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Originally Posted by rebkell View Post

How are the HBO seasons supposed to follow(coincide) the books? I know it was mentioned a few pages back, but I can't seem to find it. One book was gonna cover two seasons?? I've started reading the books, I'm early in book 1 and it's slow going, but it's a different experience when you have already seen these characters on the screen.

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Originally Posted by SupaKats View Post

Book three is being spread over seasons three and four. Nothing beyond that has been said but just based on pages book four is between one and two and five is the longest of the bunch.

Season 1=Book 1
Season 2=Book 2
Season 3= Book 3
Season 4=Book 3

The rest as unknown as Supa said......The books are well worth the ready IMO, they often fill in some some of the "holes" or answer the deatials which the shows cant hit........They started to diverge in Season 2, but not greatly.....But thats the end of that as I dont want to discuss the books too much, just invites too much trouble.......Personally I try to read the book after the season is over, but since they are splitting this season in two Im not sure how I am going to handle it........
post #2282 of 4782
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

The books are well worth the ready [read] IMO, they often fill in some some of the "holes" or answer the deatials which the shows cant hit........They started to diverge in Season 2, but not greatly.....But thats the end of that as I dont want to discuss the books too much, just invites too much trouble.......Personally I try to read the book after the season is over, but since they are splitting this season in two Im not sure how I am going to handle it........

I agree. I have already read Books 1-4 of the A Song of Ice and Fire saga twice, and Book 5 once. After Season 3 of Game of Thrones ends I plan to reread Books 3-5.
post #2283 of 4782
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

no it needs to run 24/7 year round with new epsiodes.

I'd never leave the house!
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Originally Posted by rebkell View Post

Which dragon was Sean Connery the voice for, he was a great dragon. LOL

Haha - if these dragons start talking, I'm going to be sad.
post #2284 of 4782
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post

I'd never leave the house!
Haha - if these dragons start talking, I'm going to be sad.

Maybe they'll sound like Bane (Tom Hardy) sounding like Sean Connery.
post #2285 of 4782
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post

it really needs to be at least a 12 episode show per season like Boardwalk Empire at this point with so many stories unfolding.

Pfft, I want it to be like network TV and have about 20 episodes a season. I can't get enough of the show! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

Ha. Just noticed that they made a common error. Unless the books specifically describe their dragons has having only two legs the creatures in the show are in fact, wyverns.

Dragons have four legs. biggrin.gif
Sounds like a topic for Sheldon Cooper. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post

I'd never leave the house!
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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post

Pfft, I want it to be like network TV and have about 20 episodes a season. I can't get enough of the show! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post

Pfft, I want it to be like network TV and have about 20 episodes a season. I can't get enough of the show! smile.gif

and then be canceled jsut as easily becasue the ratings dont make it? eek.gif no thanks
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Apparently the budget for this season is $50 million. The show could double the budget to extend the series but I would anticipate we would be the ones paying a lot more for it every month.
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

and then be canceled jsut as easily becasue the ratings dont make it? eek.gif no thanks

Yep, think Deadwood, Firefly, and Rubicon. There are probably other equally horrible examples of shows that died undeserved early deaths I didn't think of but you get the idea.
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Deadwood was not a ratings issue. HBO and Milch needed to start the mega-hit "John From Cincinnati". (Perhaps the all-time stupidest decision.)
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what were the ratings for sunday's premiere?
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I saw 4 million+ somewhere, with a 6 million combined across the night.

It was one of the highest (if not the best performing) ratings for show yet.
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

I saw 4 million+ somewhere, with a 6 million combined across the night.

It was one of the highest (if not the best performing) ratings for show yet.

saw the same numbers especially going against The Walking Dead which got I think around 12 Mil, those numebrs arent that bad at all smile.gif The show has been getting increasingly better ratings ever since the Season 1 finale and averaging somewhere in the 3 mil mark. I believe it was the most viewed episode ratings wise as well.....

