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post #2371 of 3195
Prawn...you need to be connected to a wired/wireless network. If you have a wireless network in your house you will need to connect the receiver via an network adapter (pioneer has one, or you can purchase one like the Netgear WCN2001). You have to "plug" the adapter via an ethernet cable into the receiver's ethernet port.
post #2372 of 3195
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Originally Posted by hockeylifer View Post

Prawn...you need to be connected to a wired/wireless network. If you have a wireless network in your house you will need to connect the receiver via an network adapter (pioneer has one, or you can purchase one like the Netgear WCN2001). You have to "plug" the adapter via an ethernet cable into the receiver's ethernet port.


My 1120k is connected to the network via a wired connection. How do i stream music from my macbook pro or the iphone?
post #2373 of 3195
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Originally Posted by hockeylifer View Post

1. Professor Chris...once again thank you very much!!! I'm telling you, I feel like I need to pay you for tutoring me. Awesome.

2. Did not realize the dB scale was logarithmic but it totally makes sense the way you have explained it.

3. Regarding the flip side, so I guess loudness on the 1121 is really not an issue...it's more about how the speaker handles the power (?) from the receiver and how that registers to a listener's ears (meaning, if he or she subjectively thinks it sounds good). Does that make sense?

you are welcome... no problem at all, we all had to learn at one time, and many people helped me along the way...

yup... you've basically got it... as long as you aren't clipping or putting the avr into thermal protection (i.e. it shuts down), you are good to go...
post #2374 of 3195
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Originally Posted by prawn_sandwich View Post

My 1120k is connected to the network via a wired connection. How do i stream music from my macbook pro or the iphone?

You should notice an airplay icon (looks like a square with a triangle) within the music app (and probably iTunes on your computer). Click that and you can choose where your audio goes. You should see VSX-1121 as an option. Click it and HMG will start up and your receiver will start playing your music.

I honestly think I have no more use for a CD player. Such a killer invention.
post #2375 of 3195
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Originally Posted by millerrh View Post

You should notice an airplay icon (looks like a square with a triangle) within the music app (and probably iTunes on your computer). Click that and you can choose where your audio goes. You should see VSX-1121 as an option. Click it and HMG will start up and your receiver will start playing your music.

I honestly think I have no more use for a CD player. Such a killer invention.

I do not get an airplay icon by default in itunes. I downloaded air player for the mac and i see the icon but cannot see my 1120 receiver
post #2376 of 3195
Just get Mirage speakers on sale now on Vann they are incredible, you can get Mirage OMD15 main and center plus 2 surround speakers around $1500 includes shipping.
Thank me later
post #2377 of 3195
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Originally Posted by prawn_sandwich View Post

I do not get an airplay icon by default in itunes. I downloaded air player for the mac and i see the icon but cannot see my 1120 receiver

A lot of people have had some issues like this that they end up tracing to either firewall settings or a bad router. Since you're on a Mac, it's probably not the firewall thing. Not sure what to tell you, but it is probably related to how your network is set up.

I'm on a Mac too using Apple's Airport Extreme as my router and have the 1121 plugged into an Airport Express (which connects to my wifi and provides an Ethernet port). No problems with this setup for me. It just works out of the box.
post #2378 of 3195
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Originally Posted by millerrh View Post

A lot of people have had some issues like this that they end up tracing to either firewall settings or a bad router. Since you're on a Mac, it's probably not the firewall thing. Not sure what to tell you, but it is probably related to how your network is set up.

I'm on a Mac too using Apple's Airport Extreme as my router and have the 1121 plugged into an Airport Express (which connects to my wifi and provides an Ethernet port). No problems with this setup for me. It just works out of the box.

I have the 1120k and not the 1121k. Could that be an issue?
post #2379 of 3195
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Originally Posted by doublej9886 View Post

Yea I was not impressed with with 2012 line-up. Make me wonder if they will do something different with the Elites for 2012.

Now I'm thinking about getting an 1121 while the price has gone down.

Has anyone tried the new iPad + airplay with the 1121?

I just bought the new ipad a half hour ago. I'll report back later. It works great with my droid though. To the other poster - yes, you can multi-task while airplay is going.
post #2380 of 3195
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Originally Posted by prawn_sandwich View Post

I have the 1120k and not the 1121k. Could that be an issue?

Does the 1120 have AirPlay? If so it should work the same way.
post #2381 of 3195
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Originally Posted by Salacak View Post

Just get Mirage speakers on sale now on Vann they are incredible, you can get Mirage OMD15 main and center plus 2 surround speakers around $1500 includes shipping.
Thank me later

I've got a 7.1 mirage nanosat set up that I need to sell. Anyone interested just pm me.
post #2382 of 3195
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Originally Posted by prawn_sandwich View Post

Poor choice by Pioneer by making their top of the line receiver lower on power, losing the THX certification and still having the 1 yr warranty.
I surely will not be upgrading my 1120k to the 1122 receiver.

i just wish they came out with deals on their Elite receivers.

