anyone compared the improved, late run of S30s to the SL30s? cool.gif

I don't really have the evidence to say that Cambridge definitely improved the S30's. I'm not sure exactly what is going on--perhaps random product variation. In any event, it's always been a steal.
post #306 of 384
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Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

I don't really have the evidence to say that Cambridge definitely improved the S30's. I'm not sure exactly what is going on--perhaps random product variation. In any event, it's always been a steal.

Excuse me, Dennis, if I've asked a question that's been asked before, but have you heard the SL30, and have an opinion on the difference?

Thanks
post #307 of 384
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Originally Posted by taichi4 View Post

Excuse me, Dennis, if I've asked a question that's been asked before, but have you heard the SL30, and have an opinion on the difference?
Thanks

No, I haven't. I've just read the web site description. The woofer appears to be the same, but with an air core inductor instead of the stock ferrite core. The tweeter is a little different and may have a higher quality cap. I doubt that any of this would make a significant difference, but I obviously would have to have a pair on hand.
post #308 of 384
Thanks for the response, Dennis. cool.gif
post #309 of 384
bump - Just got a pair of S30's to audition. Is there a way to tell if a pair of S30's is the (potentially improved) later run?
post #310 of 384
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Originally Posted by sdg4vfx View Post

bump - Just got a pair of S30's to audition. Is there a way to tell if a pair of S30's is the (potentially improved) later run?

I do not know of any real so-called mod, from Cambridge on the S30. I can not find any
standard info on this. They may or may not have changed the coil in the crossover.
post #311 of 384
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Originally Posted by zieglj01 View Post

I do not know of any real so-called mod, from Cambridge on the S30. I can not find any
standard info on this. They may or may not have changed the coil in the crossover.

Thanks!
post #312 of 384
Hi folks. I've been researching bookshelf speakers for my new home office for the past two weeks or so, and this thread really caught my attention. My budget is a bit restrictive ($300ish), but the reviews of the S30s in this thread really excited me. Before hearing about these, I was looking at AudioEngine A5s, so I really appreciated ediblestarfish's review of both on the first page of this thread. I'm now wondering if I could pull off the S30s in my office.

Anyway, I'm a newbie - I'm wondering what kind of amp would work well with the S30? Would a low budget t-amp such as the Lepai LP-2020A+ be serviceable with these speakers? Is there a budget friendly amp out there that would do these speakers justice - or should I re-focus my search to Active speakers such as the A5 considering my price point?

If it matters, I plan on listening to the speakers at a close proximity with low/medium volume. I hope to connect both my macbook and turntable from time to time.

Thank you for any insight you guys can provide!!
post #313 of 384
If you intend to use a turntable, I would go with a gently used AVR/Stereo receiver with a PHONO stage. Should keep you inline with your budget and have plenty of power.
post #314 of 384
+1 for getting an order in for these and the S50 after reading this thread. I have Ascend SE 340s in my living room, so had been considering the Ascend CBM 170s, Sierra Is or the Energy CB-10s for a secondary room (which seems to be turning into my primary listening room/man cave), but went with the Cambridges as a result of reading this thread and the fact that they would fit vertically in my built-in cabinet, which has an 11" shelf height. Thanks for the numerous reviews and info posted here.
post #315 of 384
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+1 for getting an order in for these and the S50 after reading this thread. I have Ascend SE 340s in my living room, so had been considering the Ascend CBM 170s, Sierra Is or the Energy CB-10s for a secondary room (which seems to be turning into my primary listening room/man cave), but went with the Cambridges as a result of reading this thread and the fact that they would fit vertically in my built-in cabinet, which has an 11" shelf height. Thanks for the numerous reviews and info posted here.

Glad that you like them - continue to enjoy.
post #316 of 384
I am still enjoying the S30s in a 2.1 set up.

I am considering the S50 center, but from what I've read I'd be better off using an S30 as center.
However the S50 fits physically much better (the TV will stand on it and it can not be raised by more than 6", the S30 will be too narrow and tall for a TV stand even on its side)

Anyone have direct experience with the S50, does it work well as a center?
post #317 of 384
I have not yet received my S30s or S50, but would be glad to give you my impression of them as a set once I receive them and get them hooked up. They are replacing Bose 301s coupled with a Bose VCS-10 as the center. After a recent listening session, I finally became fed up enough with the VCS-10 do something, and set out to replace my fronts and center. So... I am expecting more than subtle improvement, both from the center specifically and from the overall timbre matching across the front. I also run a HSU STF-1 sub with the system.
Edited by jakeroux - 1/17/13 at 3:19pm
post #318 of 384
Just a quick update, as I am still working on placement and resulting calibration using Audyssey, but so far I am really enjoying the S30/S50 set up. I have them powered by a Denon 2112 and paired with a Hsu STF-1 sub, all in a relatively small listening area, with the primary listening position about 7’ from the speakers. The sound is full, deep and enveloping, with the S50, S30s and the sub all blending seamlessly together. Audyssey automatically set the speakers to small, with an 80 Hz crossover, which I have not adjusted.

