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post #1351 of 1689
Don't confuse him with the facts, everything should be free.
post #1352 of 1689
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Don't confuse him with the facts, everything should be free.

Why are you still in this thread? I thought you were tired of hearing about cord cutting.
post #1353 of 1689

Home Theater PC - Free OTA channels via antenna (NBC, FOX, ABC, CBS, PBS, and a bunch of subchannels like This TV) coupled with Hulu gets you most stuff for free.  You can pay for Hulu Plus ($7.99/mo) to get more programming and Netflix as well for $7.99/mo for even more.  So for $16/mo you can get just about everything you pay $90+/mo for cable other then some live sports (depends on what sports you watch) and you may have to wait for some shows to be available (some are on 30 day delay before posted online).  Fire up a web browser and get all TNT shows for free on their web site posted day of airing.  

 

Of course there are other more "shady" ways to get the programming sooner but we won't talk about those here.

 

And you can also pay per episode/season for shows via sources like iTunes, Vudu or Amazon if you so choose.

post #1354 of 1689
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Originally Posted by bonscott87 View Post

 Fire up a web browser and get all TNT shows for free on their web site posted day of airing.
 
You need to register at both TNT and TBS with a pay-tv provider account to watch full episodes.
post #1355 of 1689
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Originally Posted by mhufnagel View Post

 
You need to register at both TNT and TBS with a pay-tv provider account to watch full episodes.

 

True.  Since I have Uverse for Internet that's all I need, even if I don't actually subscribe to TV.  At least in the past anyway when I've done it.  I'm dumping the TV part of Uverse at the end of December and going back to just OTA and Internet so unless something has changed, I'm all good.  Hopefully.  :)

post #1356 of 1689
It did change. You need to have TNT and/or TBS on a cable package in order to view them online. I just tried it.
post #1357 of 1689
I'm coming up on 2 years since I cut the cord and I can say I'm 99.9% satisfied with the experience. That's dropping a bit now that ESPN3 has been moving towards requiring a TV cable/sat provider ID to watch more and more events. Also, many ESPN3 events can't be viewed at all anymore.

When I started this experiment I expected things to move that way and I expect it will continue. We adjusted our viewing habits and are still very happy at this point. We only have the "normal" OTA shows and the occasional Netflix DVD/stream, yet still struggle to watch everything we record.

Someone invited us to watch a bunch of those shows about the duck call guys.

Yeah, great TV, I really miss cable biggrin.gif
post #1358 of 1689
Out of Alabama's 13 games this year 8 of them have been on free OTA TV, 3 on ESPN, and 2 of them weren't televised. The 3 that were on ESPN I watched the replay on ESPN 3 later on. I'm going to a sports bar to watch the National Championship game and all it will cost is my dinner. Not bad to see my favorite team win the SEC and advance to the National Championship game for free. My favorite NFL team the Dallas Cowboys have been on OTA a lot this year but the way they are playing I have seen enough.
post #1359 of 1689
DirecTV has been sending me several letters a month trying to get me to subscribe. They even called me the other day and some idiot with broken English tried to tell me about a so called great deal and I just hung up on him. The other day I got a card that looked like a Christmas card in the mail. I opened it up and it said this was an exclusive inventation to join DirecTV. How greedy and desperate are these people. When will they get the hint that I'm not interested in their crappy overpriced service.
post #1360 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

DirecTV has been sending me several letters a month trying to get me to subscribe. They even called me the other day and some idiot with broken English tried to tell me about a so called great deal and I just hung up on him. The other day I got a card that looked like a Christmas card in the mail. I opened it up and it said this was an exclusive inventation to join DirecTV. How greedy and desperate are these people. When will they get the hint that I'm not interested in their crappy overpriced service.
Dude, I'm starting to wonder about you now. Sending stuff every couple of weeks is SOP for consumer service companies, nothing desperate about it. Cell providers do the same thing. If you look in the Sunday paper, you'll see ads from DirectTV and Dish Network every week. And I get letters from Comcast a few times a month and I've never subscribed to their service.

