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post #211 of 998
6/14/11 at 10:31am
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Originally Posted by Brake_ View Post

Yep I saw the D550 and the D6500 next to each other on the weekend and the difference is very noticeable. D550 is very reflective, I would not even consider getting it.

so there definitely is a difference in the screen?? glad to hear this . are you planning to get the 6500??
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post #212 of 998
6/14/11 at 10:55am
I can't find anything in product specifications that shows the D6500 has an AR coating the D550 doesn't have. The only difference is 10 point Cal and Samsung Apps. Since D550 can have 10 point cal with a simple hack, the only difference is apps.
I sure would like to see some evidence the D6500 has a coating the D550 does not. Otherwise it's hard to justify the $400-$500 extra for some silly apps.
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post #213 of 998
6/14/11 at 11:06am
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I can't find anything in product specifications that shows the D6500 has an AR coating the D550 doesn't have. The only difference is 10 point Cal and Samsung Apps. Since D550 can have 10 point cal with a simple hack, the only difference is apps.
I sure would like to see some evidence the D6500 has a coating the D550 does not. Otherwise it's hard to justify the $400-$500 extra for some silly apps.

i'm only seeing a $229 difference in price. i haven't seen side-by-side pics yet, but i will be getting my D6500 on friday and will post pics with a DSLR of the glare. i'm hoping it's better than the D550.
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post #214 of 998
6/14/11 at 11:08am
d6500 also has the built in wireless, if thats something you will want. otherwise if its the same screen as the d550, then better deal for the d550
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post #215 of 998
6/14/11 at 11:46am
i think it has built in wi-fi for the smart apps only, correct? because the D550 doesn't have the smart tv capabilities and therefore wouldn't need/use the wi-fi (unless u can use it to network to ur pc maybe?)
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post #216 of 998
6/14/11 at 11:53am
In canada we can only get the D6900 which is sold for the D7000 price. The D550 is considerably cheaper.
$400 between the two for 51", $500 difference for the 59". It's like a 33% increase!
It's simply not worth it for some wifi apps... but if there is an added glare filter that certainly should be noted somewhere.
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post #217 of 998
6/14/11 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by obveron View Post

In canada we can only get the D6900 which is sold for the D7000 price. The D550 is considerably cheaper.
$400 between the two for 51", $500 difference for the 59". It's like a 33% increase!
It's simply not worth it for some wifi apps... but if there is an added glare filter that certainly should be noted somewhere.

maybe you should check out an online retailer that does international shipping (i.e. paul's tv). i don't have experience with them, but they are reputable and offer more models than you're offered at a b&m store. i'm not sure how shipping and what kind of taxes you pay on a tv either. just a thought.
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post #218 of 998
6/14/11 at 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by 07pilot4me View Post

so there definitely is a difference in the screen?? glad to hear this . are you planning to get the 6500??

Well the panel is the same, just the D550 reflects a lot more than the D6500.

I was leaning towards the 6500 (6900 in AUS), I was thinking about the 550 but after comparing the two I will not be getting the 550 any more.

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I can't find anything in product specifications that shows the D6500 has an AR coating the D550 doesn't have. The only difference is 10 point Cal and Samsung Apps. Since D550 can have 10 point cal with a simple hack, the only difference is apps.
I sure would like to see some evidence the D6500 has a coating the D550 does not. Otherwise it's hard to justify the $400-$500 extra for some silly apps.

You really need to get into a store and check them both out. For me, the difference was like night and day for the glare between the two.

Black levels seemed fine on both so I can't justify the jump in price for marginally better blacks
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post #219 of 998
6/14/11 at 7:07pm
any chance you got to see a d7000? , if so how was glare between d6500 and d7000?

looks like you got to check out an st30 too. please compare the glare between the d6500, st30, d8000 (would be same glare as d7000 because of RBF)




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Originally Posted by Brake_ View Post

Well the panel is the same, just the D550 reflects a lot more than the D6500.

I was leaning towards the 6500 (6900 in AUS), I was thinking about the 550 but after comparing the two I will not be getting the 550 any more.



You really need to get into a store and check them both out. For me, the difference was like night and day for the glare between the two.

