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post #121 of 373
Has anyone gotten this feature to work?
post #122 of 373
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Originally Posted by Laughing Buddha View Post

I've done an input lag test on the VIZIO E3D420VX...


Benchmark: No input lag
This is what the lag test produced on my old CRT television. As the picture illustrates the input lag is almost non existent.





Input lag on the Vizio was locked at 50ms.
Note: my laptop was connected via HDMI and set to output @ 1280x720 which is not the native resolution of this television so these results might be improved with a 1920x1080 source.

The vizio was setup as follows...
Picture: Game/More/Advanced Picture: All turned OFF

Settings/Game Mode: ON

Something worth noting: If you are experiencing lag of upwards of 150 ms while gaming, (the controls will feel VERY floaty, easily noticeable if FPS's or fighting games) try turning the Settings/Game Mode: to OFF then turn Game Mode back ON. I was experiencing lag for about a week and was ready to give up on the TV... Then I decided to try this and it worked like a charm.

Games that I've played in 3D are:
Xbox:
COD:BO

PS3:
Killzone 3 (demo)
Motorstorm: Apocalypse (demo)
Super Stardust HD (demo)
Wipeout HD
Also, I saw the trailer for Uncharted 3 Drakes Deception (wow this is going to be amazing)

Movies watched in 3D thus far...
Mars Needs Moms (great sense of depth)
Despicable Me (my kids love this one)

The 3D capabilities of this television are not the sort that pop out of the screen at you, its more like looking through a window into another dimension. That's the best way I can describe it. What more can I say, I am completely blown away by this television and passive 3D in general. The screen uniformity is very good with no clouding to speak of. The black levels could be better I suppose. All things considered this is a great television that should be considered if your in the marked for a 3D tv.

So the consensus is that there is very little to no input lag on the Vizio? Is the picture affected at all? Been very interested in this tv for a while but heard there was lag.
post #123 of 373
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Originally Posted by jordan23237 View Post

So the consensus is that there is very little to no input lag on the Vizio? Is the picture affected at all? Been very interested in this tv for a while but heard there was lag.

I think the people who experienced unacceptable input lag were dealing with this television resetting Game Mode (it appears as ON even though its OFF). Like I said, I was dealing with 150ms of lag for almost a week before tried turning Game Mode OFF than back ON. I think the Game Mode reset might have something to do with the Netflix/Vudu app that is installed on this television. The Netflix/Vudu app has Game Mode turned OFF by default. I think that when you launch the app from an input that has Game Mode ON it resets it. This is just my theory, I haven't been able to confirm it. I just turned Game Mode OFF an all of my inputs + Netflix/Vudu app.

I had my reservations about purchasing an LCD television because input lag for me is a deal breaker (that's why I held onto my CRT for so long). I am very much into online gaming, COD is my game of choice at the moment and I can honestly say I think this television is great for gaming and would recommend it to anyone looking for a new tv (+ the 3D is a bonus). As for the picture, I didn't see any dip in quality when putting it in Game Mode. I think the picture on this tv is fantastic! Mind you I'm coming from a 34" HD CRT television that is starting to show its age.

Let me know what you think, if/when you bite the bullet!
post #124 of 373
got a problem w. E3D420VX - can't seem to get the correct aspect ratio with either Pioneer dvd or BDT310 bluray players - widescreen movies have height squished-- going through E3D420's aspect ratios in attempt to get a good setting isn't finding one. Is this a resolution setting issue at the players?
post #125 of 373
Thanks to everyone on AVS for sharing your experiences with the set. After much consideration and reading reviews, I decided to spring for this set.

I havent done much on it, but i'm surprised how well the set handles the passive 3D when playing Resistance 3.

What are the optimal settings for gaming/sports?
post #126 of 373
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Originally Posted by ngwest36 View Post

tryout IZ3D's 2D conversion software. Works really well with this set.

whats this about? I got the site up, but how do i use it with this set?
post #127 of 373
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Originally Posted by Saleen4971 View Post

just picked this TV up last week. i love it, but the game mode stuff could be a little easier to find. but after shutting the other stuff off and turning on game made, i love this thing more than ever.