We get it, free ota tv is the greatest thing around. You're starting to remind me of reformed drug users talking about the evils of heroin. rolleyes.gif
post #1361 of 1689
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Originally Posted by mhufnagel View Post

Dude, I'm starting to wonder about you now. Sending stuff every couple of weeks is SOP for consumer service companies, nothing desperate about it. Cell providers do the same thing. If you look in the Sunday paper, you'll see ads from DirectTV and Dish Network every week. And I get letters from Comcast a few times a month and I've never subscribed to their service.
We get it, free ota tv is the greatest thing around. You're starting to remind me of reformed drug users talking about the evils of heroin. rolleyes.gif

They stopped sending me flyers ages ago. I don't know if they call me anymore either. Whenever the phone rings the first thing I do is check the Caller Id. Displays such as "Unknown Caller", "Toll-Free Number", "Private Caller" and the like are immediately relegated to my answering machine. mad.gif I have 21 Holiday Movies lined up between now and the big day, along with over 50 Holiday-Themed TV Shows on DVD. smile.gif I saw three Parades and a Concert this past weekend, I have two more Parades and two more Concerts lined up for this upcoming weekend, then some more Holiday Events lined up for the next weekend. I LOVE this time of the year! biggrin.gif

PS. I did my Xmas Shopping this past May! tongue.gif
post #1362 of 1689
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Originally Posted by mhufnagel View Post


We get it, free ota tv is the greatest thing around. You're starting to remind me of reformed drug users talking about the evils of heroin. rolleyes.gif

Free OTA TV and DVDs are the best thing around. You don't have to pay for reality shows, commercials and other bad programming. By the way, this is the thread where you read about stuff like this. rolleyes.gif

Video games are great too. This fall I've been playing my NCAA 12 single player dynasty with Alabama on the Xbox 360.
post #1363 of 1689
Rising sports programming costs could have consumers crying foul
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Nearly half of the monthly cable or satellite bill goes to sports channels. Escalating prices are triggering worries that subscribers will start walking away.

The average household already spends about $90 a month for cable or satellite TV, and nearly half of that amount pays for the sports channels packaged into most services. Massive deals for marquee sports franchises like the Dodgers and Lakers are driving those costs even higher. Over the next three years, monthly cable and satellite bills are expected to rise an average of nearly 40%, to $125, according to the market research company NPD Group.

So far, people seem willing to pay. But the escalating costs are triggering worries that, at some point, consumers will begin ditching their cable and satellite subscriptions.

"We've got runaway sports rights, runaway sports salaries and what is essentially a high tax on a lot of households that don't have a lot of interest in sports," said John Malone, the cable industry pioneer and chairman of Liberty Media. "The consumer is really getting squeezed, as is the cable operator."

A key concern is that the higher bills driven by sports are being shouldered by subscribers whether they watch sports or not. National and local sports networks typically require cable and satellite companies to make their channels available to all customers.


http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/01/business/la-fi-1202-ct-sports-cost-20121202
post #1364 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

Rising sports programming costs could have consumers crying foul

Here in Florida, Basic would go from $129.00 a month to $173.00 a month! eek.gifmad.gif

I refuse! tongue.gif
post #1365 of 1689
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Originally Posted by borntocoast View Post

Here in Florida, Basic would go from $129.00 a month to $173.00 a month! eek.gifmad.gif
I refuse! tongue.gif

I highly doubt it would go up that much. I've had the same plan for years and for both cable and internet I've been paying roughly $100/month with quite a few bells and whistles.
post #1366 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

'm going to a sports bar to watch the National Championship game and all it will cost is my dinner. Not bad to see my favorite team win the SEC and advance to the National Championship game for free.
I hope that "Cost of Dinner" includes a hefty tip for the waiter or waitress whose table you're filling for an entire game.

Of course, the alternative is you could eat at home (and maybe have a healthier dinner) and put the money you spend eating out toward TV service you can use any time you want.

By cooking at home, I get to enjoy a much better meal and still be able to both see and hear the game - and pause it if I need to step away for any reason.

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Originally Posted by borntocoast View Post

Here in Florida, Basic would go from $129.00 a month to $173.00 a month! eek.gifmad.gif
I refuse! tongue.gif
Can you provide a link for your basis for these numbers?

You see, when I an get basic service here on various providers for $50-$60 a month, I have to question what you consider "basic". Plus, several providers will give you a discount for the first year - then keep renewing that amount if you call to cancel when it expires.

If someone is paying over $100 a month for TV and is saying it's too much, they're right: it is too much - and it's because they haven't shopped around or sought out deals.
post #1367 of 1689
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

If someone is paying over $100 a month for TV and is saying it's too much, they're right: it is too much - and it's because they haven't shopped around or sought out deals.

And that's usually the case. All I do is walk into my cable office and tell the nice ladies behind the counter that my deal is about to expire and can they do anything for me. That's how I have been paying the same low rate for years.
post #1368 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Nayan View Post

And that's usually the case. All I do is walk into my cable office and tell the nice ladies behind the counter that my deal is about to expire and can they do anything for me. That's how I have been paying the same low rate for years.
Exactly.

