Does your 2011 Samsung "D" plasma have brightness pops? - Page 54

Yes, Siggy makes valid points, but with little tact. There is not really much mystery as to why we are here sharing our experiences. This being a community of concerned owners, it should be expected that not everyone has a technical understanding of the problem. Are there some confused posts? Sure, what else is new around here???

The primary issue is "pops". From what I've seen, this would cover the vast majority of complaints here. Before contributing, people should of course try to educate themselves a bit as to what they look like.

We all see them. Therefore, we all should be perfectly capable of evaluating the result of the supposed "fix". Of course, it will be left to the more technically competent to characterize and quantify the results.


Sorry, but I don't think an understanding of stimulus is really a prerequisite for this thread. Have you had a look at the title lately?

From memory, I recall seeing "brightness pops" on Nip/Tuck from Netflix (most noticeable on the credits, but visible throughout), on Road to Perdition sent via DirecTV on a premium channel in HD, and on Holiday on DVD through a Samsung Bluray player. I have seen it on many other shows and movies, but these are the ones that I recall the most.

Well, I'm not perfect. I'm human and prone to error. I was just trying to shed some light on what's going on and a description of it. 100% of my words were to help.

There's really 3 things I think people are seeing... all of which I described as best I could previously.

ABL; some of the folks are seeing their ABL kick in and think it's what the brightness pops are.

Floating Brightness, brightness fluctuations, brightness pops

Floating Blacks


They're all totally different, and need to be better defined to anyone who is joining the thread trying to help/learn. I posted an example of floating brightness back a few pages as it was clear to me not everyone is on the same page.

I just did my best to describe them and explain how some folks are probably confusing the terms, or possibly seeing the ABL which won't be fixed in a firmware update.

I guess what I dislike about your response is I was actually just trying to help. I didn't single anyone out, I just pointed out some stuff. Yet you find it necessary to say I was doing it without tact. Which is your opinion and should have been stated as such but wasn't. Honestly what does it benefit anything by stating it?

I hadn't seen anyone else popping in to be sure everyone is on the same page... Because it's really obvious everyone isn't. I had an inkling that saying nothing was the right choice. And on that note I'm out, best of luck. I hope the firmware does work

Great, but I still need specific parts to record (give me a starting and end point). I'm not going to capture an entire episode of a show and upload to youtube.

Well, Im heading home in about 90 minutes, sure hope there are 2 drives there waiting me...

Siggy, in case you return for a response...

I know my post was a little hot, but it was the high horse tone that got me there. As I was simply making an observation (based on some of the reaction posts), I don't think there's any question that I was expressing my opinion by suggesting that you could have been more tactful. I respect the fact that you were trying to help, and share your frustration at times. But, I'm just being realistic.

So, to be clear, I think most people here are bothered by the sudden, seemingly random increases in brightness (kind of like clicking the gamma control up a notch), followed by a similar drop back to normal a short time later. This is a pop, and if your set has them as severely as mine, it should be fairly simple (even without controlled testing, which is also a good idea) to try the firmware and report back: pops gone, stayed the same, possible decrease, definite decrease.

Thanks, I agree. For me; I returned my last D8000 after I found I couldn't "unsee" the brightness fluctuations. My last straw was watching Disney's latest "a christmas carol". I couldn't get into the movie with the brightness bouncing back and forth. Pretty sad because Samsung just about nailed it on everything else.

I going to go back into lurk mode as I don't think I can contribute anything more than I said already I'll try and use better tact in the future, but that requires so much more effort

1024.8 just arrived today for my PN64D8000. Results to follow....

I currently have a PN64D550 with FW 1016.1.

It was a replacement for a 59D6500 that I wasn't happy with (brightness pops and buzzing).

Rather than go into the sordid details of how the "pops" went from rare to common depending on content, I'll just say I followed the advice of many on the forum and went to Samsung Live Chat to try and get FW 1019.5.

When I requested version 1019.5, the rep put me on hold, only to return to say:

Roma : As per the model number provided, the latest upgraded firmware is 1018.1.

I told the rep that many people have posted about knowledge of 1019.5, and again requested that version. After probably 10 minutes of the rep putting me "on-hold" they came back to ask for all my info before confirming:

Roma : You will get the USB firmware with in 5 to 7 working days.
Visitor: FW 1019.5?
Roma : Yes, firmware 1019.5 version.

So, we'll see what happens in 5 - 7 days. I'm not overly confident though that they won't end up sending 1018.1 or some version other than 1019.5. Who knows.

If/when I receive it, I'll watch content that I've noticed the issue with and report back.

(Fingers...and toes...crossed)

Please upload it. I am tired of waiting for it to arrive.

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Awesome! I have the same set, cant wait to hear if it works for you. If it does are you able to upload the files?

Same here. Updating now.

Drum roll please.....

Glad to see they are starting to show. Nothing for my D7000 today.

Mine arrived today for my PN64D8000. I just uploaded it and I can confirm that it is the correct firmware version of 1024.8!

I plan on watching a few shows tonight on DVR with my wife. I'll be watching Castle where I can see a good 5-10 brightness fluctuations/pops per episode.

Looking forward to good news! Will keep you all updated.

Can you upload the files please

Ok guys, updated to 1024.8, got Inception on the blu-ray playing right now, so far I have seen a couple of fluctuations in the black bars at the top and bottom of the screen. Not a lot, but still there. I have not seen any fluctuations in black during other areas of the scenes, only in the black bars so far.

I can tell you with certainty that it hasn't eliminated the fluctuations in black bars, but I can't tell you yet if it has decreased in frequency nor can I say for sure if it effects fluctuating blacks in other scenes.

If you guys have any other blu-ray movies or examples with lots of pops please let me know and I'll see if I can reproduce them.

More to follow....

Can you tell me when the brightness pops happen on the Inception Blu Ray? I just received the usb drive and want to do a before and after test.

I uploaded 1024.8 for any D8000 owners who haven't received it yet. I obviously take no responsibility for it. Update at your own risk.

http://www.filedropper.com/t-gap8akuc

I noticed that after the initial install, it did a 2 minute "Optimization". I don't recall seeing that in previous updates.

Ok, around 43:45 - 43:52 you can see a couple of big pops in the black bars on Inception. Please let me know if you see them.

Interesting, mine didn't say that....

Mine "optimized" as well. After update checked a recorded episode of true blood, NO POP. Don't want to jump the gun here but so far so good.

Tivo, Can you see any pops yet? I dont care about black bars but I care about actual Scenes.

Adrian, did you specifically see pops in those scenes before update?

Guys I have netflix and will be getting 1019 soon. Can you tell me shows and times in the show or movie thats on netflix so i can reproduce before and after?

I haven't seen any pops yet. But I haven't done exhaustive testing yet either. They were quite obvious and occurred often before, so it shouldn't take long to tell.

Yes, i specifically noted FB before the install.

Thank you!

Unbelievable, my update now causes my screen saver to turn on, even when I have it turned off!!!!!

Can anyone test if they messed up black levels or anything? Any word on 1019.5?

Before USB update

OK just popped in the Blu Ray and I did not see any pops at all during that scene. The movie does goes from a very dark scene in a basement where Leo starts dreaming to a very bright dream on the train tracks, but I did not see any pop in the black bars or image. I tried switching the 24 vs 60 P on the blu ray player but did not see any difference. Is there a way to switch the 24 vs. 60 P on the TV itself? Otherwise either my 59D8000 does not have this issue or I just cant notice it.