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post #1651 of 1689
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Ironically, you bailed right as the big push for more original cable programming was starting. While there's still plenty of crap, there's actually never been more good stuff out there before these last 5 years. In fact, cable seems to be making more of the good stuff that the broadcast networks used to make - but would cancel in 6 weeks or less now.

The percentage of good cable shows that make it through multiple seasons is far higher now than the big 4.

I bailed in 2008 because of the quality was so low to go along with the high prices. Plus I go to a friends house that has cable and flip through the channels every week so I know what is on and its not worth the price. Its mostly reality crap and dramas. Don't start talk about how great The Walking Dead is. I don't watch horror and if its the best cable has to offer then its not enough. I like football and that is what kept me hanging on for the last 3 years before I realized I was being nickel and dimed to death.

There are good shows OTA that have lasted a long time. Like SNL which is in their 37th season, 60 minutes whch has been on a very long time, and The Mentalist and Hawaii Five O which is doing well. I get these programs in HD for free.
post #1652 of 1689
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Originally Posted by borntocoast View Post

Thanks for the Information. Sorry if I've been barking up the wrong tree! redface.gif From now on if I want to post about my collection I'll post it on the Home Media Forum. Thanks for the push in the right direction.biggrin.gif

Don't worry about it. This is The Official "I dont have dish or cable" anymore thread and DVDs are an alternative to cable. I would rather watch a DVD in 480p than an HD cable channel that is full of screen clutter. Which is most of them these days.
post #1653 of 1689
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

If you actually get the rated speed it is.

When was the last time you got what you paid for from your ISP?

I'd bet that if someone did a real study, they'd find the lower level offerings almost never come close to their rated speed while the higher plans tend to get there at certain times. After all, they want those deadbeats with 3MB/s connections to pony up for more speed... wink.gif

You can do a study as much as you want.

http://www.speedtest.net/
post #1654 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

You can do a study as much as you want.

http://www.speedtest.net/
That's not what I was talking about. I know what I'm getting.

I'm saying I bet those that pay more get closer (or reach) their rated speeds more often than those with lower plans. After all, why give quality service to lower end customers? They don't make you any real money.
post #1655 of 1689
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post


That's not what I was talking about. I know what I'm getting.

I'm saying I bet those that pay more get closer (or reach) their rated speeds more often than those with lower plans. After all, why give quality service to lower end customers? They don't make you any real money.

 

Luckily I have Uverse for Internet and speeds are rock solid and have been for years.  I always get what I pay for and more.  For example when downloading something on Steam I always get about 2 meg over what I pay for.  So if I pay for 6 it downloads around 8.  Pay for 18 I get 20.  Doing a speedtest always comes out at or above what I pay for.

 

I couldn't say the same when I had Charter cable.  I was lucky to get half what I paid for.  It's great and all that they advertise 30 meg down, but if you only get 12-15 what's the point?

 

So you are correct, you need to get what you pay for.

post #1656 of 1689
I have U-Verse too, with 12 mbps broadband. Though supposedly my BD player will only do NF at 720p I see moves (both HD and SD) go up to around 10-11 mbps bitrate when the film starts. I'm wondering if NF uses that extra speed for fill my buffer with a burst. The 12 mbps speed was $25 for the first year then went back up to $51 afterwards. The rep said I could revert to 6 mbps but I like the extra speed for work and the 12 was only $8 more a month anyway. Funny thing is the ads I get from U-Verse (I still have Comcast for TV) touting how great streaming and downloading movies is with their broadband. Using another broadband service such as Sonic.net though available here would not be a good option since they piggy back on AT&T's lines (not the fiber) and I'm over a mile from the CO.

Broadband should be in the commons but it's incremental introduction didn't suggest that.
post #1657 of 1689
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

That's not what I was talking about. I know what I'm getting.

I'm saying I bet those that pay more get closer (or reach) their rated speeds more often than those with lower plans. After all, why give quality service to lower end customers? They don't make you any real money.

