Official Samsung 2011 PNxxD6500 (PNxxD6900 in Canada?) Thread - Page 25

Due in the 25th from Amazon w/6500 BR player.

Do you guys use 'Game Mode' when playing games?
I played MW3 on PS3 which requires very fast response times but even so I don't seem to notice a difference when I switch to Game Mode. Can't find anyone discussing this.

Rec'd this am,took out of box,hooked up,turned on,reset cell to 17,contrast to 75.All else box settings-no hum,brightness flicker on hockey which completely gone by end of game.July build,N202.More to follow.

I've been following this thread closely since I am considering a purchase of this set. I have a couple of questions that feature prominently in my mind. The foremost concern I have is the brightness level. Never having owned a plasma I am wondering how much ambient light does there need to be in a room to have a detrimental affect on the plasmas picture quality. I watch TV only during the evenings and have the family room lit with only a lamp or two, both with only moderate light output. Another thing I worry about is wether the bright and crisp image of an LED would be preferred over the better blacks and contrast of the Plasma. I know this comes down to personal preference but I was hoping to hear from someone maybe who switched from LCD/LED to a plasma and what their thoughts have been. Thanks in advance.

ALL Plasmas will buzz. Now admittedly, some will be louder than others, and the frequency will vary, but they all do it. Do you have any hard surfaces behind the tv or around your viewing area(hard like glass, ie windows, picture frames, etc)?

I had a framed poster behind my viewing area and it turned out the glass was reflecting tons of sound right at my head. I moved the poster, and the buzz decreased noticeably. (still there, just not so obnoxious)



When you say slides, are you talking about the build in scrolling bar thing? That should help, but the amount of time it will take is extremely dependent on how long that logo got burned in.

Which logo is it? How long/often do you have that channel on?

The BEST way to get rid of burn in is to get an image of whatever is causing the burn-in, invert the colors, and then let that sit on screen alternating between that and color slides. It ages the pixels the opposite of whatever caused the burn in.

My PN51D6500 has 60-70% less reflection than my PN51D450,of which I was really hoping for.I have 2 lamps-1 with a 75w the other w/40w.If I look hard for them in the screen I can see them,not a distraction whereas my other set would have 2/3 the panel wiped out.Dont need to draw my window drapes anymore.As far as crisp-the colors are beautiful and pic is plenty bright as compared to my last LCD.It depends on the individual and what he wants to see in a tv.

Thanks fo the reply tripod39! That was precisely what I was hoping to hear. I'm upgrading from a 5 year old LCD so the improvement in picture quality should be substantial regardless of the technology. I'm especially happy to hear how far they've come in reducing reflections. The other model I was considering, especially since they are on sale for $850 here in Canada, is the Panasonic ST30. Is there anyone who has done some side by side comparisons. Any thoughts on how they differ, or on which set performs better. Im really only concerned about 2d picture quality and none of the other extras/styling etc.

Here is a good comparison.

http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...TC-P50ST30.htm

Slight pq advantage to the samsung. Aesthetically the samsung is a big winner. I'm considering an ST30 or a D6500 myself. There is no way I would pay cdn msrp ($1399 for a 51" D6500) That's insane especially when the ST30 can be had for around $850 as u said. Bring the D6500 down to 1k and it's a harder decision.

Any issues with the D6500?

Is brightness pop still an issue on new sets? Can it be fixed?
I read that some screens crack!! That makes me nervous but I'm hoping that's rare and it's been fixed.
Anything other issues we should be aware of with the D6500?

Thanks apom! I agree with you on the pricing. Also that site you linked me to was excellent. One of the best i've seen for tv reviews. According to the site all of their reviews are unbiased and not at all based on advertising associations.
I also saw Consumer Reports reviews of both sets and they pretty much came to a similar conclusion.
This will be a hard decision if the Samsung comes down in price in the next few weeks. Otherwise the Panasonic may get the edge.

Gents,

Just received this unit yesterday from Amazon delivered to me in smooth process to my home in MA.

I too looked at 2 Panny models the st30 and the gt30. Thanks to the bundle I got-2 pairs of glasses, a 3D blue-ray player and starter kit- all for the price of the TV, my decision was easy.

apon: my cost was at the price point you cited with no tax and free delivery.

The PQ is great after a few tweaks away from "standard" picture default setting.

Good luck with your shopping decision.

PS: I am replacing a 9 year old Sony 34XBR800 with some PQ issues. Anyone interested in this free tv pm me please.

Congratulation tomtv. That is a heck of a deal! I'm going tomorrow to do some side by side comparisons of the Samsungs and Panasonics. Will give an update tomorrow.

