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MS and Sony just got served by Nintendo!

post #1 of 48
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a "super wii" will make a debut in june (and out by 2012) at E3 AAAAND the wii will get a $50 price reduction!

http://kotaku.com/#!5792165/new-nint...ox-360-and-ps3

the $50 price drop was "leaked/announced" unofficially by my sisters babies cousins' uncle nephew's wife step-son last week btw

MS/SONY.... Y U NO PRICE DROP ALREADY?!?!

especially the xbox. dudes! ya'll playing catch up now!

one could argue though that the wii will finally catch up in terms of technical achievements, but the wii was sold to just about every dumbazz in the world now.
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appropriate kitty appropriately states:
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drunk post?
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Awesome post?

Fixed!
post #5 of 48
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im drunk on love baby.

to be honest though i dont think nintendo is trying to compete with MS or Sony. i think they're trying to get at Apple. APPLE! i think that's the way the industry is being split right now anyways.

MS vs. Sony and Nintendo vs. Apple.

high tech innovations and technical marvels (ms and sony)
wimpy specs and dumbed down games for their markets (nintendo and apple)
post #6 of 48
LMFAO, go and play your wii or super wii , whatever u want to call u , u are a little 12 year old and thats why u are so excited about it, most of us here dont give a rat about nintendo or any of their consoles.

YOU GOT SERVED now leave our forum you noob
post #7 of 48
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LMFAO, go and play your wii or super wii , whatever u want to call u , u are a little 12 year old and thats why u are so excited about it, most of us here dont give a rat about nintendo or any of their consoles.

YOU GOT SERVED now leave our forum you noob

:P

ok

post #8 of 48
[sarcasm]Woo hoo!!! Now we finally get to play Pokemon in HD! And the knives in Cooking Mama HD will look really sharp and shiny.[/sarcasm]

Sorry but I outgrew Nintendo's IPs years ago and really have no interest playing thru yet another round of rehashed versions of Mario, Zelda and the rest of their kiddie titles. How many Mario Carts can you realistically play?

The N64 was also the "most powerful" console at the time of its release and after a fast start it quickly faded into irrelevance. The GamCube never managed to be anything other than a niche console and the Wii had one of the worst attach rates ever.

Until Nintendo learns how to effectively exploit third party software and better control the quality of games released for their consoles they will always follow the same life cycle: great hardware sales out of the gate, tons of shovelware to cash in on the fad while also diluting consumer confidence, poor third party sales after the initial frenzy wears off, a gradual reduction of third party support, a trickle of quality first party titles and general irrelevance with everyone but the hardcore Nintendo fan until talk begins of the next console, and then it all starts up again.

No thanks. Not again.
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[sarcasm]Woo hoo!!! Now we finally get to play Pokemon in HD! And the knives in Cooking Mama HD will look really sharp and shiny.[/sarcasm]

Sorry but I outgrew Nintendo's IPs years ago and really have no interest playing thru yet another round of rehashed versions of Mario, Zelda and the rest of their kiddie titles. How many Mario Carts can you realistically play?

The N64 was also the "most powerful" console at the time of its release and after a fast start it quickly faded into irrelevance. The GamCube never managed to be anything other than a niche console and the Wii had one of the worst attach rates ever.

Until Nintendo learns how to effectively exploit third party software and better control the quality of games released for their consoles they will always follow the same life cycle: great hardware sales out of the gate, tons of shovelware to cash in on the fad while also diluting consumer confidence, poor third party sales after the initial frenzy wears off, a gradual reduction of third party support, a trickle of quality first party titles and general irrelevance with everyone but the hardcore Nintendo fan until talk begins of the next console, and then it all starts up again.

No thanks. Not again.

