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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

90% of my viewing is on my 50 inch Panasonic Plasma HDTV. But there is some stuff that isn't available anyplace but Youtube that I like to watch on my 19 inch LCD computer monitor. But I don't understand how people watch movies on a 3 inch cell phone screen.

95% of my Viewing is via an Olivia 36" LCD HDTV that I purchased on the National Day of Insanity (That's the day after Thanksgiving - "Black Friday" for those of you in Rio Linda! ) in 2007. The other 5% is on my Panasonic Portable DVD Player that I take with me on Vacation along with about 3 Dozen DVDs of my Favorate TV Shows and Movies so that I have something to watch while Traveling to and from my Destination (It's nice to have something to watch if the In-Flight Movie is not to your liking, or there's no Entertainment at all, also you don't have to put up with having CNN or MSNBC rammed down your throat while you wait for your flight ) and when I'm in my Hotel Room. (The Hotel Cable Systems are worse than the Residentials, IMO ).
post #1172 of 1689
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Originally Posted by krisbee View Post

And can't you get that on the Roku? I am not sure - I am not a sports guy... I think it is like $200, though...

He can get mlb.tv on his Roku player, but his local team is blacked out on mlb.tv
post #1173 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Tom Wellman View Post

He can get mlb.tv on his Roku player, but his local team is blacked out on mlb.tv

I find that to be a dumb rule. especially for teams that are on the road. It's not like he could go to those games anyways. And there blackout area covers much more area that the 75 miles the NFL rule does. I'm 285 miles from Cincinnati as the crow flies and I'm blacked out. Ironically I'm only 210 miles form St Louis and they are not blacked out. Not that I'm a Reds fan anyways but that's just stupid.
post #1174 of 1689
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

I find that to be a dumb rule. especially for teams that are on the road. It's not like he could go to those games anyways. And there blackout area covers much more area that the 75 miles the NFL rule does. I'm 285 miles from Cincinnati as the crow flies and I'm blacked out. Ironically I'm only 210 miles form St Louis and they are not blacked out. Not that I'm a Reds fan anyways but that's just stupid.

I read somewhere there's a group that has filed suit in Federal Court in an attempt to get the Blackout Rules that many Sports Leagues use OVERTURNED on the grounds of violating Anti-Trust Laws or possibly even the Constitution. I have to admit it's a longshot, but imagine what may happen if they win their Court Case!
post #1175 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

90% of my viewing is on my 50 inch Panasonic Plasma HDTV. But there is some stuff that isn't available anyplace but Youtube that I like to watch on my 19 inch LCD computer monitor. But I don't understand how people watch movies on a 3 inch cell phone screen.

You would understand if that was your only option. In my job I am often stuck for 6 or 7 hours with no computer, no TV, and pretty much nothing to do except for hourly rounds (overnight security watches). If it weren't for my Kindle and streaming Netflix on my 4.3" Android phone I would likely go insane.
post #1176 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Buckeye911 View Post

You would understand if that was your only option. In my job I am often stuck for 6 or 7 hours with no computer, no TV, and pretty much nothing to do except for hourly rounds (overnight security watches). If it weren't for my Kindle and streaming Netflix on my 4.3" Android phone I would likely go insane.

On most jobs people have to spend their time working.
post #1177 of 1689
Over-the-Air TV Catches Second Wind, Aided by Web

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Largely relegated to obscurity decades ago, old-fashioned television broadcasts—over the airwaves and not via cable or satellite—are enjoying an unexpected revival in the digital era.

With an increased array of online-video programming now drawing viewers' attention, companies are starting to pitch consumers on complementing online video streamed from the Web with broadcast-TV signals as a way to save money on cable subscriptions.

If it gains traction, this trend could undercut part of the rationale for selling off TV spectrum in voluntary auctions, approved by Congress on Friday, aimed at freeing up spectrum for wireless broadband.

There are signs that consumers are responding. TV-antenna seller Richard Schneider of St. Louis says sales at his company are soaring. Mr. Schneider's Antennas Direct sold 70,000 antennas in January, and he expects to double last year's sales of about 600,000. That was up from 400,000 antennas in 2010.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. recently agreed to sell Mr. Schneider's antennas, the retailer confirmed Friday, joining Best Buy Co., Costco Wholesale Corp. and others.

Mr. Schneider's antennas cost from $50 to $150, and he says the typical customer saves $96 a month by "cutting the cord" on cable or satellite TV, according a survey his company conducted...