I pay $52/month (incl. taxes) for 20 Mbps DSL (which includes my landline phone) and get 18 Mbps sustained via WiFi at the furthest point in my house, regardless of day or time.
post #1658 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

I have U-Verse too, with 12 mbps broadband. Though supposedly my BD player will only do NF at 720p I see moves (both HD and SD) go up to around 10-11 mbps bitrate when the film starts. I'm wondering if NF uses that extra speed for fill my buffer with a burst. The 12 mbps speed was $25 for the first year then went back up to $51 afterwards. The rep said I could revert to 6 mbps but I like the extra speed for work and the 12 was only $8 more a month anyway. Funny thing is the ads I get from U-Verse (I still have Comcast for TV) touting how great streaming and downloading movies is with their broadband. Using another broadband service such as Sonic.net though available here would not be a good option since they piggy back on AT&T's lines (not the fiber) and I'm over a mile from the CO.

Broadband should be in the commons but it's incremental introduction didn't suggest that.

 

Tip for Uverse Internet.  If you're on 12, drop down to 6 (do this on your online account).  Then the next day you'll have an offer to upgrade back to 12 for $5 off per month (which is how much more it costs, for me anyway).  Thus you get 12 at the cost of 6 for 6 months.  6 months later rinse and repeat.  :)

post #1659 of 1689
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post


Yes, we all know about your SD DVD and VHS collection you keep bringing up in the HDTV Programming section of the forum...

SD is 480i. Full High definition is 1080p which is only available on Blu-ray. That means DVDs at 480p, broadcast and cable channels at 720p and 1080i are in the same category.

Borntocoast was talking about Ripcord coming out on DVD. What cable channel is showing Ripcord in full HD?
post #1660 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

It's not what someone posts. Rather it's the number of times and the singleness that drives people crazy. Much like a mantra... it gets old rather quickly.

People keep posting the same stuff that has already been discussed in this thread. I have posted several times before here that there are TV Shows and movies on VHS that haven't been released on DVD or Blu-ray and they aren't on any channel. Watching them on VHS is the only way to see them. I don't use a VCR to copy new programming in HD to watch back later in SD. That is just crazy. There are plenty of good shows available only in SD. Its been 50 years since they started making everything in color and there is still programming in black and white on TV.
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

SD is 480i. Full High definition is 1080p which is only available on Blu-ray. That means DVDs at 480p, broadcast and cable channels at 720p and 1080i are in the same category.

Borntocoast was talking about Ripcord coming out on DVD. What cable channel is showing Ripcord in full HD?

To the best of my knowledge, this show hasn't been shown on either broadcast or Pay-TV in ages. There are some episodes on youtube, but the quality of the prints is abysmal. I'm looking forward to seeing pristine prints of this series, trust me, it's a GEM of a series. wink.gif
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Black and white? Dude, this is the HD era, I can't stand black and white, LOL! Funny that someone mentioned autopay, I've been on that for my cable for years so I couldn't tell you exactly how much I'm paying now, but whatever, it's worth it. Right now I'm trying to decide what to watch tonight because several channels all have good stuff at the same time. I don't mind the commercials so much because I'm sure they'd charge me a lot more without them, and besides some of them are entertaining and let me know what to buy smile.gif
post #1663 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

SD is 480i. Full High definition is 1080p which is only available on Blu-ray. That means DVDs at 480p, broadcast and cable channels at 720p and 1080i are in the same category.
Where are you reading that? The back of a Blu-ray player box?

720P and 1080i most certainly are HD resolutions and have been in the spec since the start of digital HDTV.

It's one thing to be mistaken and say something that is incorrect. It's a far different thing to deliberately say stuff that, hanging around here, you have to know isn't true.
Edited by NetworkTV - 5/25/13 at 1:35am
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post #1665 of 1689
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Originally Posted by TVWatcher2 View Post

Black and white? Dude, this is the HD era, I can't stand black and white, LOL!

So you'd prefer not to watch old classical movies or something a bit more modern like Young Frankenstein? Or maybe some of the classicals that Ted Turner bastardized?
post #1666 of 1689
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

Ripcord will be available, the first 2 seasons, on DVD in July...

http://www.amazon.com/Ripcord-TV-Complete-Season-Gift/dp/B00CMQIDVI/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1369493856&sr=1-1&keywords=ripcord

Ripcord only lasted two seasons. I have already pre-ordered this gem of a series from the big river. I've also pre-ordered a copy for my sister so she can watch it with her family. (She got rid of cable a couple of years ago because of financial reasons, I've given my niece and nephews over 20 cartoons that I used to like when I was their age and guess what? They like them too! biggrin.gif
post #1667 of 1689
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Originally Posted by TVWatcher2 View Post

Black and white? Dude, this is the HD era, I can't stand black and white, LOL! Funny that someone mentioned autopay, I've been on that for my cable for years so I couldn't tell you exactly how much I'm paying now, but whatever, it's worth it. Right now I'm trying to decide what to watch tonight because several channels all have good stuff at the same time. I don't mind the commercials so much because I'm sure they'd charge me a lot more without them, and besides some of them are entertaining and let me know what to buy smile.gif

You are missing out on the funniest comedians of all time in The Three Stooges. Or a great sitcom like The Honeymooners.