I"m having a hard time finding this too. Also, what else did you turn off?
post #128 of 373
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Originally Posted by Inpherknow View Post

whats this about? I got the site up, but how do i use it with this set?

Go to my forum post on how to set it up by clicking my sig.
post #129 of 373
I bought the E3D420VX earlier today.

Can someone recommended the best picture settings (especially for all those confusing Advanced Controls).

Also ... is Smooth Motion (120Hz) ... recommended for 3D movies (I know OFF is better for 2D).
post #130 of 373
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Originally Posted by umenon View Post

I bought the E3D420VX earlier today.

Can someone recommended the best picture settings (especially for all those confusing Advanced Controls).

Also ... is Smooth Motion (120Hz) ... recommended for 3D movies (I know OFF is better for 2D).

Here's what I use:
Games:
Backlight: 68
Brightness: 61
Contrast: 58
Color: 60
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 0

Movie:
BL - 80
Bright: 66
contr: 44
color: 47
Tint: 1
Sharp: 8

All the advanced stuff is personal preference, at least for me. As far as the real cinema mode I haven't figured out what smooth and precision means. I'm guessing smooth means 120hz, but what is precision?
post #131 of 373
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Originally Posted by ngwest36 View Post

Here's what I use:
Games:
Backlight: 68
Brightness: 61
Contrast: 58
Color: 60
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 0

Movie:
BL - 80
Bright: 66
contr: 44
color: 47
Tint: 1
Sharp: 8

All the advanced stuff is personal preference, at least for me. As far as the real cinema mode I haven't figured out what smooth and precision means. I'm guessing smooth means 120hz, but what is precision?

Thanks for your settings ... that worked out well. But I have two questions ... under "Movie" settings you have Sharpness at 8. I left mine at 0.

Also .. why is your BackLight so high (80) ... is it a very bright room ?
post #132 of 373
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Originally Posted by umenon View Post

Thanks for your settings ... that worked out well. But I have two questions ... under "Movie" settings you have Sharpness at 8. I left mine at 0.

Also .. why is your BackLight so high (80) ... is it a very bright room ?

90 percent of the time I use is as my PC/360/PS3 monitor in a lit room so that's why the backlight. Sharpness is personnel preference. Whatever setting you like is the right setting.
post #133 of 373
I'm deciding between this Vizio and the LG 42LW5300. Which one should I get? Does anybody have any comparisons?
post #134 of 373
Just picked up the E3D420 and I love it!

But an odd thing happened... my new TV somehow jams my Directv remote and it doesn't work unless I put the remote right up to the sensor on my directv box. When I turn off the TV, the remote works fine from any distance. I tested a few times, so I know it's something from the TV. Could it be the wireless signal jamming my remote? I have no idea what to do. Any suggestions? Thanks!

LOVE Vizio. 22inch for my computer monitor and now the 42 for my TV/Blu Ray.
post #135 of 373
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Originally Posted by TheVizMachine View Post

Just picked up the E3D420 and I love it!

But an odd thing happened... my new TV somehow jams my Directv remote and it doesn't work unless I put the remote right up to the sensor on my directv box. When I turn off the TV, the remote works fine from any distance. I tested a few times, so I know it's something from the TV. Could it be the wireless signal jamming my remote? I have no idea what to do. Any suggestions? Thanks!

LOVE Vizio. 22inch for my computer monitor and now the 42 for my TV/Blu Ray.

Found my solution. Apparently the IR on this set is pretty strong and it does interfere with my remote, so turning down backlight settings on the TV fixed the problem.
post #136 of 373
Hey guys I just bought this tv from amazon and I am waiting for it to arrive .
So in the meantime I have been looking for reviews on it and found a good one id like to share with anyone who is on the fence.

http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...DTV-Review.htm

Its a good read.
post #137 of 373
I'm actually in the market for two TV's and the 47-inch Vizio may well be one of them. I'm going to wait and see what black friday brings.

