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post #2971 of 3289
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Originally Posted by evident View Post

just the standard amazon return policy i believe.
edit:
I believe the pioneer warranty applies to the receiver if it has not been registered by anyone else, so I get amazon's return policy plus the 1 year pioneer warranty.

Since this was sold to you as a used item,

I would do a lot more checking on the warranty, to be positive it was covered by Pioneer.

Amazon coverage is fine and dandy, but what happens after the 30 day coverage is up and it craps out for some reason ?

I would call Pioneer real soon and have them verify it is still covered for 1yr. as a used unit, you may be surprised at their response.

Not trying to kill a good deal for you, just trying to help you make sure it is just that.

You may have to wait until you get delivery of the unit, so you have the serial number to see if it was previously registered by someone else.
Edited by COMPUTIAC - 9/27/12 at 1:08pm
post #2972 of 3289
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Originally Posted by COMPUTIAC View Post

Since this was sold to you as a used item,
I would do a lot more checking on the warranty, to be positive it was covered by Pioneer.
Amazon coverage is fine and dandy, but what happens after the 30 day coverage is up and it craps out for some reason ?
I would call Pioneer real soon and have them verify it is still covered for 1yr. as a used unit, you may be surprised at their response.
Not trying to kill a good deal for you, just trying to help you make sure it is just that.
You may have to wait until you get delivery of the unit, so you have the serial number to see if it was previously registered by someone else.

you're right that i will need to verify with pioneer and look at the serial number before I can really confirm or not.
post #2973 of 3289
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Originally Posted by evident View Post

you're right that i will need to verify with pioneer and look at the serial number before I can really confirm or not.

I know what it is like to try to succeed when trying to score a great deal on something I really want,

But, I also know what it is really like to be bitten by a bad one also !

When putting out a large amount of $$, I would look to cover every angle available.
post #2974 of 3289
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Originally Posted by COMPUTIAC View Post

I know what it is like to try to succeed when trying to score a great deal on something I really want,
But, I also know what it is really like to be bitten by a bad one also !
When putting out a large amount of $$, I would look to cover every angle available.


so do you think i'm better off returning this and getting the SC-1222-K on sale for $599?
post #2975 of 3289
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Originally Posted by evident View Post

so do you think i'm better off returning this and getting the SC-1222-K on sale for $599?

Well, this decision is totally up to you.

If it was my hard earned $$, I would do the sensible thing(to me) and buy a brand new one. This way there is not a chance of inheriting someone else' s problem, as they must have had a good reason for returning it in the first place.
You just never know what kind of problem they had with it which can be hidden by returning it and saying something stupid like they did not like the color !
When in all reality it could have been something bad as not being on a surge protector when the power went out, then snapped back on, ending in damage which can not be seen to the common observer, until someone like you who knows what is going on with electronics and you realize there is a serious problem with no recourse to be had.

Again, its your $$, if it is possible to go for the new one, which is still on sale at newegg.com by all means do it. I don't think you will be sorry in the long run as this should be a long term investment, not a short term double purchase.



Edit: Last Dec. I purchased a Pioneer VSX-1021K from them and never had a problem at all.
Edited by COMPUTIAC - 9/27/12 at 4:40pm
post #2976 of 3289
evident,

What did you decide to do? My SC-1222-k should be here Monday and hope to everything hooked up and test it out then... can't wait. Hope it sounds as good as other high end receivers. I have Onkyo 806 in my dedicated HT and as long as it sounds just as good or better than I would be completely happy.
post #2977 of 3289
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Originally Posted by cy2354 View Post

evident,
What did you decide to do? My SC-1222-k should be here Monday and hope to everything hooked up and test it out then... can't wait. Hope it sounds as good as other high end receivers. I have Onkyo 806 in my dedicated HT and as long as it sounds just as good or better than I would be completely happy.

I ended up picking up both, since I didn't get much feedback yet. I might not have the expertise to determine which one is overall "better", but of the SC-1222-K offers most of the same features as the 1121-K and has the 1 year warranty to boot, i'll be returning the 1121-K.

