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post #151 of 4689
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

Yeah but why would you want to watch on a small screen?

Even if you have a htpc setup, the streaming PQ can't be as good.

That's the way I look at it. Plus, you then create a 2 week gap before the next episode.
post #152 of 4689
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

That's the way I look at it. Plus, you then create a 2 week gap before the next episode.

I hate those two week gaps, I used to watch US of Tara on Demand and it was always available nearly a week early until the last episode and it didn't show up and I had to wait two weeks for the season finale. I'll probably skip the advanced one and wait on the regular one too.
post #153 of 4689
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

Yeah but why would you want to watch on a small screen?

Even if you have a htpc setup, the streaming PQ can't be as good.

It's not. I've checked it out and it's pretty bad on anything more than a small PC monitor. Looks like a highly compressed 480, flash based.
post #154 of 4689
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

It's not. I've checked it out and it's pretty bad on anything more than a small PC monitor. Looks like a highly compressed 480, flash based.

Is it possible you were getting a reduced-quality stream because you were on a slow internet connection? A lot of these streaming services now adapt PQ to the quality of connection rather than buffer. If HBO Go is as bad as you report under ideal network conditions, that's disappointing. I've been pretty impressed with most Netflix streaming content via my Apple TV. Granted, this is hooked up to only a 37" TV, but even sitting really close I have a hard time telling the difference between that and HD OTA. So it is possible to have decent HD streams. Hulu from my HTPC looks noticeably worse, though. Watchable for sitcoms, but not good enough for something like GoT.

I'm surprised that, given their high standards, HBO didn't pull out all the stops to get better quality. They are making a big push to roll it out by offering this episode early; if the infrastructure isn't there to support it, they might find that it backfires. I'd wager a guess that HBO viewers are more discerning than Joe Idolwatcher when it comes to PQ.
post #155 of 4689
The quality is OK standard definition, quite viewable on my iPad 2 via my home network, but not HD. I haven't bothered looking at it on my desktop PC with a wired ethernet connection, because, really, why? I don't have time to watch 10% of what I'd like to.
post #156 of 4689
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Originally Posted by mdr25 View Post

Is it possible you were getting a reduced-quality stream because you were on a slow internet connection?

No. The quality is sub-par at best. Check it out for yourself. Calling this anything more than SD would be a stretch. I get equal or better quality via Netflix or Amazon in SD titles. HBO Go is clearly intended for portable devices and nothing more.
post #157 of 4689
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

Yeah but why would you want to watch on a small screen?

Even if you have a htpc setup, the streaming PQ can't be as good.

I can watch it on my TV since it's hooked up to my computer, so it won't be a small screen. Thinking about it now, I'm going to do my best not to watch it so there isn't a 2 week gap between shows as others pointed out.

It's tough because the way the shows are ending, you want to see more.
post #158 of 4689
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

No. The quality is sub-par at best. Check it out for yourself.

Confession: I'm not an HBO subscriber. I've been watching GoT from a friend's house (and one episode from a streaming site of questionable legitimacy). So far, I haven't had to ask him for his HBO Go login information. So far.
post #159 of 4689
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Originally Posted by mdr25 View Post

Confession: I'm not an HBO subscriber. I've been watching GoT from a friend's house (and one episode from a streaming site of questionable legitimacy). So far, I haven't had to ask him for his HBO Go login information. So far.

HBO GO doesn't have a log in, it interfaces with your online account at your provider. So in my case, to access HBO GO I have to log into my DirecTV account.
post #160 of 4689
Man the seen with the young boy 10-12 sucking on the queens tit, is still haunting me.
post #161 of 4689
Is there a non spoiler family tree or something? They keep adding all of these characters or referencing diseased family members that apparently I should know.
post #162 of 4689
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post


No. The quality is sub-par at best. Check it out for yourself. Calling this anything more than SD would be a stretch. I get equal or better quality via Netflix or Amazon in SD titles. HBO Go is clearly intended for portable devices and nothing more.

I've seen it and while its very good for streaming, it just wont compare to an original airing of the show. The stream quality is dependant on connection speed however so you may have a.great connection, but the connection to the HBOGO servers may be subpar (you see the same thing with Netflix and other online streaming material). There is also the question of source (what source they put on the servers) if the source is horrible the stream will be bad as well. I've tried HBOGO on my Boxee Box and the stream was watchable, but not as good as the OA on HBO. I see HBOGO as a take your subscription with you type service

Great episode, while thee are quite a few characters I expected that going in. It doesn't bother me and I haven't had too Mich of an issue following along.
post #163 of 4689
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Originally Posted by ragedogg69 View Post

Is there a non spoiler family tree or something? They keep adding all of these characters or referencing diseased family members that apparently I should know.