It's one thing to show others how you save money verses a traditional pay TV subscription - it's another to overly inflate the cost one might have to pay for it.

The fact is, you don't have to pay $100+ a month to get pay TV service. To keep throwing that kind of number around as if it's a fact of life does a disservice to people genuinely looking to threads like these to get ideas and options for saving money on household entertainment.

You wouldn't walk into a car dealership and pay the sticker price for a car. Plus, when you buy the car, you shop around for the best rates on insurance for it. When you buy consumer goods, you check prices at several stores to ensure you get the best price. Why wouldn't you do that with pay TV? If you have access to more than one source of TV, you have all the power.

Use it.
post #1369 of 1689
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I hope that "Cost of Dinner" includes a hefty tip for the waiter or waitress whose table you're filling for an entire game.
Of course, the alternative is you could eat at home (and maybe have a healthier dinner) and put the money you spend eating out toward TV service you can use any time you want.
By cooking at home, I get to enjoy a much better meal and still be able to both see and hear the game - and pause it if I need to step away for any reason.
Well sure, if you want to be anti-social about it.

I enjoy going to my favorite bar on Saturdays and Sundays to watch the games. I typically go with a few friends, but even if I go alone I know most of the regulars. You get fans of all kinds of different teams, including your own team, out to watch games. Do a little cheering, high five someone you don't know, talk trash with the guy who supports your rival. Shoot, I sometimes even get free drinks from the managers just for being a loyal customer.

And yes, I generously support my servers with tips for their hospitality. I would much rather my money go to someone who is working hard for her wage and needs it than give it to some conglomerate* I've never met. The way I look at it, we're all going to die someday, and I can't take my money to the grave with me. I have FUN watching games at the bar.


*My local bar is locally owned and operated, and I've hung out with the owners on numerous occasions.
post #1370 of 1689
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Well sure, if you want to be anti-social about it.
I enjoy going to my favorite bar on Saturdays and Sundays to watch the games. I typically go with a few friends, but even if I go alone I know most of the regulars. You get fans of all kinds of different teams, including your own team, out to watch games. Do a little cheering, high five someone you don't know, talk trash with the guy who supports your rival. Shoot, I sometimes even get free drinks from the managers just for being a loyal customer.
And yes, I generously support my servers with tips for their hospitality. I would much rather my money go to someone who is working hard for her wage and needs it than give it to some conglomerate* I've never met. The way I look at it, we're all going to die someday, and I can't take my money to the grave with me. I have FUN watching games at the bar.
*My local bar is locally owned and operated, and I've hung out with the owners on numerous occasions.

That may be the way you do it, but I would suspect (based on his posts) Jedi Master's "social experiences" are quite different from yours - and he's the one I was replying to.

BTW - I often have friends over and lending a hand in the cooking is often part of the fun. I've introduced several friends to cooking that way.
post #1371 of 1689
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I hope that "Cost of Dinner" includes a hefty tip for the waiter or waitress whose table you're filling for an entire game.
Of course, the alternative is you could eat at home (and maybe have a healthier dinner) and put the money you spend eating out toward TV service you can use any time you want.
By cooking at home, I get to enjoy a much better meal and still be able to both see and hear the game - and pause it if I need to step away for any reason.
Can you provide a link for your basis for these numbers?
You see, when I an get basic service here on various providers for $50-$60 a month, I have to question what you consider "basic". Plus, several providers will give you a discount for the first year - then keep renewing that amount if you call to cancel when it expires.
If someone is paying over $100 a month for TV and is saying it's too much, they're right: it is too much - and it's because they haven't shopped around or sought out deals.

The problem is I can't get any pay TV service for $15 (the price I would pay for my dinner). Then after the National Championship game is over I'm not stuck paying for a bunch of channels full of reality shows and NBA Basketball which I have no interest in. I'm only doing this for the National Championship game. With the regular season and the NFL playoffs I'm at home watching them on my 50 inch plasma HDTV and surround sound receiver for free OTA.

The $50 to $60 a month is what the new customers get in the first year of a two year contract with DirecTV. Then in the second year the price skyrockets. Cox Cable in my area charges $70 a month for basic channels 2-70 with only standard definition and no DVR. Add HD and the DVR and the price shoots up to $100 a month. Thanks to all the sports channels buying these multi billion dollar contracts this figure will continue to rise.
post #1372 of 1689
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Exactly.
It's one thing to show others how you save money verses a traditional pay TV subscription - it's another to overly inflate the cost one might have to pay for it.
The fact is, you don't have to pay $100+ a month to get pay TV service. To keep throwing that kind of number around as if it's a fact of life does a disservice to people genuinely looking

You can get your locals on the pay TV lifeline for around $20 a month. So you are right. But I'll stick to getting them for free with my antenna.
post #1373 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post


That's the deal killer for me.