Coming from a non-HDMI Pioneer Elite receiver, I can't wait to consolidate my cables and have HDMI in from all of my inputs into the receiver as well as having the connectivity features that both of these new ones offer!
post #2978 of 3289
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Originally Posted by evident View Post

I ended up picking up both, since I didn't get much feedback yet. I might not have the expertise to determine which one is overall "better", but of the SC-1222-K offers most of the same features as the 1121-K and has the 1 year warranty to boot, i'll be returning the 1121-K.
Coming from a non-HDMI Pioneer Elite receiver, I can't wait to consolidate my cables and have HDMI in from all of my inputs into the receiver as well as having the connectivity features that both of these new ones offer!

lol...both of you should be very pleased with the 1222-k ....its very close !! the 1121-k and the 1222-k the biggest change it CLASS D/3 amplification ....
post #2979 of 3289
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Originally Posted by pioneertop View Post

lol...both of you should be very pleased with the 1222-k ....its very close !! the 1121-k and the 1222-k the biggest change it CLASS D/3 amplification ....

after looking at the pics on newegg of the rear it looks like the SC-1222-K is clearly made in malaysia. Which means we can assume it should be like the 1121-K was, an elite without the elite badge?
post #2980 of 3289
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Originally Posted by evident View Post

after looking at the pics on newegg of the rear it looks like the SC-1222-K is clearly made in malaysia. Which means we can assume it should be like the 1121-K was, an elite without the elite badge?

yes...ur quite right ...the elite 61..to be honest....
post #2981 of 3289
Well, I called the repair place and my AVR is still being worked on. Seems they replaced the Amp board, and still had issues, so Pioneer is now sending them the last piece of the AVR that they can replace. Oh yeah, this is the second time I've taken it in for service...I love my prior Pioneer Elite AVR, but this one...not so much. I've had the thing since December of 2011. And, this is now over three months of that time spent in the repair shop. First repair took about 6 weeks...and this one is now on its seventh week of being in the shop. According to the repair place, once they get this last part of Pioneer, they have effectively replaced everthing inside the AVR that they can replace.

At what point does Pioneer just say "Here, take this new replacement unit instead!" to me????

I'm VERY suspicious of this model line.
post #2982 of 3289
got the sc-1222k setup so far without any glitches... my setup is pretty simple though.
post #2983 of 3289
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Originally Posted by evident View Post

got the sc-1222k setup so far without any glitches... my setup is pretty simple though.

You got it very quick !

How do you like it so far ?
post #2984 of 3289
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Originally Posted by COMPUTIAC View Post

You got it very quick !
How do you like it so far ?

It doesn't come with a hard copy manual, had to have my laptop w/ PDF of manual open to go through things. Without one you'd be lost!

Everything seems to be working seemlessly so far, buy my setup is very simple:

I have two floorstanding Infinity's (Model 1001) older than me from my father in law that's been serving me well, a cable box and a wii and PS3 that i never use, but most importantly, my laptop which i connect all the time to my TV/receiver. Before it would always be an HDMI cable straight to TV and then a mini jack to RCA to the old receiver. Now i can just plug in the HDMI cable, dial to the input and everything will be set up properly, a big plus for the wife especially. I will probably be updating my speaker setup within the next year.

I would have bought a subwoofer already, but I bit off more than i could chew a few years back and now I have a 12" subwoofer driver and 500W amplifier but no enclosure and no tools/skills/knowledge to build one. Trying to get someone to make one for me asap so i can get at least a 2.1 setup going!

One question though, and i'm not sure if this is a nitpick or "feature" related to HDMI, pioneer receivers or just this model in general, but I noticed that when I'm just listening to music from my laptop and outputting to my receiver, if i turn off my TV, my audio stops playing through the receiver and speaker and just reverts back to the laptop speakers. with my older receiver I would just power off the TV to save energy if i'm just listening to music. Can I not do this with HDMI going into the receiver or is there an option i'm missing?
Edited by evident - 10/1/12 at 9:32pm
post #2985 of 3289
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Originally Posted by evident View Post