"Every time that Hulu and Netflix enhance their services, our phones light up," said Mr., Schneider, referring to two online-video services. (Hulu is an online-video service owned by Walt Disney Co., Providence Equity Partners, Hulu employees, Comcast Corp.'s NBCUniversal and News Corp. News Corp. also owns The Wall Street Journal.)
TV executives lately have warned that cable's rising subscription costs may prompt people to cut back. Indeed, in the past 18 months, the number of overall pay-TV subscribers has largely stagnated, after years of steady growth. At the same time, the number of American households wired with only broadband and broadcast TV jumped 23% to 5.1 million in the third quarter of 2011 compared with the year-earlier period, according to a recent Nielsen study.

"It's not a stretch to think that the broadcast business model will outlive that of cable," said National Association of Broadcasters spokesman Dennis Wharton. "The naysayers can talk all they want about broadcasting being a dinosaur."

The big media companies that own the major broadcast networks are generally eager to preserve the current cable-centric model. Not only do they mostly own big portfolios of cable channels; media outlets also haven't figured out how to generate advertising revenues from online outlets in the same proportion as off-line. So the shift of viewers from traditional TV to the Web could hurt ad revenues.

Mr. Schneider, the antenna seller, meanwhile, has been lately partnering with TV stations to give away antennas and spread the gospel of cord-cutting. He says that for some stations the giveaways are about increasing viewership while for others it's "out a sense of duty to their community."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...html#printMode
post #1178 of 1689
Is Watching TV Over the Airwaves Making a Comeback?

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That people want to cut the cable is understandable: Cable's expensive, the service is terrible, and streaming content services like Netflix and Hulu provide you with more than enough to watch. Rabbit ears are a perfect complement to streaming; they're inexpensive, and they let you watch a good amount of "event' programming live. Want to watch the Oscars live in HD this Sunday? You can either pay skyrocketing cable fees, or buy a cheap TV antenna and watch it all for free. I'll go with the latter, thank you very much.

http://gizmodo.com/5886860/is-watchi...ing-a-comeback
post #1179 of 1689
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post


I find that to be a dumb rule. especially for teams that are on the road. It's not like he could go to those games anyways. And there blackout area covers much more area that the 75 miles the NFL rule does. I'm 285 miles from Cincinnati as the crow flies and I'm blacked out. Ironically I'm only 210 miles form St Louis and they are not blacked out. Not that I'm a Reds fan anyways but that's just stupid.

It's not about going to the game, it's about protecting the tv rights of the local rsn or network that has paid to show games in the teams market.
post #1180 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Mike_Stuewe View Post

It's not about going to the game, it's about protecting the tv rights of the local rsn or network that has paid to show games in the teams market.

The below-listed Club(s) is within the searched home television territory, and MLB.TV is subject to blackout for all regular season live games for these Club(s):
Cincinnati Reds
Atlanta Braves


Approximate Zip Code: 38320

How is Camden, TN( which is in WEST Tennessee by the way ) the "local" market of the Cincinnati Reds? No one here, either local broadcast or cable, shows Reds games. So exactly what "rights" are being taken away?


Once again it should be a but the FANS. Give us content we are willing to pay for or we'll get other ways and you get nothing. Pretty darn simple. SOMTHING > NOTHING. Simple math.
post #1181 of 1689
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

I find that to be a dumb rule. especially for teams that are on the road. It's not like he could go to those games anyways. And there blackout area covers much more area that the 75 miles the NFL rule does. I'm 285 miles from Cincinnati as the crow flies and I'm blacked out. Ironically I'm only 210 miles form St Louis and they are not blacked out. Not that I'm a Reds fan anyways but that's just stupid.

I'm not disputing that at all, as bad as the NFL blackout rules are, MLB's blackout rules to an extent are somewhat worse. Especially if you live in area where more than one team claims a territory but one or neither of those teams actually broadcast to that territory. Two examples are Southern Nevada and the entire state of Iowa. Those regions are claimed by 6 teams in each area. And while I can't speak for Iowa, as of last season at least in Southern Nevada one could only get half of those teams on Cox Cable in Las Vegas, and with the Padres leaving Cox owned Channel 4 San Diego to FSN San Diego, I don't know if the Padres will even be broadcast in Las Vegas anymore.
post #1182 of 1689
if i could get the golf channel in hd, i'd seriously consider ditching satellite. there are other cable channels i watch quite a bit like the military channel, hgtv, and the discovery type channels but golf channel is the biggie.
post #1183 of 1689
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Originally Posted by grubadub View Post

if i could get the golf channel in hd, i'd seriously consider ditching satellite. there are other cable channels i watch quite a bit like the military channel, hgtv, and the discovery type channels but golf channel is the biggie.

