Official Samsung 2011 PNxxD6500 (PNxxD6900 in Canada?) Thread - Page 20

you're most likely not receiving a 24 fps signal. are you in movie mode? just put in a blu ray with 24 fps enabled on the blu ray player, then put your tv in movie mode. since you have directv what i recommend is if you're watching something with static image/bars (ESPN) then instead of changing the channel every 10 minutes, just hit the guide button to change the image showed on the bottom of the screen to the blue menu for 10-20 seconds. that way the audio won't change and you can still see a little of the image. kinda annoying at first but you won't have to do this after break-in.

lisbon - cant answer the 24p question - yet - but maybe soon.. if the panel is handy, can you measure it and see what the A and B dimensions are that jeffchr is asking for -



its the last piece of my puzzle to figure out if I get the 59d6500 or 55gt30

Hmm, I'll check again when I get home tonight. I am fairly certain I turned the feature on on the Blu Ray player, then had it in Movie mode on the TV.

I'll check again.

Thanks on the direct TV Advice. Trying to keep the wife and kids from leaving Nick Jr. on all day while I'm at work.

Hey Guys,

Just recently got the 6500 and loving it. My only concern is that Ill mainly be using it to watch my blurays and im worried about uneven wearing due to the black bars (2:35.1). Any advice on how to avoid this? and for the settings for pixel shift does it make a difference if i switched it from 4 mins to a lower setting?

Thanks!
-Kevin

Have you gone through the initial break in period of around 100 hours? Most people suggest you avoid black bars and a very high brightness for the first 100 hours. You can do this by stretching the image on your screen so that the image takes up the entire screen thus removing the bars. Setting the pixel shift to a lower setting won't hurt you at all however I think it is overkill. Many people disable pixel shift all together after the first 100 hours and see little to no IR.

Yes I have gone thru the first 100 hours I guess ill leave the pixel shift at 4. So after that breakin period would you say I should be fine with the black bars?

Why not leave pixel shift on period? If I understand correctly the whole image shift 4 pixels sideways and upwards. There is no way anyone could visibly see the shift. Four pixels remember. That is a tiny amount.

I mean like theres an option to change the interval it shifts it. Would playing that white image in the settings help reduce uneven wearing due to the black bars?

its the last piece of my puzzle to figure out if I get the 59d6500 or 55gt30

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100% get the bigger samsung. Get the 59d7000 also. I had both and the d7000 looks better. Trust me 59", even fairly close, can start to look small.

Yes you should be fine with black bars as long as you aren't watching things with black bars 100% of the time.


Because the setting I see most people recommend is "screen fit" which does not allow pixel shift to remain enabled.

Ok everyone, I've created the page to voice our complaints and hopefully have our cries heard and remedied by Samsung!

Here is the link:

Samsung Fluctuating Brightness Facebook Page

Please go there, click on "Like", and then follow the instructions under "Info". Please post your experience with the fluctuating brightness on what wall, and then follow the steps to report the issue with Samsung.

Hopefully Samsung will follow Panasonic's example and fix our TVs like Panasonic fixed their followers' TVs!

I'm also starting a website to voice this issue as well, to maximize the reach of our issue, to hopefully gain the notice and remedy of Samsung. Stay tuned!


Here's an animation I made of the issue, for those unable to see the issue:

http://i.imgur.com/NLTgg.gif

lol, nice animation page coldblackice. Those girls over or under 18? Cant tell anymore.

if that's what fluctuating brightness looks like i would return the set instantly for an exchange. that's not a small defect: that completely ruins any viewing experience.

The animation is exagerated. The flashes are typically not that close together, nor frequent. But regardless, it's still "not a small defect". It definitely ruins viewing experiences, quickly jarring you out of the flow of what you're watching.

I watched The Adjustment Bureau the other day and the brightness fluctuated like that about 4-5 times the entire movie. It isn't as bad as that animation however it is still damn annoying. Still no fluctuating brightness on content watched off a USB stick though. Has anyone else been testing that out?

Man, after having this thing on for a night or two, it looks pretty good for not broken in, but MAN is it dark.

I was watching a LCD for 5 years, so I'm sure a lot of it just my eyes adjusting to how inky the blacks go, but will it lighten some after break in? I set the TV on one of the 4 settings recommended in the 7000/8000 calibration thread.

Should I put it back on the default movie mode for now?