It doesn't come with a hard copy manual, had to have my laptop w/ PDF of manual open to go through things. Without one you'd be lost!
Everything seems to be working seemlessly so far, buy my setup is very simple:
I have two floorstanding Infinity's (Model 1001) older than me from my father in law that's been serving me well, a cable box and a wii and PS3 that i never use, but most importantly, my laptop which i connect all the time to my TV/receiver. Before it would always be an HDMI cable straight to TV and then a mini jack to RCA to the old receiver. Now i can just plug in the HDMI cable, dial to the input and everything will be set up properly, a big plus for the wife especially. I will probably be updating my speaker setup within the next year.
I would have bought a subwoofer already, but I bit off more than i could chew a few years back and now I have a 12" subwoofer driver and 500W amplifier but no enclosure and no tools/skills/knowledge to build one. Trying to get someone to make one for me asap so i can get at least a 2.1 setup going!
One question though, and i'm not sure if this is a nitpick or "feature" related to HDMI, pioneer receivers or just this model in general, but I noticed that when I'm just listening to music from my laptop and outputting to my receiver, if i turn off my TV, my audio stops playing through the receiver and speaker and just reverts back to the laptop speakers. with my older receiver I would just power off the TV to save energy if i'm just listening to music. Can I not do this with HDMI going into the receiver or is there an option i'm missing?

I think you have to switch the HDMI input from TV to which source the music is coming from. There should be only one HDMI-Out going to the TV.

Mind you,I have the VSX-1021K, might, might not be the same.
post #2986 of 3289
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Originally Posted by evident View Post

One question though, and i'm not sure if this is a nitpick or "feature" related to HDMI, pioneer receivers or just this model in general, but I noticed that when I'm just listening to music from my laptop and outputting to my receiver, if i turn off my TV, my audio stops playing through the receiver and speaker and just reverts back to the laptop speakers. with my older receiver I would just power off the TV to save energy if i'm just listening to music. Can I not do this with HDMI going into the receiver or is there an option i'm missing?

It almost sounds like your HDMI (CEC) control is turned on. You may want to fool with those settings. You should definitely be able to listen to your laptop without the TV on. It could be a handshake HDMI thing as well. I'd suggest turning your AVR off and TV off, leaving your laptop plugged in HDMI and then turn only the AVR back on.
post #2987 of 3289
One question though, and i'm not sure if this is a nitpick or "feature" related to HDMI, pioneer receivers or just this model in general, but I noticed that when I'm just listening to music from my laptop and outputting to my receiver, if i turn off my TV, my audio stops playing through the receiver and speaker and just reverts back to the laptop speakers. with my older receiver I would just power off the TV to save energy if i'm just listening to music. Can I not do this with HDMI going into the receiver or is there an option i'm missing?

it sounds..like you have HDMI control (on)....if thats the case you use the....... tv to turn on /off the receiver....if you use a analog input for ur laptop..the receiver should stay on ..but if you use a hdmi for ur laptop..than the receiver will power off as well when your tv is off ....am not sure how you have your laptop input is ? . but this is what to do ..if you want to use your tv to power the receiver then keep the HDMI control (on) ...and use a analog input for the laptop....so that when you power off your tv the receiver will stay on....biggrin.gif
post #2988 of 3289
Good Morning,

I have read the posts about sound issues and would like to get some insights into what I have happening now.

My VSX-1121-K recently started having no sound from DirecTV via HDMI (the DVR port).

I have everything setup with a harmony remote and it will display the speakers as it looks like it's getting sound information.

1. If I unplug the DirecTV and plug it into another HDMI port I get sound and audio
2. If I plug something else into the DVR port that was not working it still does not work, until I power it off and power it back on it will work normally.
3. If I go into the HOME menu on the Receiver and navigate to speaker level and enter it and then back out of it I will regain sound.

Does this sound like a DirecTV issue with the handshake? Or is it something more. I do not have ALC or HDMI control turned on, and this only happens sometimes...

Thanks for your time,

k
post #2989 of 3289
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Originally Posted by k_ozz View Post

Good Morning,
I have read the posts about sound issues and would like to get some insights into what I have happening now.
My VSX-1121-K recently started having no sound from DirecTV via HDMI (the DVR port).
I have everything setup with a harmony remote and it will display the speakers as it looks like it's getting sound information.
1. If I unplug the DirecTV and plug it into another HDMI port I get sound and audio
2. If I plug something else into the DVR port that was not working it still does not work, until I power it off and power it back on it will work normally.
3. If I go into the HOME menu on the Receiver and navigate to speaker level and enter it and then back out of it I will regain sound.
Does this sound like a DirecTV issue with the handshake? Or is it something more. I do not have ALC or HDMI control turned on, and this only happens sometimes...
Thanks for your time,
k

It might be the Simplink not connecting properly.