While there is a lot of Nintendo stuff I don't like or don't get excited about, I'd love to play Pokemon in HD.
post #10 of 48
Am I excited? You bet. Will this replace either my 360 or my PS3? Not a chance.
post #11 of 48
I love Nintendo. Don't have a Wii because it's not HD, plus I like regular controllers. Zelda and Mario are still more creative and fun than most games available on the 360 and PS3 . Also, N64 was amazing, I hope the new system has cartridges .
post #12 of 48
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post
LMFAO, go and play your wii or super wii , whatever u want to call u , u are a little 12 year old and thats why u are so excited about it, most of us here dont give a rat about nintendo or any of their consoles.

YOU GOT SERVED now leave our forum you noob
Spoken like a true teenager.
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Wrong forum
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Can someone copy & paste the article. Blocked by my employer.
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Can someone copy & paste the article. Blocked by my employer.

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Nintendo's next console will debut at E3 in June, moving the maker of Mario and Zelda into the HD era. The news, first reported by Game Informer today, confirms rumors that have been swirling for months in the wake of slowing game releases from Nintendo.

Furthermore, we've heard that the machine will be more powerful than current-gen systems, meaning Nintendo, currently backing a Wii that is weaker in horsepower than the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, will be showing a new console that is more powerful than those current competitors.

We've asked Nintendo for comment and will let you know if they shock us and spill the beans. Update: Nintendo responded to our inquiry with a standard "Nintendo does not comment on rumor or speculation".

E3 kicks off on June 7, though Nintendo's E3 press conference may occur the day before, if tradition holds.

This is pretty big news, because if MS and Sony were truly planning on waiting until 2014/2015 for their next consoles they are going to have almost zero sales until this, methinks those time frames will be bumped up A LOT. Personally that kinda bums me, I love where the console is right now, I don't want to upgrade again. But oh well.
post #16 of 48
This is somewhat interesting, but honestly I agree with a previous poster. I have outgrown Nintendo a while back.

Unless it is leaps and bounds more powerful, it will just be Mario and Zelda with better graphics and there will be parity on 3rd party releases at last. They would also need to completely overhaul the ancient online interface. Plus, I'm done with gaming by waving my hands around. I think Kinect is on track to make some interesting experiences, but if it's just more of the same, but with better graphics, I'll just hold out for the next 360 and Playstation.

If this is only going to match or slightly best the power of existing, five-year old consoles, who cares?
post #17 of 48
have fun with your "friends codes" and nonexistent online gaming.
post #18 of 48
My 10yo Triplets completely outgrew interest in the Wii over a year ago, they recently asked me to sell it off so they could split the money. Their comment was essentially the same as one above: "Dad, theirs only so many times you can play Mario Cart". When you have 10yo that can kick-butt on X360 Games, the Wii seems a bit ridiculous to them.

Nintendo coming up with a "Super Wii", is sort of like coming out with a new Elmo doll. Wow, he now giggles with more enthusiasm and has spiffier fur! Still only interesting to Kindergartners and super-fans. The niche they had with elderly, as fitness, is going to be superseded by the far more intuitive Kinect and Move. Unless they pull something huge out of their hat, this will just end up a footnote in the grand scheme of themes in the US market. The Wii was a "one trick pony", perfect timing but ultimately an uninspiring product in the long run - kinda like a Furby...
post #19 of 48
I would highly doubt Nintendo is just doing a Wii HD. They have said before that when they can doing something revolutionary they will release a new console. I am hoping it is different and changes gaming. Not that I will buy one, but it will put added pressure on MS and Sony to do something different as well.
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This is somewhat interesting, but honestly I agree with a previous poster. I have outgrown Nintendo a while back...

If this is only going to match or slightly best the power of existing, five-year old consoles, who cares?

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have fun with your "friends codes" and nonexistent online gaming.

You all do realize that the Wii still has a comfortable lead in the console wars for this generation, and only fell second in sales to the 360 at the very end of 2010, right?

I'd say "a whole lot of people" are going to care about a major hardware update to the #1 console, especially if it happens a good 1.5-2 years before either competitor can roll out an updated console.

