'Game of Thrones' on HBO HD - NO SPOILERS or Book Discussion - Page 59

Finale came out pretty much as I expected, a visit to each storyline, a cliffhanger and somewhat of a resolution with Dany and the Dragons (thankfully). Some great scenes...Tyrion's with the gloating Magister, Varris and Shae...Arya and Jonquer(sp?), when he changed faces my wife said "Wow"...Briene and Jaime, for some reason this arc is appealling to me and I hope they develop it...John Snow ended exactly where I thought it would, a fight with his boss, a deliberate sacrifice and partial acceptance (all in about 3 minutes). I've never liked the Theon/Bran storylines, but I guess they had to move that along, so fine. The march of White Walkers (I only saw the 2 riding) with their dead Wight (zombie) army was a good place to end it. All in all enjoyable and better than I expected for this complicated wrap up.

well i got kinda close when i posted this last week.

did not notice her huge nose before
that threw me

that pretty well sums up my take on this last ep.

they covered and caught us up on all the storylines except davos and his son;

i liked the way dany harnessed the power of her dragons and exacted the revenge to which she was richly entitled after all she had to endure to make sure his dragons survived. also liked the way she realized that she possessed special powers that could overwhelm the magic of the warlock.

odd that tyrion wants to stay in kings landing where he will clearly be a non-entity with no allies. after what he did in the battle and receive such unjust treatment would certainly motivate me to find a more receptive environment. is shae leaving for her home country? she is clearly unsafe as long as cercai remains in power.

mystified by what happend at winterfell. if the ironmen burned it and killed luwin for no reason, why wouldn't the bastard laying sieige to it let the ironmen escape? no motivation for the bastards troops to sack the city since his father is serving in robb's army and apparently has some leadership position. why were bronn, his brother and their aides oblivious to the siege and destruction of winterfell? why go north?

presumably theon is in cuffs on his way to meet justice with robb.

unless some of you prognosticaters are correct and sansa has some role to play in the downfall of the lannisters from the iron throne, i'm done with her character. bad decision after bad decision. doesn't she understand that she will be mistreated/imprisoned since she has no value other than that of a hostage? was littlefinger trying to get her to work in one of his brothels?

conjecture on next season, given the rise of dany and the dragons and the imminent invasion from the north, the destruction of winterfell was certain just a matter of time. arya may end up with her friend jaqen in braavos if she cannot find rob and learns winterfell is no more.

i can't wait for the lannisters to be slaughtered, either by dragons, whitewalkers, or stennis and his black magic.

Yes that's already been confirmed a long time ago. Season 3/4 will be book 3. As far as the others go no one knows yet since we haven't made it to the renewal points for the show. Since this is an epic series spanning many years (I think) the actors should be able to age with the storyline.

I think what they meant was 3 seasons each not total. So a total of 6 seasons. I am thinking they hope to have book 6 by then (if this show makes it that long).

We have seen that they really don't have many guards or warriors there. If there were guards they probably would have been easily dispatched with the small group she had along with the dragons.

I don't think it matters who runs it now it was a waypoint for the show not main place that will hold much value going forward IMO.

Speaking of which, there was a scene where Daenerys appeared to be in the Iron Throne Room. I wonder if that was a vision of the future, or a possible future, when the dragons have attacked King's Landing?

That's up for debate...I've tried to estimate the time that's transpired between the start of S1 and the present. I think it's been about a year, but it could be months. I think there was a line of dialog referring to the time since Ned's beheading (6 months, 8?). Melisandre said the war will go on for years. Winter is still evidently coming, but hasn't crossed the Wall yet. Let's say a year...if the story stays at the same pace, the actors are going to age far faster than the time frame of the story. Makeup can do wonders, but Arya and Bran might be 30 by the time S7 comes along (if we don't get some wicked time jumps)...of course they could kill them all off and we won't have to worry . Hodor will look pretty funny carrying around a 6' tall Bran with a full beard.

not sure how to interpret this. part of it looked like the warlock's magic trying to make dany loose focus by showing her deceased husband and child and the iron throne. but it could be a vision of the future.

When I was wikiing earlier I saw there were supposed to be more of those. I thought they were magical temptations of some kind to keep her mind trapped in the tower. If she touched the throne she would be lost to that dream or if she had stayed with Drogo then she would have forgotten about the dragons and slept in contentment instead of causing trouble. Very much like fruit in the underworld of Greek myth.

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I have to think it was a test of her determination to be with her dragons. What were the two things she wants the most? The iron throne and to be with Drago and her child. She could have become lost in those illusions "forever".m she knew what she was after which is why she didn't touch the throne (she knew it wasn't the real one) and left Drago and her son (she put closure to that line when she said goodbye). The Drago scene more than anything IMO made her get past some of the feelings of angst that we're holding her back before. When she exited she wasnt as burdened with grief or sorrow and seemed much more collected.