What was your build date? Mine was july.Surprised it wasn't newer from amazon.

My build date is MAY. I haven't read all the posts on the unit. I hope it's not a problem. The unit shipped from a facility outside of Harrisburg, PA.
I'll check for updates once I get my USB Wi-Fi adapter later this week.

I did receive my 3D glasses late yesterday. I'm only able to view the upscale from 2D to 3D. It's pretty effective adding depth to the image but viewing through the glasses renders everything much darker.

My understanding is that Amazon is extending their returns through the end on Jan for Holiday shoppers.

No problem!

For the record the samsung has been around $999 before and with boxing day around the corner I'm sure we will see many more deals. Then there will be super bowl and inventory clear out sales as well.

I am interested to hear some feedback on this myself. I usually put it on game mode to play MW3, Battlefield 3 & such. I usually do it for the hell of it, but not sure i seen a difference with it on or off.

I ended up buying the 6500. I ended up getting it for 999 with megamind pack. Needless to say going from a 6 year old 40inch LCD to a 51 inch plasma made a real impact. I calibrated the set using the settings on the UK website HDTV Test and they are quite nice. Only watched a couple of hours but when I put the football game on last night I was greeted with some beautiful colors. The picture was beautiful.

VCOLASSI -- as to your gaming question. On the same website mentioned above he claims that if you use the first HDTV input on the tv and put it to PC mode you get 16ms vs 35ms on the other inputs. Pretty impressive difference. I have a ps3 but have yet this.

Can you elaborate what you mean by "invert the colors" to remove image retention? As a 7 month owner of the D6900 (D6500 in US), I finally got my first image retention in the form of a television logo. To those in Canada, I got the dreaded "Global" logo stuck in the bottom right side of the TV. I've been running the PS3 music player displaying full screen colorful graphics and after 2 hours, there is somewhat of an improvement but the logo is still there. I didn't think image retention would still be an issue for Plasmas in 2011. It completely ruins the free-from-worry feeling you should get when you watch television. Now I am going to be worrying about when the girlfriend would be watching logo-enriched television when I am not home.

In addition to the rising blacks the D6500 and D6900 are experiencing at an accelerated level (i.e. I noticed my blacks have terrible shadow detail especially in the opening sequence in Harry Potter - Deathly Hallows Part 1 where Snape is flying to the mansion), I'm beginning to think I should've have just went with LCD. Good thing the TV is still under warranty until next May - right when the 2012 models come out

Edit: after 24 hours of running the anti-burn in slides, a 70% improvement was achieved at removing the burnt in logo. Will go for another 24 hours to try to remove the remaining 30%. Clearly this wasn't ghosting but burn-in. I am not too happy about the TV as a result. Watching network TV news falls within reasonable guidelines for TV viewing and no burn in of a network logo should be to this extent. Note that my contrast was high (at 95) and my cell light was set at 20 before the burn in (vis-a-vis Torch mode). This probably what induced it. For new D6500 (D6900) owners, set your contrast, brightness, and cell light back.

Just picked up a PN51D6500 last night! So far I like it much better than the Panny 46" ST30 I had, but returned.

I've got firmware 1013, do I dare update it?

When I say inverted image, I mean what you need is essentially a picture with a black screen and the logo and then invert the colors. The whole idea is essentially to age the rest of the pixels to match.

I made this quickly:



It was hard to find a solid black screen with the logo still on it, so I found one with black on MOST of the screen and the logo, and blacked the rest out, but it is possible I missed some small details.

Anyways, if you take that image, and throw it up on your tv in between your standard colored break in slides, it should greatly reduce the burn in quite quickly.

I would definitely also recommend that if you are going to use my image, you check and make sure the logo is in the right place or at least within a pixel or two.

Ideally, what you would really want to do is use that image to generate a couple different levels of Red, Green and Blue variations with the inverted watermark, and then let those run.

i have a question for people with this tv i only seen one post mention what i noticed on my 51 inch 6900

when i came out the setup the picture was super dim (is this how it was for everyone) or is their something wrong with mine

ive turned up the cell light to 20 and even tried messing with the contrast and brightness and i cant get it to look right looks dingy ... however im no expert at adjusting tvs

oh i tried some of the calibrations people posted but they look wigity wack

ive also tried out a spears and munsil calibration disc i borrowed but i cant even see most of the 17 grey boxes in the contrast setting no matter what i do i can only see 3

and this is my second plasma so i am used to plasma i got it looking ok now but im second guessing it

im mainly curious if they come out of the box really dim like if its normal in which case i might just need a pro calibration

Thank you very much RandomName7 for taking the time to create the inverted image. Before I test your image, I can say with confidence that about 80% of the burn in is gone using the PS3 music player. It's not nearly enough of course as I can still see the logo at specific levels of white. I will give your inverted image a try and check-in with a progress update in the near future. Thanks again for doing this. Much appreciated.