What is the cable company in your area. Most cable companies have Golf Channel in HD.
post #1184 of 1689
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

What is the cable company in your area. Most cable companies have Golf Channel in HD.

yeah but ditching satellite for cable would just be a sideways move.
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Really really dumb question but I just want to verify...I only need a basic antenna to plug into the port on my HDTV to get over the air right? I know, I know! Hush. just want to make sure I don't unnecessarily spend $50 when I could buy $5 one.

Just signed up for Hulu +, but a couple shows aren't offered (on CBS). Still working on the MLB.tv route, but if nothing else, I can just watch it on my Mac. Wanting to give this no cable thing a try.
post #1186 of 1689
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Originally Posted by bpeacock22 View Post

Really really dumb question but I just want to verify...I only need a basic antenna to plug into the port on my HDTV to get over the air right? I know, I know! Hush. just want to make sure I don't unnecessarily spend $50 when I could buy $5 one.

Well, that depends on a lot of things. Where you live. Topography. Distance to the transmitters. UHF, VHF or a mixture. Multipath.

My advice has always been, "start cheap but keep receipts."
post #1187 of 1689
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Originally Posted by bpeacock22 View Post

Really really dumb question but I just want to verify...I only need a basic antenna to plug into the port on my HDTV to get over the air right? I know, I know! Hush. just want to make sure I don't unnecessarily spend $50 when I could buy $5 one.

Just signed up for Hulu +, but a couple shows aren't offered (on CBS). Still working on the MLB.tv route, but if nothing else, I can just watch it on my Mac. Wanting to give this no cable thing a try.

Go to tvfool.com and plug in your address. It'll tell you what type of antenna you need. If you post the link to your TV Fool data you'll get some advice on what you need and where to get it.

CBS has some shows they don't own (most notably The Mentalist) so Hulu can't get them.

If you're trying to watch MLB.TV on a larger screen, you'll need a fast internet connection for HD and even then it's spotty on quality and very inconsistent.
post #1188 of 1689
Get a GOOD antenna like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Antennas-Direc...dp/B000EHUE7I/

DON'T get some piece of **** RCA antenna from Walmart.

Buy that thing and point it at the direction of the broadcast towers. Problem solved. No fiddling with rabbit ears, turning dials, extending stupid little antennas that don't work. This antenna works fine inside and is better than any of those stupid rabbit ear antennas I see people buy for indoors and wonder why they have difficulty picking up channels.
post #1189 of 1689
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Originally Posted by lsilvest View Post

Go to tvfool.com and plug in your address. It'll tell you what type of antenna you need. If you post the link to your TV Fool data you'll get some advice on what you need and where to get it.

CBS has some shows they don't own (most notably The Mentalist) so Hulu can't get them.

If you're trying to watch MLB.TV on a larger screen, you'll need a fast internet connection for HD and even then it's spotty on quality and very inconsistent.

Hulu doesn't carry any CBS shows at all. Actually CBS is conspicously absent when sorting by network.
post #1190 of 1689
Why would you want to watch CBS material on Hulu anyway? I've had better clarity visuals with fogged up sunglasses in a blizzard than with Hulu's **** streaming quality.

CBS OTA on the other hand, looks great.
post #1191 of 1689
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CBS OTA on the other hand, looks great.

Except for that EYE that keeps staring at you!
post #1192 of 1689
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Originally Posted by scorpiontail60 View Post

Get a GOOD antenna like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Antennas-Direc...dp/B000EHUE7I/

DON'T get some piece of **** RCA antenna from Walmart.

Buy that thing and point it at the direction of the broadcast towers. Problem solved. No fiddling with rabbit ears, turning dials, extending stupid little antennas that don't work. This antenna works fine inside and is better than any of those stupid rabbit ear antennas I see people buy for indoors and wonder why they have difficulty picking up channels.

Thats a UHF Bowtie. If you have local channels that broadcast in the VHF range you need something else. (unless no one broadcasts in VHF anymore)
post #1193 of 1689
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Originally Posted by scorpiontail60 View Post

Why would you want to watch CBS material on Hulu anyway? I've had better clarity visuals with fogged up sunglasses in a blizzard than with Hulu's **** streaming quality.