Power spec of 1121-K was a mistake by Pioneer. They gave up too much for too little in 2011 which their 2012 offering has proven.

1121-K from amp point of views is identical to VSX-52 (their second best Elite model in 2011). How can one offer the mainstream AVR line equal in audio performance to top Elite model? They probably have dismissal sales of VSX-52 because of the 1121. They have realized their mistake and now reconfiguring their line for 2012.
921 is gone as well and 1122 basically is equal to 1021 but video processing is better (same as 1121-K).
So 1122 is basically a 1021 with better video processing.

I think 1121 is great deal if you are looking for Elite audio performance at a bargain.
I am also expecting they will have much more significant differences between standard line vs Elite line in 2012 after the 2011 debacle.
post #2383 of 3195
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Originally Posted by millerrh View Post

Does the 1120 have AirPlay? If so it should work the same way.

I think airplay is not available in 1120 pls check the manual for 1120k.
post #2384 of 3195
Is there a real issue with running Martin Logan Motion 12's ?

The user manual says it can do 4,6, or 8 ohm load ?

Thanks
post #2385 of 3195
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Originally Posted by iafzal View Post


Power spec of 1121-K was a mistake by Pioneer. They gave up too much for too little in 2011 which their 2012 offering has proven.

1121-K from amp point of views is identical to VSX-52 (their second best Elite model in 2011). How can one offer the mainstream AVR line equal in audio performance to top Elite model? They probably have dismissal sales of VSX-52 because of the 1121. They have realized their mistake and now reconfiguring their line for 2012.
921 is gone as well and 1122 basically is equal to 1021 but video processing is better (same as 1121-K).
So 1122 is basically a 1021 with better video processing.

I think 1121 is great deal if you are looking for Elite audio performance at a bargain.
I am also expecting they will have much more significant differences between standard line vs Elite line in 2012 after the 2011 debacle.

+1

When I did my research before buying last year, I noticed the 1121 was nearly IDENTICAL to the elite 52/53 with only a couple of extremely minor differences, such as two hdmi outs.

There were three things that convinced me it was the same as when a car company makes the same car and badges it under two different brands (think ford/Lincoln for example): first, the manufacturing location of the 1121 was the same as the elite line - Malaysia. All Elite receivers are made in Malaysia, all regular lineup are made in China - except the 1121. Second, all avrs - both regular lineup and Elite lineup had video's on the website giving a tutorial about that specific model - except the 1121. Why no video on the 1121? Because it would have been the same video as the 52/53! Lastly, the back panel layout of the 1121 was identical to the 52/53 - and didn't look anything like the regular lineups back panel.

Looking at the new 1122 - it's now made in China - just like the rest of the regular lineup. The entire elite lineup is still made in Malaysia.

Also to note: in my profession, I've been to and worked with companies in China. It is a very cheap economy and they are known to make bare bones consumer goods. This is NOT the case with Malaysia or Taiwan. They have very skilled labor and a much better economy. Many companies that outsource electronic components will go to Taiwan or Malaysia for higher quality products that require more skilled labor. Trust me, I've personally been there and experienced it, first hand.

My conclusion, with 99.9999% confidence, was that the 1121 was in fact an elite at less than a third of the price. Clearly Pioneer corrected this huge mistake this year.
post #2386 of 3195
Hi everyone. I am considering vsx 1121 k but I haven't done my homework on it (very slow Internet connection where I am for couple days). I was looking to buy onkyo nr609 and want to know how the two compare. Actually if you can tell me the compatible denon and onkyo models to vsx 1121 k that would help me make a decision. Thanks
post #2387 of 3195
Hey! Just got this on a great deal on an online site to replace my Denon 3803...I love my Denon but am excited to be able to have true hd and dts-ma. I also just got the new iPad and am excited to have some functionality with AirPlay, etc. just hope that I don't miss the sound of my Denon! I am currently using a 58" Samsung plasma, it's a 650 model, but don't remember the exact model right now. I also have the onix rockets 550 mkii fronts and a Bigfoot center, which I love. I also have an SVS sub...got it back in 2005...they called it the PB2+ at that time. It's the one with 2 12" woofers and the 900 watt amp, and then I just have some no name in ceiling surrounds. Love my system now, but just hope that I like the sound as much from the Pioneer as I do my Denon!
post #2388 of 3195
FYI, Newegg has the 1121 on sale for $399 through 3/18. Use promo code EMCYTZT1325 at checkout
post #2389 of 3195
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Originally Posted by prawn_sandwich View Post

Poor choice by Pioneer by making their top of the line receiver lower on power, losing the THX certification and still having the 1 yr warranty.
I surely will not be upgrading my 1120k to the 1122 receiver.

i just wish they came out with deals on their Elite receivers.

- it's not a top of the line receiver...

- you do realize that the power difference (by spec anyway) that you are so worried about doesn't amount to a hill of beans, correct?

