Originally Posted by drewwho
I almost wish I could get the EU version, since I know 24p is fixed there
Bad idea. When you will know more about the full "24p" story, you will understand why
The main problem is: most people don't know enough about some (perverse) things like the "24p", but that thing is understandable. But if they don't like to investigate and spend time to learn (starting by reading carefully the PDF users manuals of their TV and players) they often do wrong things, like I think happened to kdburby (returned his set)
I had a look at his posts (you posted): in his second post he said: "Returning mine. Never got the Film Mode to work
". And then other people start to speak about that thing (film mode OSD option), and about an OSD option to activate the LG "real cinema 3:3", and so on.
Well, that was only a wast of time. The "film mode" option on the LGs plasma (all) has nothing to do with the 24p support. That option works only when the source is interlaced like, for example, some/all TV channel (SD or HD 480i/576i/1080i), otherwise it is greyed out (and that's right). When you set it ON, the processor of the TV will start to try to detect film mode flags coming from the source togheter with the contents (the images), and when it detects them it applyes the right cadence and you get the best deinterlacing (and so, the best image quality from all the interlaced sources). In the E.U., all the LGs where really good on doing that video-processing (film mode) starting from the 2008 plasma serie, as well as the samsung plasma starting from the 2010 series (at least), while all the panasonic plasma always failed on that (!). It has been reported on many reviews, and I have explained that things more than one time in this site (and many
times on italian forums, because people don't read carefully the user manual and the reviews). BTW
: with the LGs, when the source is interlaced I suggest you to always set the "film mode" option to ON, because when the contents are not "film flagged" (video contents) it works good in any case. (ps. I hope you know that there are 2 "standard" for the contents: "film" and "video").
Speaking about the LG "Real cinema
" ("24p"), from what I know on the LG plasma it works automatically (and it was working very good on the 2010 models - ask to Chad B. about that, or read his reviews). There are no option you must set on the OSD to get it working. Different thing is on panasonic and samsung plasma, and I guess that is why some people got confused. BTW, The right/best way to manage that thing is the LG approach: why you should set an option just to tell the TV that the incoming signal is the 1080p/24 standard? The video-processing of the TV can/could detect it in the same way it does for all the other video standard (480p, 720p, etc), and apply what that standard needs (the right cadence, frequency, and so on). The problem is: not all video-processing (or video processor chips) are able to do that thing automatically and, second, some of them (panasonic and samsung) are giving you some option from the OSD because (in case you set them to ON) they use it to do frame interpolation, like the "famous" IFC from panasonic (and the "soap opera" effect you get with it).
So, at the end, in that case people were doing difficult what, instead, was easy: looking for something that it is not needed on the LG plasma
But.. hey.. what i told you until now has nothing to do with the "real" 24p "story", which could be more difficult to understand (and to explain for me, because my english in not so good), and long if you want to go "in depth". Lets start in this way: when you don't get a smooth reproduction from a 1080p/24 source, it could be because of:
1. your TV don't support both the two 24p standard: 23.976p (U.S.) and the "real" 24p (24 frames exactly).
2. your BD player or mediaplayer don't support both the two 24p standard (see above), and don't let you to choose the video standard you want/need.
3. you don't know the above mentioned things, and that there are BD (or BD ISO or MKV 1080p/24) which output is 23.976p and others which the output is 24p. And so, if all
your hardware is not setup properly, or/and it don't support all we need to get always a smooth reproduction, you get in trouble.
A lot of things to know. The problem is that there are 2 "24p" standard, not only 1 (!), and there is still something I would like to get sorted out about that story, but to try to do it I must buy a BD writer for my pc and some BD movies directly from U.S. (same titles I bought here in Italy). Then, buy and learn some special software and make comparisons on data. It take times, but I know I'll do that during the next months.
I bet my 2 cents that, in all this 24p mess, the U.S. people can have less problems, expecially if, to watch movies, you are using a mediaplayer instead of a normal BD player. Why? Because (for example) most of the movies you find on internet are 23.976p and not 24p. (and i guess that is because they came from U.S. people). To know more about this 24p thing, please read carefully
this thread, it is not so long (5 short pages): http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=40035
- inside it you will find same useful post.
ps. CNET (U.S.) LG plasma 2011 reviews available?
Going to have dinner now, cheers