Thew wife is complaining about how dark it is.

Plug in the settings in my post on page 19. It brightens up your picture a lot and gives you pure whites. Just try it.

Thanks, I'll try them tonight.



Should I worry about it causing burn in since I'm still within the break in period?

It will only increase your chance of burn in if you leave static images on the screen for any given period of time. I suggest you don't watch stuff with black bars (zoom the image), change the channel every so often if watching content with logos, tickers, etc.. and don't leave the tv on unattended. You should be fine if you keep the image moving higher brightness settings or not.

Just returned my 52le830 Sharp TV for this one, i got convinced to NOT buy a Plasma (which was my initial choice) but i shouldn't have listen to people and stick with my original choice.

I'm getting it this week, it was b/o so i'll have to wait a bit.

Question :

- Any buzzing ?

- How is the motion ? I really hated the "ghosting" effect on the Sharp, i want a fluid TV, hope this Samsung is the right choice (previous tv is the Samsung LNT4065F which i still love)

Most of us have reported a slight buzzing which cannot be heard past 3-4 feet. As for the motion, smooth as silk!

What about the flickering thing... is this a problem that affect all TVs ? Or maybe i could go for another set (Maybe LG?)

Panasonics have something similar called "Fluctuating Brightness", or FBr. If you live in the US, there is a fix being implemented by Panny techs via an SD card with a EEPROM update. They do also issue 3rd party Panny reps to replace current A-Boards with preloaded EEPROM ones.

You can have this arranged by calling the concierge dept. @ 1-800-973-4390.

I went through all this trouble to find out because my Samsung had brightness pops and there is no light at the end of the tunnel yet. I wanted something that is 100% operational in a short window. Now if I have FBr I can call and have it fixed within 2 weeks no matter what. Win/win.

Currently I am running the prep slides for 100 hours until Saturday morning on my 60" ST30 (had 59" D6500). Then I will plug in the D-Nice calibration settings to get the most optimal/accurate picture possible without actually paying for an ISF calibration.

I would recommend this route if the brightness pops are too much of an issue with you. I could have had my D6500 replaced and probably would have if the Sammy had been responsive during my return window at Amazon. And I did tell him the final date of my return window before and after the pops problem was verified. Fortunately, Amazon was nice enough to extend the return deadline.

So far I seem like I am on the right course. Even if you get a D6500 without brightness pops, there have been multiple accounts of the pops coming in after hundreds of hours of use. All reports of the EEPROM update through Panasonic have been extremely positive.

Good luck!

My PN59D6500 is being picked up tomorrow for return by Pilot. I really liked the tv other than the brightness pop, which I decided I just couldn't live with. I had talked myself into just keeping it a few times but ultimately decided to return it for a refund and make the switch to a Panasonic.

I am coming up on my return period in about a week or so. I have to make a final decision on if I will keep these sets or go with the Panny. Like you, I loved these sets except for the brightness pops which I am not certain I want to deal with long term. Does the Panny have any other issues besides the fluctuating brightness and butt ugly bezel?

so you dislike the brightness pops but will be happy with fluctuating brightness? there are also gamma accuracy issues with some panasonics along with the ugly bezel.

Supposedly there is a firmware fix for the fluctuating brightness on the Panny. There is no such word on a fix for the pops on the Sammy. I have not heard of this gamma accuracy issue on the Panny. I will certainly look into that.

I'm getting a 60 inch GT30, which imo has a nice bezel design. It looks way better than the ST30. The fluctuating brightness is something that may bother me, but at least I know I can have a tech come out and install the firmware fix if I need it. The gamma thing is something I doubt will bother me all that much. I'm sure with tweaking and/or calibration, I would be able to get it to be more than passable.

I've put about 100 hours on my 6900 plasma, and have had no problems. I have watched whatever I wanted, without being cautious about bars, etc.. I am getting the set calibrated next week. I love it! I continue to be disappointed with Samsung about this set not having the Web Browser.

100% get the bigger samsung. Get the 59d7000 also. I had both and the d7000 looks better. Trust me 59", even fairly close, can start to look small.[/quote]

What do you feel makes the D7000 look better than the D6500? The specs are basically the same, but the 7000 adds the extra Real Black Filter. I think I would prefer a bit of a glossier look without the extra filter, so would lean toward the 6500. Also better price. But if you think 7000 looks better, please explain why.