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post #61 of 358
4/21/11 at 10:16am
Does anyone have a link to a RC-10 FR plot? I'd like to compare it with the S30 plot.
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post #62 of 358
4/21/11 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by yelnatsch517 View Post

Does anyone have a link to a RC-10 FR plot? I'd like to compare it with the S30 plot.

http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/me.../energy_rc_10/
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post #63 of 358
4/21/11 at 11:46am
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http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/me.../energy_rc_10/

My brain is on slow today > It was simple, all I had to do was type
in RC-10 speaker measurements on Google > It has been a rough
week - thanks for helping him.
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post #64 of 358
4/21/11 at 12:08pm
Getting a marantz nr1601 for the bedroom today.was wondering what everyone thinks about matching the s30's to the marantz.I need small speakers for this setup.2 channel no sub.thanks
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post #65 of 358
4/21/11 at 12:17pm
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Getting a marantz nr1601 for the bedroom today.was wondering what everyone thinks about matching the s30's to the marantz.I need small speakers for this setup.2 channel no sub.thanks

I use them with a Marantz receiver - they match well.
There will be no problem driving them.
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post #66 of 358
4/21/11 at 12:17pm
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http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/me.../energy_rc_10/

You have to be a little careful when you compare these plots. First, the Canadian measurements are made in a genuine anechoic chamber, so the bass response below 250 Hz can't be compared with the room measurements in that region for my plots. Second, the horizontal demarcations are 10 dB for the Canadian, and 5 dB for mine. If the former were transferred to my measurement grid, deviations would look about twice as large. In any event, it looks like the two speakers would sound quite different. The rc should sound warmer and more laid back. I haven't heard it, however.
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post #67 of 358
4/21/11 at 12:21pm
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You have to be a little careful when you compare these plots. First, the Canadian measurements are made in a genuine anechoic chamber, so the bass response below 250 Hz can't be compared with the room measurements in that region for my plots. Second, the horizontal demarcations are 10 dB for the Canadian, and 5 dB for mine. If the former were transferred to my measurement grid, deviations would look about twice as large. In any event, it looks like the two speakers would sound quite different. The rc should sound warmer and more laid back. I haven't heard it, however.

Thank you, for the info.
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post #68 of 358
4/21/11 at 12:35pm
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http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/me.../energy_rc_10/

Thanks Curtis. For some reason I missed that link when I googled it.
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post #69 of 358
4/21/11 at 12:54pm
So I'm not going totally insane when I thought the S30's sounded a bit bright, but with a great mid-range that felt a bit recessed when the highs took over on some music (and the bass when near a large surface)?
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post #70 of 358
4/21/11 at 1:36pm
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So I'm not going totally insane when I thought the S30's sounded a bit bright, but with a great mid-range that felt a bit recessed when the highs took over on some music (and the bass when near a large surface)?

Your's and my definition of bright may be different - However, I understand
where you are coming from. If we are lucky, then none of us are going insane.
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post #71 of 358
4/22/11 at 3:19pm
Attachment 209813

Attachment 209814Attachment 209814I finished converting one of the speakers to the new crossover, and compared the sound with the original speaker. There's definitely an improvement, with less forward highs and a cleaner, more open midrange. I've attached measuremets of the before and the after. I hope you can tell which is which. I'll convert the other speaker and take a good comparative listen with my favorite bookshelf speaker to see how good it really is. Back at you early next week.
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post #72 of 358
4/22/11 at 3:22pm
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Attachment 209813

Attachment 209814Attachment 209814I finished converting one of the speakers to the new crossover, and compared the sound with the original speaker. There's definitely an improvement, with less forward highs and a cleaner, more open midrange. I've attached measuremets of the before and the after. I hope you can tell which is which. I'll convert the other speaker and take a good comparative listen with my favorite bookshelf speaker to see how good it really is. Back at you early next week.

I can't seem to get the after plot to show up. I'll try it separately.
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post #73 of 358
4/22/11 at 3:51pm
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I'll convert the other speaker and take a good comparative listen with my favorite bookshelf speaker to see how good it really is. Back at you early next week.

Out of curiosity, what is your favorite bookshelf speaker? You sound like a guy who knows a thing or two about speakers :-).
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post #74 of 358
4/22/11 at 3:51pm
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Thank you Dennis, for your work on the little Beast.
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post #75 of 358
4/22/11 at 4:50pm
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Out of curiosity, what is your favorite bookshelf speaker? You sound like a guy who knows a thing or two about speakers :-).

Hi It's my favorite speaker because I designed it to match my own preferences. You either have to build it yourself or pay a custom outfit to build one. I'm not really recommending it to anyone, but it's the "MB0W1" on my website. http://murphyblaster.com/content.php?f=MBOW1.html

The woofer doesn't cost any more than the one in the Cambridge, but the tweeter probably costs about ten times as much. And there are a bajillion crossover parts in it. So it darn better sound better than the hot rodded Cambridges.
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post #76 of 358
4/25/11 at 12:28am
Since this thread is dwindling down, hope the OP does not mind a slightly off topic post tha tis somewhat relevant.

There's a fair bit of discussion on the RSL sub. They have a free shipping both ways - from them to you, and pick up from you back after the testing if you don't like it. Their guarantee is that their speakers sound better than any other speakers 3 times the price. yes, I know, hype.