We have a mitsu 73" dlp in the basement but I'm wary of investing $800 in adapters and glasses for what I've read is a so-so 3d experience. I really like the idea of passive 3d.
post #138 of 373
3D specific discussions for this set can be found in the 3D sub-forum ...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1365400


regards //
post #139 of 373
Can anyone give some insight as to how much the halved resolution will be noticeable.

I'm looking to buy this set soon, but if the resolution is considerably worse, I may just forget about the feature. Just want to know if you can tell that it's SD res in 3D.

Right now I am trying to decide between this one at just over $629 and the m420nv at $499.
post #140 of 373
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Originally Posted by EMINENT1 View Post

Can anyone give some insight as to how much the halved resolution will be noticeable.

I'm looking to buy this set soon, but if the resolution is considerably worse, I may just forget about the feature. Just want to know if you can tell that it's SD res in 3D.

Right now I am trying to decide between this one at just over $629 and the m420nv at $499.

Of course you can tell. Mostly jaggies on straight lines. 720P (games) look worse than 1080P (blu rays) but that's the trade off of passive 3D at this price point. For me, I'm willing to suffer a rougher picture for the 3D experience.
post #141 of 373
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Originally Posted by ngwest36 View Post

Of course you can tell. Mostly jaggies on straight lines. 720P (games) look worse than 1080P (blu rays) but that's the trade off of passive 3D at this price point. For me, I'm willing to suffer a rougher picture for the 3D experience.

Maybe my eye is not as discerning lol! I just watched TRON last night and I thought it looked great.
post #142 of 373
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Originally Posted by jsrdlr View Post

Maybe my eye is not as discerning lol! I just watched TRON last night and I thought it looked great.

Oh, yeah, when you into the movie you won't notice anything; only when you make a point to look for it.
post #143 of 373
Well, I picked this up Friday night. Got Wallyworld to price match Costco's $569.95.

I am pleased with this being my first 1080 set. Been watching a 720 Samsung 50" in the living room.

A few things bothering me are even with Cleartype text on Windows 7, I can still see lots of pixelation. I guess it doesn't help that i'm only sitting 2-3 feet away.

There are jaggy's when viewing 3d, but it's really not that bad. Once i'm into the movie and sitting far enough back, I forget about it and don't notice it.

I tried a few sports channels and tried turning on and off the motion features. I don't know if it's artifacting from my cable compression or what, but sports wasn't very impressive. It looked better with everything on high including noise and mpeg though. Had sharness on 5. I did read later on somewhere that any amount of sharpness would produce artifacts and haven't tested again since going back to 0 sharpness.

Overall, great picture and colors watching film and happy with my purchase.
post #144 of 373
CNET posted some great 2D picture settings about a weeks ago.

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Below you'll find the settings we found best for viewing the Vizio E3D420VX in a dim room via the HDMI input at 1080p/24 resolution. Your settings may vary depending on source, room conditions, and personal preference. Check out the Picture settings and calibration FAQ for more information.

---Picture settings menu---
Picture Mode: Movie
Backlight: 42
Brightness: 52
Contrast: 75
Color: 49
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0

---Size & Position submenu---
Horiz. Position: 32
Vertical position: 16
Horizontal Size: 0
Vertical Size: 0

---Color Temperature submenu---
Color Temperature: Normal
Red Gain: 117
Green Gain: 153
Blue Gain: 147
Red Offset: 124
Green Offset: 126
Blue Offset: 123

--Advanced Picture submenu---
Smooth Motion Effect: Off
Real Cinema Mode: Off [grayed out]
Noise Reduction: Off
Color Enhancement: Off
Adaptive Luma: Off
Film Mode: Auto
Backlight Control: Off
Ambient Light Sensor: Off
post #145 of 373
Ok. I don't know why i'm just noticing this now, but sitting about 3 feet back, I can see faint horizontal lines all the way up and down the display and it's bugging me. Is this normal sitting this close up or is there a setting that can eliminate the effect? Is this the 3d film someone else mentioned?

Also, are any of you using as a pc monitor, when i'm browsing to a light colored site, I can hear it having a high pitched whine noise and goes down going to a darker site.