Be positive the Harmony is set up right.
post #2990 of 3289
A quick question about the VSX-1120 vs the VSX-1121.

Here is my setup. AVR currently is the HK AVR247. I have a Velodyne 12" Sub and 5 Cerwin-Vega satellite speakers. All of this sounds very good, but is lacking in HDMI ports and I'm getting the bug.

All my use is video related. I have (2) HR24 DirecTV HDDVDs, AppleTV2, Sony BluRay and Toshiba HDDVD. I do not use this rig for playing just music or the radio. Again everything is video with sound related.

I see that both the VSX-1120 and VSX-1121 are THX certified, with the 1121 adding a bunch of things I don't care about. But looking at the HT specs on the VSX-52 which is a similar product to the 1121, and the HT specs on the 1120, there is a big power difference between the tested amounts, almost double. Given THX and the 1120's reputation, would it be more than good enough compared to the 1121??

thanks.
post #2991 of 3289
Help! My VSX-1121 doesnt like me anymore!

I am wondering if any of you have seen this issue. I have a VSX-1121 which I purchased back in January and I absolutely love this thing. I have DirecTV, Apple TV2 and my PS-3 hooked all connected through the 1121, all of which are protected by UPS. Today I came in to watch DirecTV and the unit would not display any video or play audio, regardless of input (Direct, PS3, ATV all fail). I tried bypassing the unit by unplugging the TV output from the Pioneer and plugging it into the DirecTV and viola, I got a picture, so I know its the Pioneer. In terms of troubleshooting I've tried the following things:

* Bypassed the Pioneer and plugged the TV into the DirecTV (as described above).
* Plugged the PS-3 directly into the TV and again validated the Pioneer seems to be at fault.
* Turned off and unplugged the 1121 as well as all connected devices.
* Performed the "Reset" by holding down the "Enter" button while powering on via the Standby.

Everything has failed, does anyone have any suggestions? Also, the UPS appears fine and I dont recall any recent power events. I use this every day for TV and treat it nice so its a complete mystery as to why it doesnt like me today! confused.gif

Any help would be sincerly appreciated!

Thanks!
post #2992 of 3289
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Originally Posted by marmyk1 View Post

the speaker is apparently 4 to 8 Ohms witch is confusing, should i change the setting to 6 Ohm or leave it at 8 ohm.
I have a pair of Bose 301 (rated 4-8 ohms) and have kept the receiver setting at 8 ohms.
Working fine for the last 8 months.
post #2993 of 3289
HDMI very fickle ! Unplug every single HDMI cable both in and outputs ,cycle power and when pioneer is off,plug back all cables ,this should work.
post #2994 of 3289
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Originally Posted by nuticles View Post

Help! My VSX-1121 doesnt like me anymore!
I am wondering if any of you have seen this issue. I have a VSX-1121 which I purchased back in January and I absolutely love this thing. I have DirecTV, Apple TV2 and my PS-3 hooked all connected through the 1121, all of which are protected by UPS. Today I came in to watch DirecTV and the unit would not display any video or play audio, regardless of input (Direct, PS3, ATV all fail). I tried bypassing the unit by unplugging the TV output from the Pioneer and plugging it into the DirecTV and viola, I got a picture, so I know its the Pioneer. In terms of troubleshooting I've tried the following things:
* Bypassed the Pioneer and plugged the TV into the DirecTV (as described above).
* Plugged the PS-3 directly into the TV and again validated the Pioneer seems to be at fault.
* Turned off and unplugged the 1121 as well as all connected devices.
* Performed the "Reset" by holding down the "Enter" button while powering on via the Standby.
Everything has failed, does anyone have any suggestions? Also, the UPS appears fine and I dont recall any recent power events. I use this every day for TV and treat it nice so its a complete mystery as to why it doesnt like me today! confused.gif
Any help would be sincerly appreciated!
Thanks!