You might want to check and see how much you are paying for cable. You might be surprised.
post #1668 of 1689
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Originally Posted by TVWatcher2 View Post

Black and white? Dude, this is the HD era, I can't stand black and white, LOL! Funny that someone mentioned autopay, I've been on that for my cable for years so I couldn't tell you exactly how much I'm paying now, but whatever, it's worth it. Right now I'm trying to decide what to watch tonight because several channels all have good stuff at the same time. I don't mind the commercials so much because I'm sure they'd charge me a lot more without them, and besides some of them are entertaining and let me know what to buy smile.gif

You are missing out on the funniest comedians of all time in The Three Stooges. Or a great sitcom like The Honeymooners.

You might want to check and see how much you are paying for cable. You might be surprised.
post #1669 of 1689
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Where are you reading that? The back of a Blu-ray player box?

720P and 1080i most certainly are HD resolutions and have been in the spec since the start of digital HDTV.

It's one thing to be mistaken and say something that is incorrect. It's a far different thing to deliberately say stuff that, hanging around here, you have to know isn't true.

I found this info on a website. My DVDs in 480p look a whole lot better that SD broadcast channels in 480i. After seeing this info I guess the SD broadcast channels aren't using the full capacity of 480i.
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480i - Total image resolution 337,920 pixels
480p - Total image resolution 337,920 pixels
720p - Total image resolution 921,600 pixels (roughly equivalent to a 1 mega pixel camera)
1080i - Total image resolution 2,073,600 pixels (equivalent to a 2 mega pixel camera)
1080p - Total image resolution 2,073,600 pixels (equivalent to a 2 mega pixel camera)

The 720p image format has almost three times as many pixels than either 480i or 480p formats.
The 1080i and 1080p formats have over twice as many pixels (2.25 to be exact) as the 720p format.
The 1080i and 1080p formats have over six times as many pixels as the 480i/480p format.
post #1670 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

That is true about the restrictions on OTA that you don't have on pay tv, but you're still paying almost $800 per year to see bouncing boobs and actors say f*ck that you can't see/say on OTA . But I pay $96 per year for pay tv (streaming Netflix $8 per month) so I guess I fall into the pay tv category as well rolleyes.gif

That is true, but we feel that it is worth paying that much for entertainment per month. We also have Netflix and Amazon Prime, so I can add another $14.58 per month on top of the $64. As far as boobs and language, my wife watches a lot of Hallmark and HGTV, and we've never seen any of that stuff on those channels. A lot of the cable programs don't just emphasize those things, but they also present storylines that the ota networks won't show because most ota viewers don't watch serials, they instead watch procedurals. That's why CBS is so strong and most of the serials that really succeed on ota are soap operas.
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

I found this info on a website. My DVDs in 480p look a whole lot better that SD broadcast channels in 480i. After seeing this info I guess the SD broadcast channels aren't using the full capacity of 480i.

Double posting doesn't change the fact that 720p and 1080i are HD resolutions in the ATSC specifications. Describing 1080p as "full HD" was merely a way for the CE manufacturers to convince people to buy new TVs.

...and no, cable and satellite aren't showing SD anywhere near the quality that it's capable of. SD on professional grade formats can look very good. What you see at home - even on DVD doesn't do it justice, though it's far better than any other method of viewing SD programming.