Is this normal? Am I just being really picky?
post #146 of 373
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Originally Posted by EMINENT1 View Post

Ok. I don't know why i'm just noticing this now, but sitting about 3 feet back, I can see faint horizontal lines all the way up and down the display and it's bugging me. Is this normal sitting this close up or is there a setting that can eliminate the effect? Is this the 3d film someone else mentioned?

Also, are any of you using as a pc monitor, when i'm browsing to a light colored site, I can hear it having a high pitched whine noise and goes down going to a darker site.

Is this normal? Am I just being really picky?

the lines are indeed the polarizing film. three feet seems a bit close; I'm about 4.5 with the ED47.

I don't hear the whine you mentioned; it that with TV speakers or PC?

The dot pitch is pretty far apart with this TV, that's why the text on websites looks so bad. It really bothered me as well but found settings that made a huge difference and made it livable.

Mode-Game
Backlight - 84
Brightness -50
contrast - 70
color - 45
tint - 0
sharpness - 0
mpeg - low
color enhancement - normal
luma -extended
film mode - auto
backlight control OPC
ALS - off
smoothness - high
real cinema mode - smooth
noise reduction - medium
post #147 of 373
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Originally Posted by ngwest36 View Post

the lines are indeed the polarizing film. three feet seems a bit close; I'm about 4.5 with the ED47.

I don't hear the whine you mentioned; it that with TV speakers or PC?

The dot pitch is pretty far apart with this TV, that's why the text on websites looks so bad. It really bothered me as well but found settings that made a huge difference and made it livable.

Mode-Game
Backlight - 84
Brightness -50
contrast - 70
color - 45
tint - 0
sharpness - 0
mpeg - low
color enhancement - normal
luma -extended
film mode - auto
backlight control OPC
ALS - off
smoothness - high
real cinema mode - smooth
noise reduction - medium

Well, it's with pc speakers. I did check to see if that was causing it after unplugging them and it isn't. It's audible with the volume down on the tv and the pc speakers off. Just a faint, light eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....

Oh well, so i'm going to have to live with these two issues I guess. Not that bad. Everything else is ok.

With your motion settings... Do you like the soap opera effect? Do you use the same settings for pc as well as cable or disc? Also, with the motion settings, I didn't think they affected text.
post #148 of 373
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Originally Posted by EMINENT1 View Post

Well, it's with pc speakers. I did check to see if that was causing it after unplugging them and it isn't. It's audible with the volume down on the tv and the pc speakers off. Just a faint, light eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....

Oh well, so i'm going to have to live with these two issues I guess. Not that bad. Everything else is ok.

With your motion settings... Do you like the soap opera effect? Do you use the same settings for pc as well as cable or disc? Also, with the motion settings, I didn't think they affected text.

Actually, I don't feel the motion effect is as noticeable as it is on my Sony RPTV even though they are both supposed to be 120hz.

I do change the mode when watching movies. Game mode helps with lag.

Not all those settings affect text of course but since I was listing some, might as well list them all in case others were curious.

I have tinnitus so I hear "eeeeee..." all the time!
post #149 of 373
Tried playing MAG on the PS3 last night and the lag was terrible. I'll try switching HDMI ports, turning game mode off and on etc... to see if it helps. Any other tips?

Update: Well, turning game mode off and back on seemed to do the trick. I still think it has a little more lag than my 73" mitsu but this I can live with. PS3 will go back to the mitsu when the xbox comes at Christmas anyway.

I'm loving this TV. I still like my mitsu for a theater-like experience but the 3D is great on this TV and the 2D picture is impressive IMO too.
post #150 of 373
I am a bit confused. The Vizio E3D420VX is touted as a 5ms screen, and I bought it specifically for such and the 3D, however it is actually ~50ms. I even contacted Vizio support and they rebuffed that it WAS a 5ms screen and that before they could do anything I had to send them video proof of the delay. And the 50ms lag is pretty much unbearable for any gaming. And it has been especially prevalent in Skyrim.

Doesn't this fall a bit into the realm of false advertisement?
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