Black levels seemed fine on both so I can't justify the jump in price for marginally better blacks
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post #220 of 998
6/14/11 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by 07pilot4me View Post

any chance you got to see a d7000? , if so how was glare between d6500 and d7000?

looks like you got to check out an st30 too. please compare the glare between the d6500, st30, d8000 (would be same glare as d7000 because of RBF)

Nope, we don't get the 7 Series in Australia, just the 6 and the 8. I didn't get to compare the 6 and the 8 side by side either.
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post #221 of 998
6/14/11 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by Brake_ View Post

Nope, we don't get the 7 Series in Australia, just the 6 and the 8. I didn't get to compare the 6 and the 8 side by side either.

did you get to compare with the st30?
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post #222 of 998
6/14/11 at 9:07pm
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Originally Posted by 07pilot4me View Post

did you get to compare with the st30?

Not side by side but yeah, the ST30 actually looked better IMO, the SAmmy had some disturbing image issues that could have been related to settings used or cables used, for details read my post in the "samsung 2011 Plasma Lineup" thread on page 8 post #3381
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post #223 of 998
6/16/11 at 4:59am
I ordered this baby yesterday, post up your calibrated settings folks!
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post #224 of 998
6/16/11 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by Brake_ View Post

Not side by side but yeah, the ST30 actually looked better IMO, the SAmmy had some disturbing image issues that could have been related to settings used or cables used, for details read my post in the "samsung 2011 Plasma Lineup" thread on page 8 post #3381

that definitely sounds like a defect in the panel or the wiring somewhere. you were also comparing the D8000 to the ST30. all of the reviews and word of mouth claims the D8000 to be nothing short of stellar whereas the ST30 is a solid performer and a good value but nowhere near the picture quality as the D8000. also, the D8000 is a direct competitor to the VT30 which is 2 steps up from the ST30. this is one of those chance conditioning cases. go check out the sammy's at another retailer/location. also, check the settings on the tv in the store if u can. they're almost never set up for optimal viewing. don't let a bad first experience swing your choice in tv so soon. research, research, research is what i do.
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post #225 of 998
6/16/11 at 11:05am
Does anyone know if there is a difference in the firmware between the 6900 and 6500 panels in Canada? I just bought the PN59D6900 from FS and got the Skype camera discounted as part of the package. On the Samsung Canada site the skype camera is said to work work with the 6500 panel, but no mention of the 6900. I called Samsung support and the person I spoke with was less than useless. From what I've read here they are the same panel with the exception of the stand and remote (love the remote).
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post #226 of 998
6/16/11 at 11:31am
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Originally Posted by camelean View Post
Does anyone know if there is a difference in the firmware between the 6900 and 6500 panels in Canada? I just bought the PN59D6900 from FS and got the Skype camera discounted as part of the package. On the Samsung Canada site the skype camera is said to work work with the 6500 panel, but no mention of the 6900. I called Samsung support and the person I spoke with was less than useless. From what I've read here they are the same panel with the exception of the stand and remote (love the remote).
that's interesting. i thought the skype was only available on the D8000....i don't see it listed on the D6500 page (US). do you have a link to the D6500 page where you saw it compatible?
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post #227 of 998
6/16/11 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by kheovnien View Post
that's interesting. i thought the skype was only available on the D8000....i don't see it listed on the D6500 page (US). do you have a link to the D6500 page where you saw it compatible?
Can't post links yet...need 2 more posts. If you go to samsung dot ca you should be able to find the info
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post #228 of 998
6/16/11 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by camelean View Post
Does anyone know if there is a difference in the firmware between the 6900 and 6500 panels in Canada? I just bought the PN59D6900 from FS and got the Skype camera discounted as part of the package. On the Samsung Canada site the skype camera is said to work work with the 6500 panel, but no mention of the 6900. I called Samsung support and the person I spoke with was less than useless. From what I've read here they are the same panel with the exception of the stand and remote (love the remote).
on samsung dot ca
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post #229 of 998
6/16/11 at 11:46am
still not seeing skype on the D6500....
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post #230 of 998
6/16/11 at 11:56am
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Originally Posted by kheovnien View Post
still not seeing skype on the D6500....
STC1100 - compatible panels
http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/t...tab=compatible

PN59D6500 Compatible Devices
http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/t...ab=accessories
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post #231 of 998
6/16/11 at 6:56pm
Well, I've had this set (PN59D6500) for about a month now and I can totally recommend avoiding this TV like the plague.

The brightness fluctuations/pops/flickering... whatever the hell you want to call it are totally unacceptable. Plasmas have been around long enough that this kind of thing should not be happening. Samsung, you've totally blown it.

Very, very disappointed.