THIS HAPPEND to me recently ..what i did is to...unplug the 1121-k from the power unit ..wait a few sec's.....then plug it back in....it work for me any input came back on......
post #2995 of 3289
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Originally Posted by nuticles View Post

Help! My VSX-1121 doesnt like me anymore!
I am wondering if any of you have seen this issue. I have a VSX-1121 which I purchased back in January and I absolutely love this thing. I have DirecTV, Apple TV2 and my PS-3 hooked all connected through the 1121, all of which are protected by UPS. Today I came in to watch DirecTV and the unit would not display any video or play audio, regardless of input (Direct, PS3, ATV all fail). I tried bypassing the unit by unplugging the TV output from the Pioneer and plugging it into the DirecTV and viola, I got a picture, so I know its the Pioneer. In terms of troubleshooting I've tried the following things:
* Bypassed the Pioneer and plugged the TV into the DirecTV (as described above).
* Plugged the PS-3 directly into the TV and again validated the Pioneer seems to be at fault.
* Turned off and unplugged the 1121 as well as all connected devices.
* Performed the "Reset" by holding down the "Enter" button while powering on via the Standby.
Everything has failed, does anyone have any suggestions? Also, the UPS appears fine and I dont recall any recent power events. I use this every day for TV and treat it nice so its a complete mystery as to why it doesnt like me today! confused.gif
Any help would be sincerly appreciated!
Thanks!

I agree with the person who said HDMI is fickle. Really sensitive. About once every two months or so I get it where I hear sound but don't see a picture when I switch inputs. Apparently the HDMI handshake didn't go as planned. I've learned that I can turn off the TV set wait a couple seconds and turn it back on and they re-establish the handshake/connection and works fine. Your situation may be similar to this and you might just need to find out what to turn off and back on to get things working again.
post #2996 of 3289
Thanks folks for the help it looks like its fixed without having to rebox this and call Pioneer or lug it to a repair shop!!!! smile.gif

I had left the VSX-1121 unplugged overnight mainly since I was frustrated. Before getting back to working on it I read your replies about HDMI being fickle so I followed your instructions. I unplugged all of the HDMI Inputs and Outputs out of the Pioneer, plugged them back in and turned it on and viola! It was back. Hopefully this is not coming back but if it does I am amred with a fix.

Pioneertop / Jojo57 / Boomster -- Thanks for the support.

Thanks smile.gif
Edited by nuticles - 10/10/12 at 3:14pm
post #2997 of 3289
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Originally Posted by nuticles View Post

Thanks folks for the help it looks like its fixed without having to rebox this and call Pioneer or lug it to a repair shop!!!! smile.gif
I had left the VSX-1121 unplugged overnight mainly since I was frustrated. Before getting back to working on it I read your replies about HDMI being fickle so I followed your instructions. I unplugged all of the HDMI Inputs and Outputs out of the Pioneer, plugged them back in and turned it on and viola! It was back. Hopefully this is not coming back but if it does I am amred with a fix.
Pioneertop / Jojo57 / Boomster -- Thanks for the support.
Thanks smile.gif

lol..thats good but let me warn you in advance ..it may happen again in the future .....it did with me .....
post #2998 of 3289
I had a feeling someone was going to say that! How do we determine if this is just an occational glitch or the unit is starting to hose? I do have aproximately 3 months of warranty so if something is starting to go I'd rather call them. I guess I could call them and see if its a known issue. I'm assuming its ok and just like any other technology which leverages handshakes, sometimes you just gotta reboot!

Thanks again buddy smile.gif
post #2999 of 3289
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Originally Posted by nuticles View Post

I had a feeling someone was going to say that! How do we determine if this is just an occational glitch or the unit is starting to hose? I do have aproximately 3 months of warranty so if something is starting to go I'd rather call them. I guess I could call them and see if its a known issue. I'm assuming its ok and just like any other technology which leverages handshakes, sometimes you just gotta reboot!
Thanks again buddy smile.gif

yeah..you art not to worry about it...really ......
post #3000 of 3289
I will again take your advice. It has been rock solid for the past few days so things are looking great.

Nice setup you have BTW. Especially that plasma - SWEET! smile.gif
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