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Official Samsung 2011 PNxxD6500 (PNxxD6900 in Canada?) Thread

post #1 of 998
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Just got this tv from Future Shop, only place I could find it around here, good price too, lower than MSRP.

Since I'm in canada, the model has been renamed to PN51D6900, which specs wise is exactly the same as the 6500. Could also be to prevent price match...

Only 2 small differences: The stand is brushed black instead of silver and it come with the QWERTY bluetooth remote. No glass yet but I'll wait till there's a promotion to get them.

All the option of the 6500 are there, I have 10p grayscale and full CMS too.

I'll post some pics of my setup in a couple of days!
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post #2 of 998
Please do! I'm planning on picking one up on the weekend and it's been tricky finding video/info about this set.

Besides the remote (which looks awesome) and the base, is there anything software-wise that's different from the 6500 series? Does it have the browser of the 8k series?
post #3 of 998
I hope the QERTY Remote will work with my PN59D6500 tv; no clue yet since the new models are not even listed on Samsung's site yet >:|

But I'm a patient man, and will wait for them to get off their butts and update the dang site so I can see if that remote is compatible with the tv so I can buy it . That remote looks awesome & an ideal & useful concept too.
post #4 of 998
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Originally Posted by BeerLuver View Post

I hope the QERTY Remote will work with my PN59D6500 tv; no clue yet since the new models are not even listed on Samsung's site yet >:|

But I'm a patient man, and will wait for them to get off their butts and update the dang site so I can see if that remote is compatible with the tv so I can buy it . That remote looks awesome & an ideal & useful concept too.

On my manual it says the QWERTY remote is compatible with the 6500 and up.
post #5 of 998
Sweet ... thanks for the heads up FrancoisC . That remote will make my new tv purchase all the better hehe. That is of course, after they come fix it ... had the same firmware bricking the tv issue as many others . It's barely 10 days old too. Hope they get out here to fix it within a week's time at the most.
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Anyone notice when you get a full black screen the tv pixels seem to power down or something cause the blacks get even darker. Then they pop on again? You can notice it during begin credits and fade outs etc. Anyone know how to fix this?
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No clue on that one Xander.


I'm hoping someone eventually post some picture settings/calibration settings for the PN59D6500 model; or other sizes of that same series .

Or does anyone know of a good resource site that may have that info? Or even the best option for calibrating your tv yourself? A bit new to this area of television features or aspect, so I hope someone is able to share some insight into this stuff
post #8 of 998
Congrats OP. Any buzzing by the way? My 59 is definitely a buzzer and its going back to best buy. I ended up ordering a 7000 to replace it from amazon (ended up being the same price due to a price drop) just waiting for it to come in.

In regards to settings, I found someone's calibration settings in the d7000 thread and used those on my 6500 and was happy with the results.
post #9 of 998
We just got these in at work, and Im seriously considering one. However the 59" we unboxed was DOA.

Trying not to let it discourage me, it happens to a few every year.

Also Ive read the advertised differences, between it and the 8000 but I was hoping to see if someone had compared the actual picture quality between the two.
post #10 of 998
Just got my PN59D6500 a few days ago. It was at the right price point and feature set, especially with the 3D starter kit thrown in for free. Since this set is for watching movies in a blacked-out room, the Real Black Filter on the D7000 was not an important feature for me, and I wasn't sold enough on the local contrast enhancer to pony up for the D8000. 64" would have been nice but just wasn't in the budget.

Coming from an absurdly small (26") LG LCD with horrendously bright blacks, I gotta say that I was blown away by the picture quality on the D6500. I haven't had enough time to really dig into the settings, just put on the Shrek blu-ray that came with the starter kit.

Crosstalk in 3D was minimal to non-existent (to my untrained eye). There was some buzzing that was apparent when the room was silent, but it was masked by any sound coming from my speaker system.

Mounted it on a Chief LST-U thinstall bracket, I keep amazing myself by measuring how far the set sticks out from the wall (just over 2"). It's less deep than a picture frame I have hung on the facing wall.

So far so good, looking forward to seeing some calibration settings come out. Also looking forward to playing with some of the web apps, as the Netflix and YouTube apps were selling points for me.