All tis on top of being one of the most pirated shows on TV (premiere had over 1 million download according to Torrentfreak earlier in the week)....
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

saw the same numbers especially going against The Walking Dead which got I think around 12 Mil, those numebrs arent that bad at all smile.gif The show has been getting increasingly better ratings ever since the Season 1 finale and averaging somewhere in the 3 mil mark. I believe it was the most viewed episode ratings wise as well.....

All tis on top of being one of the most pirated shows on TV (premiere had over 1 million download according to Torrentfreak earlier in the week)....

wait a minute - I know some folks on here probably LOVE Walking Dead, but a blood fest hack up a zombie show that requires basically no skill to write or act in is TRIPLE the ratings of a very heady and complicated show that drips with drama and acting talent?

This is why we can't have nice things mother!
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post

wait a minute - I know some folks on here probably LOVE Walking Dead, but a blood fest hack up a zombie show that requires basically no skill to write or act in is TRIPLE the ratings of a very heady and complicated show that drips with drama and acting talent?

This is why we can't have nice things mother!

Have you even watched the show? by your discription I would be guessing no...TWD is far from the normal "zombie" movie and the zombies are more of a backdrop to the story of those living in the zombie infested world......to say that it takes no skill to write or act in just proves my earlier point.....While I prefer GoT there is a REASOn TWD is so highly rated and it isnt becasue all they do is hack up zombies (becasue thats far from the only thing they do).....

Also the fact that AMC is on "regular" cable rather than a subscription service helps as well.....
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you aren't trying to compare ratings of a show on basic cable vs. one on premium cable are you?? far different distributions...
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post

wait a minute - I know some folks on here probably LOVE Walking Dead, but a blood fest hack up a zombie show that requires basically no skill to write or act in is TRIPLE the ratings of a very heady and complicated show that drips with drama and acting talent?

This is why we can't have nice things mother!

I like both shows, but you have to realize that TWD is on AMC which is a "free" channel versus GoT which is on a Premium Channel, so the former is going to have a larger potential viewer base to begin with. I don't subscribe to HBO, so I saw the first season of GoT on DVD earlier this year and had marathon viewing nights for the second season last week when Comcast made it available for free during its Watchathon. Now I have to figure out how to watch season 3 without having to wait.

Oh, and BTW, TWD is not just a Zombie hackfest just as GoT is not just about Dragons and sword fights. As a matter of fact, zombies did not factor into the finale of TWD until the very end of the show.
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Originally Posted by hooked01 View Post

Now I have to figure out how to watch season 3 without having to wait.

If you know somebody who subscribes to HBO maybe you can use their HBO Go account. My daughter has DirecTV and lets me use her HBO Go account to stream GoT at home (or at work wink.gif).
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

If you know somebody who subscribes to HBO maybe you can use their HBO Go account. My daughter has DirecTV and lets me use her HBO Go account to stream GoT at home (or at work wink.gif).

Thanks for the suggestion. I was thinking the same thing. My in-laws have the extended package on Comcast, so I was going to ask them. Of course, I'll probably have to set up their online account since they probably have no clue that the Internet viewing is available!
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Sorry, no I don't watch Walking Dead - I am going with my description based on the commercials - which feature a lot of blood and gore and ... zombies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUX3U5qrEPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrIKLBBRbeA

Good point about basic cable vs. pay channels though. That shows just how good GoT is doing.
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post

Sorry, no I don't watch Walking Dead - I am going with my description based on the commercials - which feature a lot of blood and gore and ... zombies.

Well what do you expect? The trailers to show just people sitting around being unwashed and depressed?

