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Originally Posted by Simm View Post



I don't have to drop TW roadrunner but wanted to see what others were doing. I guess I'm simply trying to get as much information as possible on options before making the move.

I dropped the cable TV off TW and kept phone and Internet.
post #1562 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Simm View Post




I don't have to drop TW roadrunner but wanted to see what others were doing. I guess I'm simply trying to get as much information as possible on options before making the move.

 

Got it.  What options are available to you will be just whats available in your town.  Is DSL available from a phone company?  Is a telco like AT&T Uverse or Verizon FIOS available?  Is another cable company available (rare, but does happen)?  Probably the last option might be if a WiMax type service is available or even going thru your cell phone provider.

 

List out what is all available, speeds and costs along with common pros and cons.  Should help you make a decision.

 

For example my options for Internet are Charter cable, AT&T Uverse, DSL and satellite.

Charter sucks really bad, DSL is expensive and slow around here and satellite of course is a non-starter.  Really leave Uverse as the only good option with Charter a distant second.

post #1563 of 1689
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Originally Posted by bonscott87 View Post

So now we get most of our shows for free OTA and pay $8 for Hulu Plus which nets me most of the "cable" shows we watch from the likes of USA and SyFy.  RedBox for BluRays at $1.50 each (with lots of coupon codes for free movies too).  So gone from $100 a month to $8 and a couple bucks for current movies.  Not a bad savings I say.

Unless you factor in the cost for the high speed internet that provides you Hulu Plus streaming it's not an accurate cost breakdown comparison.
post #1564 of 1689
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Originally Posted by bidger View Post

Unless you factor in the cost for the high speed internet that provides you Hulu Plus streaming it's not an accurate cost breakdown comparison.

How many people don't have high-speed internet anyway, regardless of their TV choices?

I have DirecTV, Antenna AND high-speed internet, so dropping D* would be no problem and the internet would not be a cost factor. I already stream Pac-12 games on the internet since D* doesn't carry them anyway.
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Originally Posted by bidger View Post

Unless you factor in the cost for the high speed internet that provides you Hulu Plus streaming it's not an accurate cost breakdown comparison.
When talking about the cost of cable, I always separate it from the cost of internet. Depending on the discount you get for a bundle (in some cases, may be non-existent), the internet will be a static price regardless of tv service.
post #1566 of 1689
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Originally Posted by bidger View Post


Unless you factor in the cost for the high speed internet that provides you Hulu Plus streaming it's not an accurate cost breakdown comparison.

 

Sure it is.  I'm of course going to have high speed Internet anyway.  Who wouldn't?  Costs the same too with TV or not (for me).  

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I think the only way internet cost is a factor to consider is if you upgrade your speed specifically so you can have a better streaming experience or you previously only had dial-up or a wireless plan for internet.

It's also a consideration if you were hoping to downgrade your service to save money, but can't if you want to watch streaming video.
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I think the only way internet cost is a factor to consider is if you upgrade your speed specifically so you can have a better streaming experience or you previously only had dial-up or a wireless plan for internet.

It's also a consideration if you were hoping to downgrade your service to save money, but can't if you want to watch streaming video.

 

Yep.  I will say though in my experience just 6 meg is plenty for streaming in HD.  With 6 meg I can stream two HD Netflix streams and one Hulu HD at once with no issue with plenty left for web surfing.  12 meg will give you a bit more room if you have a gamer or really need to stream more then that.  Some people think you need 50 meg or something to stream and that's just not true.  Although I'm sure how crappy your Internet provider is will make a difference.

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Originally Posted by bonscott87 View Post

Yep.  I will say though in my experience just 6 meg is plenty for streaming in HD.  With 6 meg I can stream two HD Netflix streams and one Hulu HD at once with no issue with plenty left for web surfing.  12 meg will give you a bit more room if you have a gamer or really need to stream more then that.  Some people think you need 50 meg or something to stream and that's just not true.  Although I'm sure how crappy your Internet provider is will make a difference.
It depends.

Some services give you a constant speed closer to the maximum than others. I'd rather have a constant 4-5 on a 6Mb/s connection than the same on a 10Mb/s package. The problem is, the service that offers the latter probably skims a 6Mb/s connection down to a contant 3Mb/s, so you have to upgrade just to get what you need to do anything.

It used to be that DSL was a lot more constant and more likely to give you a speed closer to the max for the connection, even if it didn't hit the peaks that cable did. Cable, on the other hand, used to swing widly up and down during peak and non-peak periods. Now, cable seems to have stabilized and left DSL in the dust as just being slow. FIOS and U-Verse have made up for that, but, for most people, the line for cable is already there with no major installation needed.