Of course, HD at home doesn't look nearly as good as it good as it does from the source, either. However, the amount SD is compressed and degraded for cable or satellite is far more than what HD usually is. If people could see SD the way it looks like on a format like Digital Betacam, the push for HD likely would have stalled just about the same way the push for Blu-ray did.
post #1672 of 1689
I don't bother with DVD anymore, plenty of BDs for ~$3. To the guy who said "who watches black and white", classic BnW movies are on Blu-ray and they do look better even if they don't have color and as you guys said they are missing out on some classic movies. A relative said that a co-worker told um Netflix has mostly old movies so it wasn't worth it, I told them "they should see for themselves, they have plenty of newer movies and older movies are generally better IMO"
Would they rather watch Captain America over Casablanca? Transformers/World War Z/Vampire Abraham Lincoln or some other nonsense? Over a Cary Grant movie? Or Alfred hitchcock?
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The other day somebody with broken English from DirecTV called my house and tried to get me to subscribe. I politely told them I wasn't interested and was going to hang up but then they asked me why I wasn't interested. I gave them and EARFUL! After that they had nothing else left to say. I also have been getting letters from them in the mail trying to get me to subscribe. How greedy are these people. If they had a good service for a good price I would be calling them.
post #1674 of 1689
It's simple capitalism. Their goal is to provide the absolute minimum level of service that people are willing to purchase in order to maximise profits. Unfortunately, most people are satisfied with the level of service they receive from pay-TV providers, so the status quo won't change.
post #1675 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Kingcarcas View Post

and older movies are generally better IMO
You know what they say about opinions!
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Would they rather watch Captain America over Casablanca? Transformers/World War Z/Vampire Abraham Lincoln or some other nonsense? Over a Cary Grant movie? Or Alfred hitchcock?
Two totally different audiences. There are people who feel that the movies you like are boring. Of course that is just their opinion, I bet you feel that those people's opinions don't count though. I happen to like a lot of both types of movies. But that doesn't mean that there aren't people who don't like any of the movies you mentioned. My wife loves the stuff on Hallmark and Lifetime and really doesn't care for action movies or those classics, different strokes for different folks.
post #1676 of 1689
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master View Post

The other day somebody with broken English from DirecTV called my house and tried to get me to subscribe. I politely told them I wasn't interested and was going to hang up but then they asked me why I wasn't interested. I gave them and EARFUL! After that they had nothing else left to say. I also have been getting letters from them in the mail trying to get me to subscribe. How greedy are these people. If they had a good service for a good price I would be calling them.

I've never had a non-native english speaker call me to try to sell me anything. If DirecTV is doing that, then they're the exception to the rule. Now getting a non-native english speaker when you call them, then yes that's common. So tell the truth, did you call them? wink.gif

As far as being greedy, trying to sell you something is being greedy? You have a far different definition of greedy than what Webster's has.
post #1677 of 1689
Boy, you really told that minimum wage employee a thing or two!
post #1678 of 1689
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Originally Posted by mhufnagel View Post

I've never had a non-native english speaker call me to try to sell me anything. If DirecTV is doing that, then they're the exception to the rule. Now getting a non-native english speaker when you call them, then yes that's common. So tell the truth, did you call them? wink.gif

As far as being greedy, trying to sell you something is being greedy? You have a far different definition of greedy than what Webster's has.

Are you serious with that statement? Then you must be some kind of statistical oddity. Once a week or so I get one of them, especially at work.
post #1679 of 1689
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Originally Posted by mhufnagel View Post

I've never had a non-native english speaker call me to try to sell me anything. If DirecTV is doing that, then they're the exception to the rule. Now getting a non-native english speaker when you call them, then yes that's common. So tell the truth, did you call them? wink.gif

As far as being greedy, trying to sell you something is being greedy? You have a far different definition of greedy than what Webster's has.
Are we sure it was DirecTV corporate and not one of those third-party companies? You know, the ones you see in the weekly ad flyers with a phone number that's not at all one DirecTV uses. I have fun with those people. Had one call while I was visiting wife's family in Oklahoma. Talked them in circles for about ten minutes before they told me to call 1-800-DIRECTV and hung up. I'm thinking the guy had about 5 minutes to make a sale before I became not worth his time. wink.gif"


Seriously, I must be on some kind of avoid-at-all-costs list. I've never added my number to any do-not-call lists, but I still get almost no marketers. I get one call a month from someone purporting to be with my insurance company, though they cannot instantly quote me my account number, so I hang up. And I get quarterly calls from AT&T pitching me UVerse. Knowing fiber's not run to my neighborhood, I always give the woman an enthusiastic YES!! only to listen to her fumble around for five minutes before saying, "I'm sorry, it's not available in your neighborhood."
"Then why did you call?"
"You were on a list."
"Same list as the last time we went through this?"
"Have a nice day, sir."
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Originally Posted by rebkell View Post

Are you serious with that statement? Then you must be some kind of statistical oddity. Once a week or so I get one of them, especially at work.
No I haven't, maybe someone in my family has though. But then I never pick-up the phone when it say unidentified or unknown caller.
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