Comparisons are probably meaningless since the previous Left, Right and Center channels were a Bose grouping (301s & VCS10) that had been used when the room was primarily a kids playroom. Suffice to say, the difference in sound quality is not subtle, particularly the clarity of the soundstage and the “richness” or fullness, for lack of a better word, of the sound (as opposed to the loud, but “thin” sounding Bose). The overall sound experience does compare favorably with the Ascend Acoustic SE 340 set-up I have in the downstairs living room.

As an aside, I listen mostly via Apple lossless files that I stream to the Denon using the Air Play function. This was all well and good with the old speakers, but with the new Cambridges I could immediately tell that something wasn’t quite right. I suspected it may have been the iTunes sound enhancement settings, so I turned off both the Sound Check and the Sound Enhancer. Turns out that did the trick and the playback sound quality was much better than it had been with them on. Primary point being though, that issue had not been noticeable with the old speakers, but was fairly obvious with the Cambridges, which I believe is a testament to their clarity and detail.

Thanks again for the reviews and discussion in this thread, which led me to them.
post #319 of 384
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Originally Posted by jakeroux View Post

Thanks again for the reviews and discussion in this thread, which led me to them.

Nice review - glad that you like them - have fun and enjoy.
post #320 of 384
Hey Zieg, have you heard the S70's yet?
post #321 of 384
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Hey Zieg, have you heard the S70's yet?

No, not at this time - however, the overall reports I have read are good.
post #322 of 384
Bumping this old thread.....I'm very interested in purchasing these S30's,,,,,and can't decide between them or def tech studio monitor 350's (or 450's)

Would the def techs be an upgrade over these? (price is not an issue)

I would be running these without a sub. Thanks is advance....lots of good info on this thread!
post #323 of 384
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Originally Posted by shishkabab View Post

Bumping this old thread.....I'm very interested in purchasing these S30's,,,,,and can't decide between them or def tech studio monitor 350's (or 450's)

Would the def techs be an upgrade over these? (price is not an issue)

No, the Definitive is not an upgrade over the Cambridge speaker.
post #324 of 384
Anyone know what happened to the SL30? I can't find them for sale anywhere.
post #325 of 384
*Word* was that the SL-30s were a European-only release, with primary difference from the S-30s being the SL-30s' piano black lacquer finish. I know this only from researching when trying to buy them myself here in the US about a month ago when I bought my S-30s (which, by the way, I continue to be thrilled with...)
post #326 of 384
Thanks for clearing that up. I've been absolutely floored by the sound from my S30. I bought them as "computer speakers" amplified with an Indeed Audio T-amp off ebay and it's an incredible system, even near-field. I've been very tempted to snag a pair of S70 towers for my workshop but there's a dearth of impressions for these and the published specs seem a little hopeful to me. I may just get another pair of the S30.
post #327 of 384
Has anyone compared these to the Martin Logan Motion 4's? I am torn between getting 4- S30's and an S50 vs 4 - ML Motion 4's and a Motion 8. I havent been able to find anywhere locally that sells these for me to listen to.
post #328 of 384
thinking about getting a pair of these speakers to try out, but have a couple of questions. sorry if they were already answered, I tried searching the thread with no luck.

has anyone done a comparison to the pioneer bs22 or bs21?

I am currently running an indeed ta2021 T amp, which so far I am very impressed with. I am using a pc for a source with a asus xonar stx sound card. the speakers would be a nearfield setup. both the bs21 and bs22 sound great, snapping an image in front of my face. the 22's seem to have a bit brighter of a tweeter. I am happy with the current setup, but have the bug and curiosity is getting the best of me. any opinions?
post #329 of 384
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Originally Posted by veedo View Post

thinking about getting a pair of these speakers to try out, but have a couple of questions. sorry if they were already answered, I tried searching the thread with no luck.

has anyone done a comparison to the pioneer bs22 or bs21?

I am currently running an indeed ta2021 T amp, which so far I am very impressed with. I am using a pc for a source with a asus xonar stx sound card. the speakers would be a nearfield setup. both the bs21 and bs22 sound great, snapping an image in front of my face. the 22's seem to have a bit brighter of a tweeter. I am happy with the current setup, but have the bug and curiosity is getting the best of me. any opinions?

As far as near-field listening, it is a subjective or preference thing - some people do not prefer them
up close on a desk. Overall I prefer the Cambridge S30 to both series >> the Cambridge has more
detail and definition, and bass that is more tight and controlled
post #330 of 384
cool, thanks for the reply. I am going to give them a go. I ordered them from crutchfield, but they are back ordered for about a week. 220 bucks about the going rate? doesn't seem to be many online dealers for these things. another question, I ordered the black versions, what color is the faceplate, behind the grille? I have seen pictures of silver and black?
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