Would like to thank everyone at AVS for their time and energy putting out all the opinions and information that influenced my buying decision.
post #11 of 998
Congrats FrancoisC.. cant waite to see some pics
and congrats Elan937
post #12 of 998
Gonna be buying the D6900 tomorrow morning. I are super excite! I will post my impressions of it asap. I am in no means a pro calibrator but as an animator I am extremely picky and notice many details which I will be sure to mention if any.

:starts raising the roof:
post #13 of 998
One disappointment to report: I must have missed in the fine print that this TV does not support audio return channel.
Not the end of the world, guess I'll just have to run an audio cable back to the receiver.
post #14 of 998
that is interesting knowledge that the qwerty remote is compatible with the d6500
post #15 of 998
Well I got my 51" 6900 yesterday and I must say so far I am extremely pleased! The first thing I did was put in my Planet Earth blu-Ray's just to see the diff from my old tv. Let's just say my eyes were getting watery. Some may call me an idiot but I also ended up watching 7 hours of hockey last night and well, zero IR. I am trying to play it safe for the first couple of hours.

As for break in slides, can't I just leave the screen wipe on? It's one big ass greyscale that is constantly moving... :/

Also fun fact I was on my ps3 and I accidentally pressed the left button on the qwerty remote and to my amazement I was able to control the PS3. Was a nice little surprise.

Well back to the main discussion PQ. For me the black levels are surprisingly good and the details in shadows in the darker areas really looked great! One thing I also loved was that on my old set I used to be able to see lines of color lets say in a sky instead of white - blu blending in nicely i would be able to see where each tone starts. On the 6900 this was hardly present, hence my satisfaction.

Buzz? No buzz on my tele, I muted TV nothing, i tried putting vol on TV to max and mute sound system nothing.

Another issue I've heard of was brightness pops. Well During the hockey game I saw maybe one or two POPS in brightness but to me it looked like it was caused more by the CBC cameras then the actual TV.

For my setting I am keeping everything at 50-65 marks for now but when I was watching Planet Earth I figured I'd at least try to see how this baby will look like at my optimal settings. I cranked up the cell light to 17 (huge difference in detail there is much more separation from blacks to white and picture looks much more crispy crunch). The colors as always from Samsung looked (oh em gee) especially the greens.

Umm what else can I add... Oh yea reflections, well I started watching it during the brightest point of the day here in MTL and well it did a really good job of saying "oh no you didunt" to them reflections. yes when screen is off you can see but once you started watching TV its all good in da hood. And when I was watching hockey at night, it was beautiful the border of the TV just melted into the background and all I saw was the glorious 51inch screen.

So yes so far after 7.84 hours of use I am extremely happy with this TV and for the price I mean its a great deal. The TV is also extremely extremely nice design wise! The charcoal finish is astounding especially when compared to ALL of the other TV's I've put up and seen LED LCD PLASMA super hd leoled.... The remote while a bit chunky is nice especially with the added PS3 function.

I still havent played with the greyscale options but when I have the time it will be done! And I wasnt expecting the jump from 42-51 to be that drastic but damn was my head hurting after the first hour. It is all better now and I can now enjoy this TV. So to the guy who has an old 42 inch TV and was in the same boat as I If you see a good deal on this with the 3D goggles go for it!

I will be posting more accurate and detailed impressions once I set up everything nicely, and watch Star Trek.

Just thought I'd share!
post #16 of 998
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Originally Posted by matz8916 View Post

Umm what else can I add... Oh yea reflections, well I started watching it during the brightest point of the day here in MTL and well it did a really good job of saying "oh no you didunt" to them reflections. yes when screen is off you can see but once you started watching TV its all good in da hood. And when I was watching hockey at night, it was beautiful the border of the TV just melted into the background and all I saw was the glorious 51inch screen.

Do you think you may be able to post pictures of the TV in a really bright room ? At different angles ? Thx
post #17 of 998
I made a review of the European version (D6900) of this set, if you care to read:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/14508107-post1.html
post #18 of 998
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Originally Posted by Flash3d
I made a review of the European version (D6900) of this set, if you care to read:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/14508107-post1.html
I just purchased this TV and I'm looking forward to bringing it home even more now! Thanks for confirming that I made a good choice!
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Could someone please tell me the difference between the cell setting and contrast setting. For example, if I wanted to play a game on my 360 and I put the contrast on 72 and cell on 18 is this just basically the same as cell on 14 and contrast on around 86 or so. Just want to avoid that Black Ops dark circle on the bottom right of the screen from doing anymore image retention then it has to.