I can't believe this TV came highly recommended by a Kuro owner.
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post #232 of 998
6/17/11 at 9:14am
d6500 on the way

can i ask you folks how you have your A/V components hooked up??

for example Reciever ---->HDMI---->TV----->HDMI---->VIP 722 etc etc

i have:
Samsung d6500
Sony Blu Ray player S570
DISH VIP 722K sattelite box
onkyo SR605 receiver

also posting this on Samsung plasma thread, since this thread seems to have less visitors
thanks!!!
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post #233 of 998
6/17/11 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by hockeynut View Post
Well, I've had this set (PN59D6500) for about a month now and I can totally recommend avoiding this TV like the plague.

The brightness fluctuations/pops/flickering... whatever the hell you want to call it are totally unacceptable. Plasmas have been around long enough that this kind of thing should not be happening. Samsung, you've totally blown it.

Very, very disappointed.

I can't believe this TV came highly recommended by a Kuro owner.

I'm passing on D7000 due to screen peel, and the above makes me hesitate on D6500. Based on forum comments, I think FBr is worse on D6500/7000 than on ST30 (but better than GT30).

So i'm back to considering ST30 again...need to try to see these FBr issues myself in person at store I guess...frustrating
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post #234 of 998
6/17/11 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by hockeynut View Post

Well, I've had this set (PN59D6500) for about a month now and I can totally recommend avoiding this TV like the plague.

The brightness fluctuations/pops/flickering... whatever the hell you want to call it are totally unacceptable. Plasmas have been around long enough that this kind of thing should not be happening. Samsung, you've totally blown it.

Very, very disappointed.

I can't believe this TV came highly recommended by a Kuro owner.

You must have a bad tv....i watch a ton of hockey....no fluctuations here. Picture is great for me.
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post #235 of 998
6/18/11 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by kheovnien View Post


that definitely sounds like a defect in the panel or the wiring somewhere. you were also comparing the D8000 to the ST30. all of the reviews and word of mouth claims the D8000 to be nothing short of stellar whereas the ST30 is a solid performer and a good value but nowhere near the picture quality as the D8000. also, the D8000 is a direct competitor to the VT30 which is 2 steps up from the ST30. this is one of those chance conditioning cases. go check out the sammy's at another retailer/location. also, check the settings on the tv in the store if u can. they're almost never set up for optimal viewing. don't let a bad first experience swing your choice in tv so soon. research, research, research is what i do.

Umm the plasmas a very very close from the st to vt to 6500 to 8000. Not like LCD where you get huge differences because of local dimming etc.. Minor picture improvements between all the panny and samsung plasmas. Basically the 8000 has a real black filter and some mysterious dimming feature if it exists over the 6500.
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post #236 of 998
6/18/11 at 6:16pm
Just picked up my 59d6500 today. Was gonna go with the 64d550 but the ol lady didn't let me spend the xtra 500 for the warranty (4yr) and with this unit I had enough for it and the warranty. Anyone have any good Cali for gaming and movies? What page could I find it on?
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post #237 of 998
6/18/11 at 10:18pm
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Originally Posted by Blwn281 View Post

Just picked up my 59d6500 today. Was gonna go with the 64d550 but the ol lady didn't let me spend the xtra 500 for the warranty (4yr) and with this unit I had enough for it and the warranty. Anyone have any good Cali for gaming and movies? What page could I find it on?

try the D7000/D8000 settings. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1333561) i'm currently using LarryInRI's settings and they're pretty accurate. i came from a A750 LCD so it's a little dim to me (watched a baseball game today) but the color's are natural looking and the clarity is good.

as for reflections i can say that if you have a direct light source in direct view of the tv then you'll see it during dark/black scenes, but if the lighting is off angle to the side it really doesn't show up at all. even in direct line with a lamp i can't see any reflection during lighter/colored scenes. seems to be a little better than my A750 LCD which had a clear panel.
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post #238 of 998
6/18/11 at 10:55pm
I'll try that out. Hopefully this tv turns around cause right now not nearly as impressed as I was with the d550.
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post #239 of 998
6/19/11 at 1:26am
Looks quite a bit better. Well see though still haven't tested it to it's fullest. Don't know if I'm a fan of the anti reflective film heard lots of problems about it and think it actually takes away from the blacks.
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post #240 of 998
6/19/11 at 1:27am
At one point (playing assassins creed) it went bright dark bright dark bright dark about 3-4 times. Almost like it was flashing. I had all the Eco settings off. Amy ideas?
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