Best to pass judgment on something after you have seen it. Unless of course you are a member of the PTC, in which case criticizing the content of a show you've never seen is one of the rules.
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post

Sorry, no I don't watch Walking Dead - I am going with my description based on the commercials - which feature a lot of blood and gore and ... zombies.
A commercial could easily be made about GOT featuring a lot of blood and gore and sex.
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I like The Walking Dead too but realize that, despite how much fun it is, it is really dumb. In stark contrast, Game of Thrones is a beautifully written presentation of complex themes, probably the most expensively produced show on television, and has the best ensemble cast this side of Mad Men.
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Originally Posted by RobertR View Post

A commercial could easily be made about GOT featuring a lot of blood and gore and sex.

GoT also has its own walking dead, north of the Wall
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Originally Posted by RobertR View Post

A commercial could easily be made about GOT featuring a lot of blood and gore and sex.

That's Spartacus. And that's why I only watched 2 episodes.

GoT trailers featured great drama and a web of plot complexity with personal and political struggles. That's what pulled me in. (plus the books were acclaimed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpJYNVhGf1s

There a few sword fights at the end, but by in large that trailer plays up the drama and acting quality (as well as elaborate costuming and decoration). After Rome, I was craving something of this quality, and I was not disappointed.

Anyhoo - good for Walking Dead and it's fans. I just would like a show of GoT's quality to climb it's way to the top of the ratings because it deserves it imo. When you rotate directors like this show does (and Boardwalk Empire), it really lets the story pour out with a new flavor each week, whereas some of the weaker shows feel recycled even though the story may technically be moving along.
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I like The Walking Dead too but realize that, despite how much fun it is, it is really dumb. In stark contrast, Game of Thrones is a beautifully written presentation of complex themes, probably the most expensively produced show on television, and has the best ensemble cast this side of Mad Men.

True, but to say that TWD requires no skill to act in or write is just blatant ignorance and quite insulting considering some of the actors on that show have demonstrably great acting chops.

I would be quite happy to see Lennie James, Michael Rooker or Pruitt Taylor Vince turn up on GoT at some point.
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

True, but to say that TWD requires no skill to act in or write is just blatant ignorance and quite insulting considering some of the actors on that show have demonstrably great acting chops.

I would be quite happy to see Lennie James, Michael Rooker or Pruitt Taylor Vince turn up on GoT at some point.

Just ask yourself which show they'd rather appear on. I think that was the thrust of my point. I'll redact the entire shredding of the zombie genre if it helps. Never been a fan (nor of Dungeons and Dragons stuff either). I'll stop before I get off on a tangent involving Honey Boo Boo ratings.
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post

That's Spartacus. And that's why I only watched 2 episodes.

GoT trailers featured great drama and a web of plot complexity with personal and political struggles. That's what pulled me in. (plus the books were acclaimed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpJYNVhGf1s

There a few sword fights at the end, but by in large that trailer plays up the drama and acting quality (as well as elaborate costuming and decoration). After Rome, I was craving something of this quality, and I was not disappointed.

Anyhoo - good for Walking Dead and it's fans. I just would like a show of GoT's quality to climb it's way to the top of the ratings because it deserves it imo. When you rotate directors like this show does (and Boardwalk Empire), it really lets the story pour out with a new flavor each week, whereas some of the weaker shows feel recycled even though the story may technically be moving along.

Youll never see an Premium cable show climb to the top of the ratings unless it has mass broad appeal (Sopranos and even that was pushing it).......Ratings while they matter, dont matter as much with the Premium networks since they dont count on add dollars from commercials sold during the show....That is why Game Of Thrones can get by with 3-4 million viewers and not get cancelled......
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post


Just ask yourself which show they'd rather appear on. I think that was the thrust of my point. I'll redact the entire shredding of the zombie genre if it helps. Never been a fan (nor of Dungeons and Dragons stuff either). I'll stop before I get off on a tangent involving Honey Boo Boo ratings.

 

I have the exact same opinion on that stuff, but you should give The Walking Dead a chance for the same reason you gave Game of Thrones a chance.   GoT has zombies, dungeons AND dragons, yet its still awesome.  

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