But at $250 a piece for their CG4, it would be interesting to see how it compares. RSL does come from a reputable company with a few decades of history. Curious how they would compare.

UL
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post #77 of 358
4/25/11 at 5:13am
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Since this thread is dwindling down, hope the OP does not mind a slightly off topic post tha tis somewhat relevant.

No problem - post what you want. If I were to buy the RSL, then it would
be for demo only - I do not want to just buy something, and then send it
back.

I will be commenting on the modded S30 speaker - it is being shipped back
to me today. Most of my listening is done on more expensive speakers. I do
like having a good budget speaker around.
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post #78 of 358
4/25/11 at 8:11am
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If we are lucky, then none of us are going insane.

Well, all of us already sort of have, I expect.

Interesting discussion, thanks to all for posting.
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post #79 of 358
4/25/11 at 2:16pm
It has been 5 days now and I'm still impressed. Here are some pictures.





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post #80 of 358
4/25/11 at 3:47pm
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Thank you Ster3ohead, for the pictures - I am happy that you are enjoying them.
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post #81 of 358
4/25/11 at 3:53pm
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If we are lucky, then none of us are going insane.

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Well, all of us already sort of have, I expect.

I am just trying not to admit it!
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post #82 of 358
4/27/11 at 11:43pm
Looking forward to your impressions of the modded crossover zieglj01.

I might actually be interested in modding mine as well if the service is available. I really love the voice, design, and size of these speakers and if there's a way to take the sound a step further I'm all ears.
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post #83 of 358
4/28/11 at 4:33am
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Looking forward to your impressions of the modded crossover zieglj01.

I might actually be interested in modding mine as well if the service is available. I really love the voice, design, and size of these speakers and if there's a way to take the sound a step further I'm all ears.

They are being delivered to me today - I will demo them against the
stock version. The parts will not cost much - however, you will need
to find a DIY person to do it for you - if you can not do it yourself.
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post #84 of 358
4/28/11 at 7:35am
Do you think the S30's need a sub for music? I thought they may be fine for music at least on their own if the specs listed by Cambridge are fairly accurate as they seem to go very low for a smaller bookshelf. If you do think they need or recommend a sub would the Cambridge S90 be a good choice as Crutchfield has that at 299? Do you think that would be a better sub for these for music instead of the Emotiva 10 or HSU STF-1 that I often see recommended on these forums and are roughly the same price?

Thanks.

roark
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post #85 of 358
4/28/11 at 7:49am
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Do you think the S30's need a sub for music? I thought they may be fine for music at least on their own if the specs listed by Cambridge are fairly accurate as they seem to go very low for a smaller bookshelf. If you do think they need or recommend a sub would the Cambridge S90 be a good choice as Crutchfield has that at 299? Do you think that would be a better sub for these for music instead of the Emotiva 10 or HSU STF-1 that I often see recommended on these forums and are roughly the same price?

Thanks.

roark
This speaker has good bass - I like bass.
For strong bass material - they will sound better with a sub. The
Cambridge sub looks weak to me - I would look at the Ultra 10
from Emotiva at $299. I will not reccomend a boom boom, home
theater sub with them. With HSU - I would start with the STF-2
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post #86 of 358
4/28/11 at 8:37am
Thanks Jim Z. At the beginning of this thread you mentioned these S30's are now your favorite low budget speaker passing the HTD Level 3. Are those still your 2nd choice? I had never heard of those before but they seem very nice too for only 300. And have you ever heard the HSU bookshelf speakers and if so how would they compare to the S30's?

Thanks.

roark
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post #87 of 358
4/28/11 at 8:57am
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Thanks Jim Z. At the beginning of this thread you mentioned these S30's are now your favorite low budget speaker passing the HTD Level 3. Are those still your 2nd choice? I had never heard of those before but they seem very nice too for only 300. And have you ever heard the HSU bookshelf speakers and if so how would they compare to the S30's?

Thanks.

roark
The Level Three is good for the price - They have more bass level.
However, it is not as tight or focused (clear/clean) as the Cambridge.
The Level Three can not touch the Cambridge in the midrange. And I
predict that there is a frequency dip in the midrange of the HTD. The
tweeter in the HTD is on the polite side. I can not speak for HSU and
they, with all due respect, do not draw my interest. My 2nd favorite
budget speaker is unknown - that is why I bought NHT Classic II and
Focal Chorus 705 V

For one on a real tight budget, Pioneer by Andrew Jones.
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post #88 of 358
4/28/11 at 9:01am
I almost bought the s30's....was eyeing them for a long while. However, i saved up for the Ascend's and havent looked back since. I tried finding them online, and couldn't find the s30's for the life of me about 4 months ago.
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post #89 of 358
4/28/11 at 9:09am
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I almost bought the s30's....was eyeing them for a long while. However, i saved up for the Ascend's and havent looked back since. I tried finding them online, and couldn't find the s30's for the life of me about 4 months ago.
Keep on enjoying them - Cambridge is not for everyone.
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post #90 of 358
4/28/11 at 10:21am
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Looking forward to your impressions of the modded crossover zieglj01.
They are back in East of West and West of East. I have them hooked
up, and put in The Gloria Estefan hit; The Rhythm Is Gonna Get You -
and the first impression is ...........................................................!
There is more to come.
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