CBS OTA on the other hand, looks great.

Well except if you live in an area like mine where everything is fringe and CBS on low-VHF. Well WBBJ does have CBS on it's 7.3 subchannel of course it's SD.
post #1194 of 1689
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Originally Posted by scorpiontail60 View Post

DON'T get some piece of **** RCA antenna from Walmart.

While I agree that most RCA stuff is complete and utter crap, the ANT751 is one of the best small high VHF/UHF antennas on the market. No idea if they sell it at Wally World, but one should not paint it with the same brush used for all the other "cheapest piece of crap we could find on the streets of Shenzhen" products marketed under the RCA name.
post #1195 of 1689
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Originally Posted by coyoteaz View Post

While I agree that most RCA stuff is complete and utter crap, the ANT751 is one of the best small high VHF/UHF antennas on the market. No idea if they sell it at Wally World, but one should not paint it with the same brush used for all the other "cheapest piece of crap we could find on the streets of Shenzhen" products marketed under the RCA name.

I gambled $10 and bought an RCA ANT121 Indoor Antenna from the corner discount store (you can buy it online for about $3 more). It works great with my 2010 LG plasma, pulling in all the locals in crisp HD, plus the subchannels. It's small and unobtrusive and took a minute to connect and find a good signal. The build quality is not going to impress anyone, but it works and it makes a solid connection. Best $10 I've spent in the last year.

(I went back and bought 3 more for my other HDTVs and it works fine for each of them too).
post #1196 of 1689
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Originally Posted by bpeacock22 View Post

Really really dumb question but I just want to verify...I only need a basic antenna to plug into the port on my HDTV to get over the air right? I know, I know! Hush. just want to make sure I don't unnecessarily spend $50 when I could buy $5 one.

Y'all are missing over the most obvious question that needs to be answered first: What is the model of your HDTV? It needs to have an ATSC tuner. Some of the older HDTVs did not have an ATSC tuner. If your TV is recent (i.e., 2005+) it will have one, and it may have one even if it is older than 2005.

This is important, because I do know people with HDTVs that they bought back in the olden days, and they can't get OTA without a STB.
post #1197 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Will2007 View Post

I gambled $10 and bought an RCA ANT121 Indoor Antenna from the corner discount store (you can buy it online for about $3 more). It works great with my 2010 LG plasma, pulling in all the locals in crisp HD, plus the subchannels. It's small and unobtrusive and took a minute to connect and find a good signal. The build quality is not going to impress anyone, but it works and it makes a solid connection. Best $10 I've spent in the last year.

(I went back and bought 3 more for my other HDTVs and it works fine for each of them too).

My mom and my sister has a pair of rabbit ears from 15 years ago that they used during the analog days. It now picks up our PBS station from 30 miles away. The rest of our channels from 8 miles away it picks them up at 100% strength.

CBS HD OTA is awesome. Its the main reason I watch The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson.
post #1198 of 1689
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Originally Posted by coyoteaz View Post

While I agree that most RCA stuff is complete and utter crap, the ANT751 is one of the best small high VHF/UHF antennas on the market.

The reason it's so good is because Winegard manufactures the ANT751.
post #1199 of 1689
wow thanks for all the great replies. but looks like everywhere I turn to try to cut cable I find reasons to keep it. I tried Hulu Plus and was satisfied with the PQ but they only send 2.0 audio. it was so awful I cancelled my free week trial 10 min after I signed up for it.

as far as MLB.tv there just doesn't appear to be a way to get proxy to work from my Mac to either my ps3 or appleTV. at least until AirPlay comes in the next Mac OS X update this summer.

They've got me trapped. Just not willing to sacrifice the audio quality or be forced to watch on my computer.
post #1200 of 1689
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Originally Posted by bpeacock22 View Post

wow thanks for all the great replies. but looks like everywhere I turn to try to cut cable I find reasons to keep it. I tried Hulu Plus and was satisfied with the PQ but they only send 2.0 audio. it was so awful I cancelled my free week trial 10 min after I signed up for it.

as far as MLB.tv there just doesn't appear to be a way to get proxy to work from my Mac to either my ps3 or appleTV. at least until AirPlay comes in the next Mac OS X update this summer.

They've got me trapped. Just not willing to sacrifice the audio quality or be forced to watch on my computer.

There's a whole section of avsforum devoted to just that.. HTPC's connected to your AVR and HDTV.
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