I get that "hardcore" gamers are compelled to cast scorn on anything Nintendo, but we'd better also realize they're making traditional gaming(gamers) more & more irrelevant with every success.

The era of "gaming" defined by online twitch FPSs dominated by obnoxious 15 year-olds & dudebros who play for 13 hours a day is rapidly coming to an end.
post #21 of 48
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You all do realize that the Wii still has a comfortable lead in the console wars for this generation, and only fell second in sales to the 360 at the very end of 2010, right?

I'd say "a whole lot of people" are going to care about a major hardware update to the #1 console, especially if it happens a good 1.5-2 years before either competitor can roll out an updated console.

I get that "hardcore" gamers are compelled to cast scorn on anything Nintendo, but we'd better also realize they're making traditional gaming(gamers) more & more irrelevant with every success.

The era of "gaming" defined by online twitch FPSs dominated by obnoxious 15 year-olds & dudebros who play for 13 hours a day is rapidly coming to an end.

I would never consider myself "hardcore" and I'm not scorning Nintendo. You have to realize if this is true and when and if it comes out, it's only then going to be around the level of a current 360 or PS3. People then may realize they don't play their Wii anymore, so if it comes out at, say, $299, what is going to compel someone to grab one. Especially when they will be able to get a 360 at around $99 by then or a PS3 priced lower and including a blu ray player.

Again, if this is all true, it just looks like a stop gap solution to something the Wii should have been when it first came out.

Honestly, I use my 360 and PS3 more for media applications and home theater, so I'm not in the 15 year old twitch bucket.

This just seems like too little too late. If the future of gaming is casual experience, well then Apple has already eaten Nintendo's lunch.
post #22 of 48
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You all do realize that the Wii still has a comfortable lead in the console wars for this generation, and only fell second in sales to the 360 at the very end of 2010, right?


selling alot of hardware doesn't mean theres any real money. 360/ps3 has far more game attach rates. Hence you don't see any real 3rd party support on the Wii. Its a money loser. People that buy Wii's are content with Wii sports.
post #23 of 48
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You all do realize that the Wii still has a comfortable lead in the console wars for this generation, and only fell second in sales to the 360 at the very end of 2010, right?

I'd say "a whole lot of people" are going to care about a major hardware update to the #1 console, especially if it happens a good 1.5-2 years before either competitor can roll out an updated console.

I get that "hardcore" gamers are compelled to cast scorn on anything Nintendo, but we'd better also realize they're making traditional gaming(gamers) more & more irrelevant with every success.

The era of "gaming" defined by online twitch FPSs dominated by obnoxious 15 year-olds & dudebros who play for 13 hours a day is rapidly coming to an end.

- Sure the Wii has the lead, but I would like to know how many are still being used regularly. Most of my kids' peers have it collecting dust too, sure every house on my street has one - but very few use it anymore, even those who do not have a 360 or PS3. And even the non-core casual gamers (ie parents who like the cute sounds and affirmations it makes) have essentially the same view, nice gimmick but the functionality and titles simply isn't there, if there is no motivation to continue their time will be re-prioritized. I am sure many of them would be sold by now, but telling those people to trade it in at Amazon or GS gets a confused glazed over look from them - the $100 they would get for everything is not even worth the effort for them, the little wand things are worth more to them as a conversation piece.

- Dedicated Gamers, twitch FPS or otherwise, are becoming irrelevant? Tell that to Infinity Ward, that Billion Dollar Franchise must be a disappointment to them. When non-gamers define the industry and it's long term profit sucess, for a significant multi-year stretch, then I may accept that argument. However, the Kinect & Move will just as likely continue to attract this casual crowd with superior titles or functionality. Honestly I see many more "casual" users, young and old, enthusiastically beam about their DS (than compared their Wii).