Yeah like who are the gay guys? I know they're knights of some sort with designs on the throne, but how do they fit in?

Was one of the conspirators Arya spied on supposed to be the eunuch, ie we're supposed to suspect it, not that it's necessarily true. Littlefinger seemed to be implying the eunuch was seen with some foreign agent.

I can see I'm going to get confused fast. I hope we're not going to go through all 7 families!

So Jamie ordered Ned taken alive, then they stabbed him and left him there? Oookey.
post #164 of 4689
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Originally Posted by Metalbender View Post

Man the seen with the young boy 10-12 sucking on the queens tit, is still haunting me.

I hope that was a prosthetic or CGI insert, for the young actor's sake. Cause man I would not want that to be my first encounter with a breast that I have an active memory of!
post #165 of 4689
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

Yeah like who are the gay guys? I know they're knights of some sort with designs on the throne, but how do they fit in?

Was one of the conspirators Arya spied on supposed to be the eunuch, ie we're supposed to suspect it, not that it's necessarily true. Littlefinger seemed to be implying the eunuch was seen with some foreign agent.

I can see I'm going to get confused fast. I hope we're not going to go through all 7 families!

So Jamie ordered Ned taken alive, then they stabbed him and left him there? Oookey.

My take on Ned is that Jamie knew if he killed him, his brother would be killed. I don't think he wanted the guard to stab him. I believe that's why Jamie hit the guard before he got on his horse and rode off.

The guy getting his chest waxed is King Robert's brother. That's why they talked about the possibility of him inheriting the throne one day. His name is Renly btw. As for the guy doing the waxing, I'm not sure who that is.
post #166 of 4689
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Originally Posted by boltsfan21 View Post

My take on Ned is that Jamie knew if he killed him, his brother would be killed. I don't think he wanted the guard to stab him. I believe that's why Jamie hit the guard before he got on his horse and rode off.

The guy getting his chest waxed is King Robert's brother. That's why they talked about the possibility of him inheriting the throne one day. His name is Renly btw. As for the guy doing the waxing, I'm not sure who that is.

The guy with Renly is Loras Tyrell aka "Knight of Flowers". He was the one that gave the rose to Sansa before jousting and defeating Gregor Clegane.
post #167 of 4689
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

Yeah like who are the gay guys? I know they're knights of some sort with designs on the throne, but how do they fit in?

Was one of the conspirators Arya spied on supposed to be the eunuch, ie we're supposed to suspect it, not that it's necessarily true. Littlefinger seemed to be implying the eunuch was seen with some foreign agent.

I can see I'm going to get confused fast. I hope we're not going to go through all 7 families!

So Jamie ordered Ned taken alive, then they stabbed him and left him there? Oookey.

Guy getting shaved is Renly, King Robert's younger brother. He's on the council. The other guy is Knight of the Flowers, a new character. Can't remember his family, but it's a rich one. Yes, Varys the eunuch was one and the other was the host of the Tragayrens in Pella before the marraige. What you're seeing is that nearly everyone except the Starks are up to their eyeballs in plots...trust no one...which is getting pretty obvious...and...that the Starks are dumber than dirt.
post #168 of 4689
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Originally Posted by boltsfan21 View Post

My take on Ned is that Jamie knew if he killed him, his brother would be killed. I don't think he wanted the guard to stab him. I believe that's why Jamie hit the guard before he got on his horse and rode off.

The guy getting his chest waxed is King Robert's brother. That's why they talked about the possibility of him inheriting the throne one day. His name is Renly btw. As for the guy doing the waxing, I'm not sure who that is.

That was my take on the end as well. If we remember back to episode 1 (I think) Ned made a remark about Jamie's armor being "very clean". If Ned was goign to be injured he wanted it to be by his sword, not by his soldiers.
post #169 of 4689
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Originally Posted by ragedogg69 View Post

Is there a non spoiler family tree or something? They keep adding all of these characters or referencing diseased family members that apparently I should know.

- HBO has a good primer.

http://www.hbo.com/#/game-of-thrones...KyMQIAYmwXOA==
post #170 of 4689
For those trying to figure who is who...I'm doing my best too--this is what I've come up with so far:

Lady Stark's sister is crazy, and apparently has great breast milk.