I think the main reason cable has come out shooting as much as they have is to ward off the defection to telco or wireless-based services that was taking place several years back. Now, the wireless services have made themselves unappealing for anything but useage where there is no other conenction to the internet available with all their caps and speed limits. WiFi has become a valuable feature in phones in the last few years so you can use the bigger pipe of home broadband.
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I finally cut my cable, Time Warner NYC, about three weeks ago. I've gone through a couple of antennas and am getting the best results from an HD-Blade on the wall right inside my window. Since I work till 10pm all week, I missed a lot of TV anyway and I really couldn't justify anymore paying $126 a month - eventually to increase with the Showtime they added to my building's service without our permission - so now my latest bill is only $40 for internet only and the TW standard is fine for Roku, where I do all my streaming - there are plenty of older/classic/unusual films you can watch there for not much cost, besides Netflix.

I do miss the idea of watching the major tennis events but the finals are usually on the networks (though Wimbledon went to ESPN, still ABC repeated a lot of it later that day last year). However it almost feels like a relief not to be bombarded by shows I have no interest in. The digital picture makes a huge difference of course. I still remember when I moved to New York and couldn't believe how bad the reception was in the old days.
Edited by roseha - 4/11/13 at 9:05pm
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I went to get groceries at the grocery store that is 5 minutes from my house and rented two new release movies out of a redbox for $1.20 each. I was thinking to get these movies on cable I would be paying $100 a month plus $6 each to rent them on PPV. Pay TV is way overpriced.
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Yep, I pay $8 a month for Hulu Plus and that's it.  Far cry from $110+ a month and I don't really miss anything, especially since it seems every channel now is becoming a reality channel of some kind.

 

Redbox tip:  Sign up for their email and also for their text deals.  Every week you'll get coupon codes in email and text for at least 50 cents off a rental, sometimes rent one get one free and stuff like that.  Makes it even cheaper.

 

With Redbox my totally monthly outlay is about $10 a month for OTA HD, streaming and Redbox for latest movies.  Can't really beat that.

 

The only thing I'll miss is Red Zone channel during NFL season.  But a trip to the local pub with Sunday Ticket a couple times a month (which I would do anyway) will make up for that.  :)

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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

I went to get groceries at the grocery store that is 5 minutes from my house and rented two new release movies out of a redbox for $1.20 each. I was thinking to get these movies on cable I would be paying $100 a month plus $6 each to rent them on PPV. Pay TV is way overpriced.

Do you know of any other way to get the majority of live sports?

I see your Alabama avatar....I am not sure I could make it through the fall without Espn etc. and the SEC coverage they bring to the table for my UGA Bulldogs and its rivals.
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Oh crap, don't get him started again.
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LOL.  I take my saved money and go to the bar with friends and watch any critical games I don't want to miss.  It's fun to be social.  smile.gif

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Originally Posted by bonscott87 View Post

LOL.  I take my saved money and go to the bar with friends and watch any critical games I don't want to miss.  It's fun to be social.  smile.gif
I can watch a lot of TV at home for the cost of a few drinks at a bar, especially since I don't drink.
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Originally Posted by McDonoughDawg View Post

Do you know of any other way to get the majority of live sports?

I see your Alabama avatar....I am not sure I could make it through the fall without Espn etc. and the SEC coverage they bring to the table for my UGA Bulldogs and its rivals.
I am also a Bama fan, so I consider myself lucky that I can watch nearly every single game without needing cable. ESPN3 and OTA got me through the entire season. I even re-watched the entire BCS NCG the following day on ESPN 3 (I watched it day-of at a bar with some Domer friends).
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Originally Posted by McDonoughDawg View Post

Do you know of any other way to get the majority of live sports?

I see your Alabama avatar....I am not sure I could make it through the fall without Espn etc. and the SEC coverage they bring to the table for my UGA Bulldogs and its rivals.

Last year 8 Alabama games came on the free OTA channel in HD in my area. I watched the BCS title game at a friends house. When the game was over I wasn't stuck paying for basketball games and reality shows which I have no interest in. The NFL has 4 games each Sunday in HD OTA and all the playoffs and Superbowl. I don't watch any other sports but sports are on the OTA channels all weekend. I've saved $4,500 since I cut the cord in November of 2008.
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Oh crap, don't get him started again.

You are in the wrong thread. Go click on the DirecTV thread.
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^ What you should have said is "The Bulldogs aint winning it all anytime soon so why bother paying?" tongue.gif With the way that SEC CG ended you'd think he'd cancel just out of anger.

I saw this good show on Speed called "Gearz" and unfortunately the entire series cannot be found at the big river, if it wasn't for a nice guy from a certain place that shall not be named cord cutters wouldn't be able to enjoy it. Cable subscribers can catch re-runs but who knows if they ever show the entire catalog of shows, this is the rare case where both sides actually lose and the shady characters win.
I wonder if this show will ever come to Netflix? It's a nice alternative to Top Gear supercars
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LOL, sorry for the stir.
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Well I dropped Directv on Sunday due to many channels going to reality shows. I do not watch any reality garbage. So far I am doing just fine and do not miss it one bit.
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Originally Posted by DiCecco View Post

Well I dropped Directv on Sunday due to many channels going to reality shows. I do not watch any reality garbage. So far I am doing just fine and do not miss it one bit.
On the other hand, 3/4 of the shows I watch are on cable - and not one show I watch is a reality show.