- My kids don't just go on COD, they actually spend more time with the Arcade games or titles geared to younger players - they are 10yo after all. But more than any of those games they play the goofy games on the Kinect. So which is it then, casual gamers on an X360 are then considered core? Or is it you are truly not casual unless you play a Wii? It either is or it isn't, you can't have it both ways without that argument being moot. And they don't spout off nonsense on XBL because they are restricted to a Friends list, which any responsible parent would do. Awesome knee-jerk reaction and stereotyping, about kids that are intelligent and skilled enough to know that the Wii is now obsolete and irrelevant to them; what's next, a overgeneralized comment about who eats at Popeye's?

Just my $0.02
post #24 of 48
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i know i read recently that nintendo has begun to lose money. as stated before its mainly to do with the attach rates. many people buy the wii for one or two games and thats it. MS is doing great with attach rates here in the US, but sony is ruling in japan and europe.

if there ever was a drunk mode on me, it must have been last saturday. i attempted to play COD4 Reflex on the wii (my bro's). i never wanted to launch a wii-remote and nunchuck so f'n far in my life! HORRIBLE! that said, the wii is definetly for the kiddies, however think of this... if all those kiddies got mommy/daddy/santa to buy them a wii, they're prolly likely to get a wii 2. developers see the system install base and if nintendo makes the right decisions it COULD possibly upend what we all play in 2-3 years.

an example? i use to play a very craptacular version of tetris on my cellphone (still do!), meanwhile everyone and their dog is playing a super deluxe version (with zombies!) on the iphone. the iphone changed the cell market for better or worse (worse is my vote).
post #25 of 48
Mmmm. Popeyes......

Anyway, I'm on board for a new Nintendo console, but I fall into the long time Nintendo fan who will probably buy any console they release crowd. I've got a Wii and it's got some good games, but most of it is shovelware crap. I'll grant you that. I also absolutely HATE the motion controls, but I can't see them abandoning that.
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kids that are intelligent and skilled enough to know that the Wii is now obsolete and irrelevant to them

Just my $0.02

This is an interesting point; my 12 year old stepson( just got married in Feb) has barely looked at his wii since he started playing my 360 and PS3 the past month. He's more interested in teaming up with me on Halo and playing Mirror's edge( he's particularly fascinated with this game) than waving around his wii-mote to play Mario now.
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This is an interesting point; my 12 year old stepson( just got married in Feb) has barely looked at his wii since he started playing my 360 and PS3 the past month. He's more interested in teaming up with me on Halo and playing Mirror's edge( he's particularly fascinated with this game) than waving around his wii-mote to play Mario now.

My 12 year old daughter is the same way. She'd rather play COD online with her friends from school over live.

Having had a Nintendo console since elementary school though, it's hard for me to pass them up. Also, the wife will play Mario or DK, but I don't think she has ever picked up an xbox controller that wasn't an instrument.
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This is pretty big news, because if MS and Sony were truly planning on waiting until 2014/2015 for their next consoles they are going to have almost zero sales until this, methinks those time frames will be bumped up A LOT. Personally that kinda bums me, I love where the console is right now, I don't want to upgrade again. But oh well.

How fdo you figure they are going to have zero sales? That is ridiculous. People are not going to stop buying the 360 and Ps3 just because Nintendo has a new console. Call of Duty like games are not going to be Wii exclusive, if even on there. The Wii is a completely different kind of gaming console aimed at a different audience/gamer. Hardcore gamers are not going to start buying Wiis only, will never happen.
post #29 of 48
Its pretty much a given that when the next xbox/ps is released, their new hardware will make the wii hd look like last gen.
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i know i read recently that nintendo has begun to lose money. as stated before its mainly to do with the attach rates.

Sales for Wii have pretty much leveled out over the past year, so a new console was due to be announced soon rather than later. And if Nintendo is losing money (which I doubt), it's not because of low attach rates. Their own software sells great; they lose nothing when third-party games don't sell well. So I doubt they're "losing money." They're just not making it hand-over-fist like they were a couple years ago.

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Mirror's edge( he's particularly fascinated with this game)

Your stepson has very good taste. One of my favorites this gen! Tragically underrated game.
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