If anyone has any suggestions I'd greatly appreciate it, thank you.
post #20 of 998
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Originally Posted by shrooms911 View Post

Do you think you may be able to post pictures of the TV in a really bright room ? At different angles ? Thx

Ya no problem. i will take em tomorrow before work, if its really sunny.

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Originally Posted by Jigalice View Post

Could someone please tell me the difference between the cell setting and contrast setting. For example, if I wanted to play a game on my 360 and I put the contrast on 72 and cell on 18 is this just basically the same as cell on 14 and contrast on around 86 or so. Just want to avoid that Black Ops dark circle on the bottom right of the screen from doing anymore image retention then it has to.

If anyone has any suggestions I'd greatly appreciate it, thank you.

Well I have my cell brightness at 15 and contrast at around 65 and after playing Gears 3 for over 5 hours straight there was no image retention. I have all those "dynamic" crap stuff off and my pixel shift is on for every 1 minute/4 pixels. I also turned off game mode, so far no problemo. I mean I dont think you should worry bout IR my old 5 year old samsung plasma has never had any IR problems and I used to play MUCH MUCH more back then. This tv does an amazing job at preventing IR. I'd say I guess for the first month or so just keep settings below desired and after that put your settings to what you feel looks best! Enjoy your TV!!
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What exactly does the game mode do on the the 6500 and 6900. Anything?
post #22 of 998
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Originally Posted by matz8916 View Post

Ya no problem. i will take em tomorrow before work, if its really sunny.



Well I have my cell brightness at 15 and contrast at around 65 and after playing Gears 3 for over 5 hours straight there was no image retention. I have all those "dynamic" crap stuff off and my pixel shift is on for every 1 minute/4 pixels. I also turned off game mode, so far no problemo. I mean I dont think you should worry bout IR my old 5 year old samsung plasma has never had any IR problems and I used to play MUCH MUCH more back then. This tv does an amazing job at preventing IR. I'd say I guess for the first month or so just keep settings below desired and after that put your settings to what you feel looks best! Enjoy your TV!!

Thank you for the advice, really appreciate it.
post #23 of 998
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Originally Posted by Vcolassi View Post

What exactly does the game mode do on the the 6500 and 6900. Anything?

It keeps the tv on standard settings and gives you it's own settings as a starting point. Can't remember the exact settings but it's no where close to torch mode and game mode doesn't work on dynamic. I always thought the game mode on televisions was for video lag but I believe the specs on the 6500/6900 is 1 millisecond so you wouldn't even notice a difference anyways.
post #24 of 998
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Originally Posted by Vcolassi View Post

What exactly does the game mode do on the the 6500 and 6900. Anything?

It is meant to reduce input lag on a display by eliminating some picture processing.

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I always thought the game mode on televisions was for video lag but I believe the specs on the 6500/6900 is 1 millisecond so you wouldn't even notice a difference anyways.

The responce time of the display has nothing to do with input lag. Some Samsung LCDs had a 4ms responce time but had over 100ms of game lag.
post #25 of 998
So it's been a couple days with these TV and I must say it has been an amazing purchase! Just watched my first blu-ray on it, Toy Story 3 and wow I have never seen anything so beautiful! Even on lowered settings this tv looks amazing.

As for the advanced tools, what material do you guys suggest I use to start messing with the 10p scale settings?? That is pretty much the only thing I need to change.
post #26 of 998
If any of you guys are interested in doing Input Lag tests, there are directions in the original post here.
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Here are some pics to show reflections i turned my blinds towards the TV so that I get max light facing the TV just for the sake of these pictures. As soon as i turned them away or roughly 30 degrees in the opposite directions the reflections were nearly gone.

Oh yea I also took side shots for the dude who wanted to see the viewing angles.
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post #28 of 998
Here are the rest of the pictures and for the side shots I was angled roughly 15 degrees from the screen and like 1 foot away from it on both sides.
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post #29 of 998
Nice pictures matz8916. I particularly liked the stand.
Thanks for sharing.
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Nice pictures matz8916. I particularly liked the stand.
Thanks for sharing.

lol after the 30 day mark it will be comin off.

:knocks on wood: multiple times!
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