Right now, I'm keeping up with:

- The Americans
- Orphan Black
- Psych
- Defiance
- Southland

While they are off right now, I also watch:

- The Walking Dead
- Mad Men
- Warehouse 13
- Falling Skies

Assuming they return, I've been watching:

- Hell on Wheels
- Ripper Street

I've also been periodically tuning in to a documentary series called "Mysteries at the Museum", which tells about weird exibits with mysterious pasts at various museums. It's not a typical "investigative" show where they try to prove whether the mystery is real or not. It simply profiles the items, tells the history and some of the odd events surrounding them.

Add Turner Classic Movies, HDNet Movies and the Sony Movie Channel and I get a great supply of classic and popular past movies to fill my time.

I don't pay for HBO or other premium channels since I can rent those series for far less on disc from Netflix later. Since I seldom encounter spoilers for those, it's not a big deal to wait for them compared to others I mentioned.

So, if you add in the 5 or 6 broadcast shows I keep up with (which I use my D* DVR to record in stead of watching live), that's roughly a dozen shows on an average month, for a total of 48 or so episodes monthly. That works out to about $2 an episode when you consider my bill (with tax and all that) is around $100.

Since it would cost that much to stream them, I might as well have the convenience of recording them with my DVR and having them waiting for me whenever I wish to see them. If I don't watch them right away, they keep recording and wait until I do.

For the ease of use and low cost per episode and the opportunity to easily sample new shows - that's worth the money. If I need to, I can always slim down my service since the bulk of what I watch is on the more basic channels, but I'd lose a couple of the non-premium movie channels. They're worth it to be able to always have a steady supply of movies to watch - often ones not available on home video at all, much less on Blu-ray.
Edited by NetworkTV - 5/1/13 at 11:00am
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Originally Posted by DiCecco View Post

I do not watch any reality garbage.

 

I never understand why reality shows are all bunched together. They aren't good or bad in and of themselves. Just like comedies, dramas, sports or whatnot. Let's see all sports are garbage... no dramas... why do people feel the need to lump them all together?

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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I never understand why reality shows are all bunched together. They aren't good or bad in and of themselves. Just like comedies, dramas, sports or whatnot. Let's see all sports are garbage... no dramas... why do people feel the need to lump them all together?
The problem is, the all fit into the same few plots that all have the exact same elements going on surrounding the same lame people. The worst ones are the job related ones where they seek out the most absurdly unprofessional people that you wonder how they continue to remain employed.

The "competition" shows are as bad in the sense that most of them aren't true competition shows: they're popularity contests where aligning with the right people, then stabbing them in the back keeps you in the game instead of excelling at the stuff you're supposed to be doing to win.

Both types of shows have one thing in common: people who are guaranteed to not get along are put in each other's space to intensify conflict. If I want my living room filled with the sounds of arguing, I'll invite my stupid cousins over: there's a reason I haven't seen them in decades.

While some find this stuff entertaining, many of us find it repetitive, dull and insulting.
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I never understand why reality shows are all bunched together. They aren't good or bad in and of themselves. Just like comedies, dramas, sports or whatnot. Let's see all sports are garbage... no dramas... why do people feel the need to lump them all together?
The problem is, the all fit into the same few plots that all have the exact same elements going on surrounding the same lame people. The worst ones are the job related ones where they seek out the most absurdly unprofessional people that you wonder how they continue to remain employed.

The "competition" shows are as bad in the sense that most of them aren't true competition shows: they're popularity contests where aligning with the right people, then stabbing them in the back keeps you in the game instead of excelling at the stuff you're supposed to be doing to win.

Both types of shows have one thing in common: people who are guaranteed to not get along are put in each other's space to intensify conflict. If I want my living room filled with the sounds of arguing, I'll invite my stupid cousins over: there's a reason I haven't seen them in decades.

While some find this stuff entertaining, many of us find it repetitive, dull and insulting.
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post


The problem is, the all fit into the same few plots that all have the exact same elements going on surrounding the same lame people.

 

One could say exactly this regarding sports. I think it's deeper... whatever the need is to ridicule them. Perhaps the anti-social/social aspect... must be a study or two somewhere.

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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

On the other hand, 3/4 of the shows I watch are on cable - and not one show I watch is a reality show.



While they are off right now, I also watch:

- The Walking Dead
- Mad Men
- Warehouse 13
- Falling Skies

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Mad Men isn't "off" now. It's 4-5 episodes into the season.
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

On the other hand, 3/4 of the shows I watch are on cable - and not one show I watch is a reality show.

Right now, I'm keeping up with:

- The Americans
- Orphan Black
- Psych
- Defiance
- Southland

While they are off right now, I also watch:

- The Walking Dead
- Mad Men
- Warehouse 13
- Falling Skies

Assuming they return, I've been watching:

- Hell on Wheels
- Ripper Street

Most of these shows are available either on the network site or on hulu, all free.
post #1590 of 1689
I can't be the first to point out the irony that NetworkTV watches a majority of programming on a premium service.
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