HBO hasn't announced they will be picking up a 4th season of Game of Thrones. I know David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have renewed their deals for 2 more seasons, but that doesn't mean the show will get a 4th season.

I'm sure HBO will officially announce they will be picking up a 4th season right near the time season 3 debuts.

I'm just saying how they plan for books 3. Never said it was official for season 4. If they end the show after season 3'we only get half of book 3.

The confirmation I was speaking of was in what the post I quoted was replying to. The show runners have confirmed to us that book 3 will be split into 2 seasons even though they have only been renewed for 1 of those 2 needed.

I was just reading an article this evening that the 4th season hasn't been officially picked up by HBO. I had thought it was since it was confirmed season 3 and 4 will be book 3.

I would hate to think HBO will pull a Deadwood on GoT, but I highly doubt that will be the case. Like this season with the announcement of season 3 after the debut episode, I imagine the season 4 announcement will come after the first episode of season 3 debuts.

I'm really hoping GoT lasts through all the books. This is such an incredible series I can't get enough of.

Oh I totally agree I hope they don't cancel this series either. hBO however does not have a great track record however so we can only take it while they give it to us. I'm still upset over Carnivale so I am always hesitant with HBO series that I like.

- Has there been another HBO show that has received the buzz that Game of Thones has? Not to mention the awards. I would imagine that subscribers are up and DVD/BluRay sales have been very good.

True Blood. Ratings champ for HBO.

Sopranos season 4 premiere pulled 13 million viewers. That show will be tough to beat in both ratings and buzz.

I thought it was just an illusion the Warlock threw down to confuse Dany and make it easier to capture her.

I like dragons. I like white walkers. I don't like it being last episode.

larry

Hodor!

Agree that the sack of Winterfell is unclear. I lean towards the Iron Men burning it, then sneaking away. But how would they know the secret passages with Master Luwin being speared? An alternative for Theon is that he's being taken back home, not traded to the Starks. IMO dad should be relatively appreciative of his son. He took Winterfell though he didn't hold it, but still that's no small feat. He was a cruel ahole about it, but then so is dad.

I'm starting to come around to the Sansa story line - the opposite of some posters here. She's stupid, and always makes the wrong decision, but she has that Stark honor and a share of their courage. She's not Arya to fight with a sword, or even Cercei to overawe people, but in Blackwater she took the lead in the Red Keep where she could even in a small way. She represents all those swept up by events bigger than themselves, and just trying to survive. Not sure what good decisions she has available at this point. Trust Littlefinger? Go off into the wild with the Hound? She's stuck where she is until maybe Robb comes to free her, or Dany.

No one mentioned the Tyrells joining with the throne, and dumping poor Sansa. I think Margaery pushes Joffrey around. With any luck she kicks his ass and torments him. Hearteater my @$$. I also think we'll see a good scene of Tywin giving Joffrey a piece of his mind.

I liked the dragon ending and the torching of the Undying (but not Unburning). The first one blowing the smoke ring to start off was funny. They now seem powerful enough even at their small size to protect Dany, and probably all she needed to convince any guards in their way - "Sure thing, Mother of Dragons, go right on in."

Tyrion doesn't seem to have much trust for Master Pycelle does he? Master Pycelle is also not so feeble (or stupid) as he makes out to be.

Jon Snow's an idiot, which proves he's a Stark through and through. Still his thread should be worth it just to see more of Ygritte.

Finally had the time last night to finish up the last 3 episodes .. this season went way to fast .. I wish HBO would at least do a 2 hour finale or a 13 episode season .. but, I'll take what I can get I guess ..

You might want to keep your eyes closed in the HDTV forum from now on since the spoiler thread now has summary posts in the forum view! I mentioned this issue but there's nothing that can be done about it.

Lucky the show is going off air. At least there's less chance of the other thread popping up.

If you go to your profile, and edit your account settings, you can check on the "Compact Thread List Page" option to fix the summary posts in the forum view.

I agree. I can't believe season 2 is already over when it seems like it just started a few weeks ago. That would be nice if HBO would do a 2 hour finale each season. I just can't get enough of this show. I'm eagerly looking forward to the blu-ray release of season 2 and the start of season 3.

+1

I was very happy to see 3 things in the finale -

Dany gets her mojo ( and the dragons) back. I still think she'll be the one to beat in the end. And Westoros may just need her dragons if the Deathwalkers make it over the wall.

Sansa suppressed a smile after she was dumped and was walking away. Maybe, just maybe, she's not as dumb or weak as I thought and maybe she's planning on sticking around to see Joffrey taken down or is starting to think she'd like to get a little revenge on her own

Arrya may get some assassin training

All in all - quite satisfying, except for waiting 9 months for more!