I can see cutting the cable or dumping the dish if I wasn't into sports, but there is no other way to get the live sports content I want.

+1 i am a lifelong sports addict so much so that if it weren't for live sports, i don't really need a TV eek.gif
post #1374 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

You can get your locals on the pay TV lifeline for around $20 a month. So you are right. But I'll stick to getting them for free with my antenna.

My Local provider also has a "Superbasic" service for about $25.00, however there is nothing that you cannot get from an over-the-air antenna, so IMO that too is a waste of money.
post #1375 of 1689
Sports costs, rights fees, etc. are out of control, are a large part of the bill and they are being forced on everyone, there's no question about it. It will result in more cord cutting over time until the media giants see the writing on the wall, because right now they have no incentive to get off of the gravy train. It's nice for me because I watch a lot of sports so people that don't watch sports subsidize my bill, but it's not right.
post #1376 of 1689
There is also a satisfaction of not being tied to a compay of any sorts, which is part of the appeal.

A lot of these people who are posting these great rates are in metropolitan areas, I think. I have two choices, Dish or Direct... you have to constantly switch back and forth to get the good rates, or threaten to... it is a hassle.

In the end, I am happy with my switch, supplementing OTA with Netflix, Free Hulu, Youtube, and purchasing a few shows from Amazon On-Demand. I only had two tvs hooked up and it was $100 a month after fees... I had a DVR, which is indispensable in this day and age - but I built my own DVR in the computer and can record more, with more space and quality, so I have come up ahead there as well. Plus, no rain fade. Plus, two markets (I'm in between). Plus, subchannels (which I didn't have before, but to be fair, I never usually watch them).
post #1377 of 1689
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Originally Posted by borntocoast View Post

My Local provider also has a "Superbasic" service for about $25.00, however there is nothing that you cannot get from an over-the-air antenna, so IMO that too is a waste of money.

There are subchannels in my area that Cox Cable doesn't even carry. Including MeTV which is the best channel for classic programming. MeTV and MyFamilyTV are only available OTA in my area.
post #1378 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

Free OTA TV and DVDs are the best thing around. You don't have to pay for reality shows, commercials and other bad programming. By the way, this is the thread where you read about stuff like this. rolleyes.gif
Video games are great too. This fall I've been playing my NCAA 12 single player dynasty with Alabama on the Xbox 360.
Yes, I do know that this thread is about OTA tv. Like I've said before, there is nothing wrong with that. But there is no need to condemn pay-tv while you're praising free tv. People spend their money on what works for them. I could never go back to strictly ota. I would get more streaming services, and expand on my ota dvrs. I could never go back to "appointment" tv with vcrs (or even the Magnavox dvd recorders) for time shifting. But that would mean spending money for tv, something it seems you really hate to do.

I've never played a NCAA video game. Do they have a "franchise mode" like the pro games do? I just wonder how many SUV's a college goes through in recruiting players? tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by borntocoast View Post

Here in Florida, Basic would go from $129.00 a month to $173.00 a month! eek.gifmad.gif
I refuse! tongue.gif

I've never seen stand alone basic cable go for anywhere near that price. Does that price include internet and phone too? My internet/phone provider would jump my bill from $70 to $85 if I added their basic 75+ channel clear QAM tv package.
post #1379 of 1689
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Originally Posted by mhufnagel View Post

I've never seen stand alone basic cable go for anywhere near that price. Does that price include internet and phone too? My internet/phone provider would jump my bill from $70 to $85 if I added their basic 75+ channel clear QAM tv package.

I think there's an issues on this thread with people defining basic cable in different ways. My parents bill was up to about $115 with Comcast. That was for HD service, 1 HD-DVR, and 1 other HD-box, no premiums, and included sales tax and other "taxes" and fees they were tacking on. I convinced them to go with DirecTV at that point.
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Originally Posted by lobosrul View Post

I think there's an issues on this thread with people defining basic cable in different ways. My parents bill was up to about $115 with Comcast. That was for HD service, 1 HD-DVR, and 1 other HD-box, no premiums, and included sales tax and other "taxes" and fees they were tacking on. I convinced them to go with DirecTV at that point.

I agree. Basic cable is just that, no boxes or DVR, just the line coming in plugged into the TV. But then again, each company is different and has it's own definition of basic/standard and each is priced differently.
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