Ned is still trying to find out what happened to breast milk's husband, the former hand to the king.

Something about that book Ned has could be trouble.

The king has a gay brother, because let's face it, it's HBO...I kid, I'm guessing it's part of the story.

Jaime is apparently not all show, he has skill and probably would've bested Ned Stark. Couldn't kill him under the circumstances, so I'm guessing he wanted to trade Ned for his brother, but left him lying in the street????

Arya, or however her name is spelled, is destined to one day lead an army...I'm guessing the sounds Ned was hearing as she "danced" was foreshadowing her furture.

Her brother is bitter back in Winterfell.

that one guy is apparently family to someone Stark defeated or something?

The owner of the brothel...did he help set up Stark? and then tried to play like he didn't know what was going on? It seemed rather suspicious to me.

the king has a bunch of bastards, and apparently his former hand had one too...bastards galore.

the king's days are numbered...I mean let's face it, out of all the conspiracy conversations we've heard, has anyone said anything about saving the king? Ned would probably be the only one that would try.

Wondering how all of this friction is going to affect the young prince and Sansa? I can't remember her name, but I wonder if they're still supposed to get married after all of this.

This is some of the stuff I've pieced together...maybe still a bit fuzzy, but the story isn't too hard to follow I don't think. Wouldn't mind a dragon or two showing up...or some whitewalkers attacking those at the wall.
post #171 of 4689
Jedi - not too bad a summary, but I don't know where you got the idea Jon Arryn had a bastard.
post #172 of 4689
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Originally Posted by Metalbender View Post

Man the seen with the young boy 10-12 sucking on the queens tit, is still haunting me.

not as bad as the knight sucking on the kings brother after shaving his chest
post #173 of 4689
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Originally Posted by JediMastr View Post

Jaime is apparently not all show, he has skill and probably would've bested Ned Stark. Couldn't kill him under the circumstances, so I'm guessing he wanted to trade Ned for his brother, but left him lying in the street????
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I disagree with this one. Jamie looked stunned and nervous when he couldn't out muscle Ned and a panic look came across his face.
post #174 of 4689
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Originally Posted by bruce73 View Post

Hmmm ... can't help wondering how the fate of that horse is going to play to some here.

I found that scene laughable. Not only did it look fake but was so impossible that someone could do that with one swipe of a plain sword, regardless of how sharp it is, made the whole thing look bad. Plus, since the horse did not have the "cute" factor, or was an innocent pup, or had its own story going from episode one, there was no emotional tie to it so I just chuckled and that whole scene.
post #175 of 4689
If you can do that to an ox, which you can, I don't see why you couldn't to a horse. Anyway, was a little surprised they kept that, glad they did. Gregor is a beast.
post #176 of 4689
I'll keep watching, but it's just not that good so far. Am I alone in this thinking?
post #177 of 4689
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Originally Posted by mphtrilogy View Post

I'll keep watching, but it's just not that good so far. Am I alone in this thinking?

agreed
i dvr the west coast feed and watch when nothing else is on vs watching asap like many of my favorites (hate having to use cc to help with the dialog)

the king is the least noble of any king portrayed before
can't stop thinking about him as Bill Miller in Still Standing
post #178 of 4689
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

HBO GO doesn't have a log in, it interfaces with your online account at your provider. So in my case, to access HBO GO I have to log into my DirecTV account.

HBO is apparently onto my plan before I even implemented it. I guess they figured out that people would just share logins. Shucks.
post #179 of 4689
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Originally Posted by sirjonsnow View Post

Jedi - not too bad a summary, but I don't know where you got the idea Jon Arryn had a bastard.

I thought the young man making swords was the former hand's son...Was he the king's too? edit: just rewatched that scene and indeed he was the king's.

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agreed
i dvr the west coast feed and watch when nothing else is on vs watching asap like many of my favorites (hate having to use cc to help with the dialog)

the king is the least noble of any king portrayed before
can't stop thinking about him as Bill Miller in Still Standing

That's where I know him from! I knew I'd seen him before lol
post #180 of 4689
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Originally Posted by dm145 View Post


agreed
i dvr the west coast feed and watch when nothing else is on vs watching asap like many of my favorites (hate having to use cc to help with the dialog)

the king is the least noble of any king portrayed before
can't stop thinking about him as Bill Miller in Still Standing

Since when do Kings have to be "noble" all of the time
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