Does your 2011 Samsung "D" plasma have brightness pops? - Page 16

Originally Posted by hockeynut

Totally agree. Who ever is recommending cell 20 is nuts. It should not be that bright. I keep mine at 10 or lower.

Some of the suggested settings recommended in this thread are sooooo bright. I don't get it.

Originally Posted by ObsceneJesster

I have had my TV for one week and have watched a total of 5 movies and 4 Hockey games. My settings are as fallows :

Cell Light - 13
Contrast - 64
Color - 51
Gamma - 0
Brightness - 48

I have not seen a single brightness pop and I have been looking very close for them. Someone said they get a lot of them when watching hockey but out of the four games I watched, I didn't see any at all. I also put in my Inception BluRay the other night and played the snow scene about 5 times looking for the brightness to start fluctuating. It never did. The brightness/contrast stayed the exact same. The only information I can give that may be able to help (doubt it will) is that I have every single advanced option/picture option at it's standard setting or turned off. Who needs all that extra crap like dynamic contrast when you have a TV capable of producing this good of a picture.

Originally Posted by DLzone

The reason people are recommending the high cell light is that you have to reduce the contrast and brightness so much to remove the brightness pops that cell light remains the only real option to brighten up the picture.

To the people that think this is just ABL - it's not. I own 2 Samsung Plasmas. A 2010 58D590 and a 2011 59D6500. The 590 does not exhibit the brightness pops.

I've tried to capture it on video, but because the camera constantly auto adjusts the brightness it makes it really hard to tell whether it's actually the TV changing brightness or the camera.

Originally Posted by ccg1978

1st Post!

I'm looking at getting the PN59D8000 or the UN55D8000. I really want the plasma since I watch sports a lot but don't want this issue as well as the potential burn in problems. What are your suggestions?

Originally Posted by PhDream

Hey guys!

On the Danish Samsung site, new FW has been released!

Actually, there are two (2!) new FW editions: 1025.0 and 1005.0.

I have no idea what these two do, if anything, but I don't know which one to try. Is 1005 the original FW, so people can revert their tvs to the factory state?

Right now I am running FW 1024.0 on my PS59D555 and I have the pops as well.

Originally Posted by cajhaj

is there anybody who saw two sets of same model and one has brightness pops, second none ?

I think it's the way to confirm if it's vary set to set or depends on individual perception..

Originally Posted by cajhaj

is there anybody who saw two sets of same model and one has brightness pops, second none ?

I think it's the way to confirm if it's vary set to set or depends on individual perception..

Originally Posted by demachina

i have 6 model D450's and they all exhibit the "brightness pops"

i have a PC set up and it is very easy to see happen when a large white area is moved from one screen to the next.

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Originally Posted by doomnaut

video of Q & A at hdtv shootout 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWb_AZ_31w

Originally Posted by cajhaj

is there anybody who saw two sets of same model and one has brightness pops, second none ?

I think it's the way to confirm if it's vary set to set or depends on individual perception..

Originally Posted by cajhaj

thnx to all for answers..
I called to my local store and ordered switch to panny50g30 ..
brightness pops are worse with time (or I notice them more) and very very distracting. Even my girlfriend said that it's distracting and she doesn't like this set.
She'll buy some TV to her flat and she said that she definetely doesn't want to buy any samsung after this experience [I told her it's common "feature" of 2011 series]

I'm from europe, I'll get g30y, so I hope I'll be able to fix the FB with fw upgrade..

2Marco79f: which one did you get ?

Originally Posted by cajhaj

is there anybody who saw two sets of same model and one has brightness pops, second none ?

I think it's the way to confirm if it's vary set to set or depends on individual perception..

Originally Posted by KevinNash

What about a power supply problem ?

My PS51D550 is on a 1100VA UPS , the 2 big magnets are on the power câble, no brightness pops here.

Originally Posted by Marco79f

My first 60GT30 was a May build. The unit had FBR issues and weird flickering on shadows as well as a dead pixel. I exchanged it and received an August build with no FBR no green blob and no dead Pixels. I am so happy. As far as the fbr on the gt they are much better than the samsung. On the sammy the pops they were ridiculosly annoingon the 2 sammys I owned. The fbr on the gt seemed almost a feature of the set and did not bother me at all....theyt were very minor.

Originally Posted by KevinNash

It was just an idea reading Palmgrower post.

My set is " version 2 ", August 2011, so that's perhaps the reason of the no pops.

Originally Posted by ObsceneJesster

I also have a August build without the brightness pop issue. My version is Y504. Is this the same version you have?

Originally Posted by kevinnash

where do you see this y504 number ?

On my set, there is a second sticker, on the left side at the back.

On this sticker, there is model code, serial number and version number, version just show number 2.

Originally Posted by janos666

Samsung just released v1025.0 for the MSTAR CPU based EU models (like your D555 or my D550). I will install it and report back (I hope zero improvements but who knows...).

Edit: I found a changelog, it mentions minor DVB-S tuner related bugfixes for Belgian and UK users, nothing interesting or useful.

Edit2:

Oh my God! I can't believe my own eyes, but I think the dynamic TRC scaling is GONE!

ABL still works though, and it does affect the gamma when it limits the brightness, but the gray-scale seems to be stable otherwise (the "black pops" are gone)!

The "Dynamic Brightness" test video shows a stable gray gradient if I tune down my Cell Light to the point when ABL doesn't limit the overall brightness with the full screen bright (near-white) backgrounds. And there is no difference between black and middle-gray backgrounds with higher (~15) Cell Light either.

So, ABL is still here (and will remain here forever...), but the gamma is stable until it starts limiting the peak brightness. So users can still expect some "bright pops" on bright scenes like winter sports with a lot of white snow. But no more "brightened up grays"!


BUT IT NEEDS MORE TESTING!!!
I didn't measure anything yet. It's just my first subjective impression! (May be it's still here and only the magnitude changed or it depends on my other settings because I recently made some changes in the Top Debug Menu...)


Edit3: Sorry, I tested it with CinemaSmooth, I can still notice some dynamic adjustments with 60Hz. When the MLL jumps, dark grays follow (CinemaSmooth has more stable MLL).