Alternatives to having the "Geek" squad or a facsimile calibrate a tv.Of the many plasma's Ive had I feel I may have to do it to this one.Not as good a pic as my D450. --TV solved problem by itself as I was watching a western 2 nites ago.Have great pic now.

are you looking for an LCD? if so, this is the wrong section. If you're looking for a plasma then this is the correct one http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-PN59D6...2850437&sr=8-1

well look at that, 4 inches bigger, superior screen uniformity and motion AND $140 cheaper.

I just listed the QWERTY remote on ebay, see http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250945774890. It came with my UN60D8000 but I'm not going to use it.

Just upgraded to a 59D6500 from another Samsung 2009 plasma. I wall mounted it in the same spot where I had the previous one. However with the 6500 I can hear the infamous "buzzing" noise, something that did not happen with my last plasma. The catch is that the buzzing is only audible when at eye level and directly in front of the set (but can be heard up to 15 ft away). I'm guessing that the reason the "buzz" is bouncing off the wall. Just curious has anyone else experienced this when wall mounting? Like I said it didn't happen with my 09 model so I'm not sure if it's a manufacturer problem.

what is internet speed I need to carry it.Dont have enough,buffers,than after 30 sec it tells me I need higher speed.Any suggestions?

For my husband's X-mas gift this year I opted to upgrade our TV from our Samsung 46" DLP, which has been declining in reliability of late (shutting off for no apparent reason plus the fan is distractingly loud during use) to the 59" 6500. I'd originally planned on going with an LED unit, based on my initial non-forum research and also my dislike for glossy displays due to reflectivity, then switched to deciding on a plasma display since I understand the reflectivity issues have improved via AR coatings and such (again, non-forum research).

Upon finding this forum I was able to narrow my choices down to the Samsung displays, based on value for purchase price and my past experiences with Samsung electronic/tech products.

I'd pretty much decided on the 7000 series but my ongoing research indicated the main differences between the 6500 & 7000 series were the contrast ratio and Real Black Filter. Did that warrant a nearly $ 500.00 price difference? Since the contrast ratio on the soon-to-be-replaced 4663 was 1500:1, would DH and I notice the difference between 5M:1 (6500) vs 15M:1 (7000)? And since we're "blessed" with a northern exposure in our TV room, would we truly benefit with the RBF?

After much deliberation, and vacillating back and forth, and finally making the dreaded visit to BB to touchy-feely (and, rats, they didn't have the 6500 on display although the tag was there), we took delivery on the 6500 on the 1st.

I'm pleased to report a 9/30/2011 build date and current firmware out of the box. OMG, the picture is stunning! I really doubt that DH and I would have noticed the additional 10M:1 contrast offered on the 7000. The reflectivity concern has not been a problem at all, and I'm particularly fussy about such things. We have two lamps (one of each side of the sofa) that if you look for them in the display you can find them but they really recede into nothingness even with a lot of black displaying.

While awaiting receipt (from Vann's), I downloaded and burned the break-in slides as indicated on the Master Burn-In/IR/Break In Thread (thank you Evangelo2) and have been running them when not actively watching the set since we powered it up 64 hours ago.

I have been doing further research into audio options and plan to pull the trigger on getting a Sony CT150 soundbar to replace our Samsung surround sound DVD player system (thanks to Davyo's recommendations/reviews). I also await our Panasonic 3D BD Player (sh-h-h-h, it's still a surprise, along with Avatar in 3D) to go with the 3D starter pack (also a surprise) that will be under the Christmas tree.

Oh, no buzzing noticed, that's zero, nada, zilch...which is a huge departure from our noisy DLP unit, and no pixel issues, nor does it seem to run warm (especially when one considers it has been running 64 hours straight).

Thanks to everyone who participates in this forum with their insights, opinions, reviews, etc. Your choice to share made my decisions a lot easier (although they are never easy).

Question: I wanted to wait ~30 days before wall mounting the PDP, just make sure all seems to be OK, but wondered if there would be an increase in heat retention due to the lack of truly clear ventilation. Heat build-up=lower lifespan in my book. I don't find the stand to be objectionable but I did want to top-mount the soundbar (which I guess I could still do if I spring for a soundbar mount...assuming it's viable with the 6500).

DH is thrilled...so far, more thrills to come

Fry's has the 59" for $1399 and the 51" for $999.

Any one have any insight as to the efficacy of the AR filter of the D6500 relative to the C7000?

Samsung informed me a minimum of 5.0.