- i would wager a large sum that they dropped the thx certification merely because they no longer wanted to pay for it...
post #2390 of 3195
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Originally Posted by jkkwaz View Post

Hey! Just got this on a great deal on an online site to replace my Denon 3803...I love my Denon but am excited to be able to have true hd and dts-ma. I also just got the new iPad and am excited to have some functionality with AirPlay, etc. just hope that I don't miss the sound of my Denon! I am currently using a 58" Samsung plasma, it's a 650 model, but don't remember the exact model right now. I also have the onix rockets 550 mkii fronts and a Bigfoot center, which I love. I also have an SVS sub...got it back in 2005...they called it the PB2+ at that time. It's the one with 2 12" woofers and the 900 watt amp, and then I just have some no name in ceiling surrounds. Love my system now, but just hope that I like the sound as much from the Pioneer as I do my Denon!

Any confirmation from jkkwaz or joepags that the new iPad works with AirPlay on the 1121?

I'm thinking about taking advantage of the newegg deal and upgrade from my 1020 for airplay, pre-amp out capability, thx, dlna...is it worth it? thoughts?
post #2391 of 3195
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

- it's not a top of the line receiver...

- you do realize that the power difference (by spec anyway) that you are so worried about doesn't amount to a hill of beans, correct?

- i would wager a large sum that they dropped the thx certification merely because they no longer wanted to pay for it...

Not agree that 1122 is THX certified.
1122 is clearly not anywhere close to 1121 which is THX certified.

I think 1122 is really close to 1021 from audio setup point of view and that was not THX certified so I would say 1122 is also not THX certified. So they have not taken it out for a reason in this case.
post #2392 of 3195
^^^

you may disagree if you like... it doesn't change anything that i posted...

hint: many avrs would pass thx certification if the cem was willing to pay for the label...
post #2393 of 3195
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Originally Posted by doublej9886 View Post


Any confirmation from jkkwaz or joepags that the new iPad works with AirPlay on the 1121?

Yup, confirmed. Works perfectly.
post #2394 of 3195
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Originally Posted by joepags View Post


Yup, confirmed. Works perfectly.

Awesome thanks a lot!

The 1121 is looking very, very tempting.
post #2395 of 3195
I was hoping someone could help direct me without possibly wasting money here. I currently have the Sony HT-SF470. I got it at a decent price at the time I bought my Sony NX810 and was really just bought as an upgrade to the pitiful speakers the tv had. The lack of an onscreen menu and it being 5.1 has made me want to replace the SF470. Now I am looking at going to a 7.1 setup. I saw this receiver on Newegg and thought it looked like a good buy. The question I have is, aside from the connections being different which I can obviously fix with new speaker wire, will my current Sony home theater speakers that came with the SF470 work with the VSX-1121. Will there be any power issues, too much or too little going to the speakers?
post #2396 of 3195
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by iafzal View Post

Not agree that 1122 is THX certified.
1122 is clearly not anywhere close to 1121 which is THX certified.

I think 1122 is really close to 1021 from audio setup point of view and that was not THX certified so I would say 1122 is also not THX certified. So they have not taken it out for a reason in this case.

Pioneer has changed their line up this year...according to pioneer, the 1021 is more akin to the 1122 features and pricewise. Then 1121 will be replaced by a mid tier model more akin to the feature we're used to. It's unclear if it will be called the 1222 or something else.
post #2397 of 3195
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post


Pioneer has changed their line up this year...according to pioneer, the 1021 is more akin to the 1122 features and pricewise. Then 1121 will be replaced by a mid tier model more akin to the feature we're used to. It's unclear if it will be called the 1222 or something else.

I have no idea what you're talking about. The 1021 is replaced by the "top of the line" 1122, however, the 2011 top of the line 1121 is going to be replaced by a mid tier model? Even for pioneer that makes no sense.

Pioneer just announced their 2012 lineup and there was no 1222 listed.

I'm assuming there were typos in your post.
post #2398 of 3195
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Originally Posted by joepags View Post

I'm assuming there were typos in your post.

Actually, it's rather easy... they dropped the 1121 (as of right now). Added a few features to the 1021 for 2012 and renamed it 1122. Rumor has it (according to Pioneer employee) they will introduce a higher end model later on... which would still be a middle entry receiver (reworked 1121?) compared to the entire line (including Elites).
post #2399 of 3195
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

Actually, it's rather easy... they dropped the 1121 (as of right now). Added a few features to the 1021 for 2012 and renamed it 1122. Rumor has it (according to Pioneer employee) they will introduce a higher end model later on... which would still be a middle entry receiver (reworked 1121?) compared to the entire line (including Elites).

"Including Elites" is the part that wasn't clear from the original post. Thanks for clarifying.
post #2400 of 3195
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Originally Posted by millerrh View Post


I've tried an iPad 2 with AirPlay and the 1121. No reason to think the new iPad would behave any differently. It's awesome. I never realized how cool airlpay is until I used it.

I can confirm that it works fine with the new iPad (sometimes known as iPad 3).
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