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Edit: DAPlayer is largely garbage but this thread spawned the discussion of a potentially new bluray player/software called LAV Splitter authored by Nevcairiel who has been kind enough to discuss it further.

Please see below...

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Anyone used DaPlayer? I was looking for free bluray software and stumbled upon it.

Amazing a search in our forum only brought up a single post.

Thoughts? Any one used this? Can mediabrowser or xbmc use it?

http://www.digiarty.com/

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DAPlayer is a Powerful, Simple to use and All-in-one video/audio player software for windows that plays most audio/video multimedias easily and smoothly. It is designed to give users a complete free solution for playing High-definition videos, which include Bluray, AVCHD, TS, MKV, MPEG4, H264 video formats as well as DVD video and music CD.

It comes with more than 320 video codecs and 130 audio codecs, builds in numerous customizable controls, fully supports Multi-track video/audio and subtitles, TrueColor System, compatible with almost all multimedia formats and owns fast launch speed. DAPlayer is guaranteed to deliver the highest quality viewing and listening experience on Windows PC.

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Free Bluray Player
Support commercial and homemade Bluray. The only free Bluray decrypt and backup solution in market. Compatible with BD+ and AACS protected Bluray. Play Bluray from hard disk backup files and virtual driver.

High Quality Audio System
Support up to 8 channels audio system, mix audio to 2 channels headphone and surround sound. Support Multi-channel DTS, TrueHD, AC3/Dolby. DAPlayer is based on BASS Audio System.

Easy Play 1080P High-Definition Videos
DAPlayer supports all 1080P/1080i HD videos at low CPU cost, such as M2TS, AVCHD, TP, MPEG-TS, EVO, MKV, AVC, MOD. Also support the HD video mixed-in subtitle tracks.

Low CPU Cost
Optimized with MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 Intel CPU instructions and support Multi-Core CPU and Hyper-Threading technology. Under 10% CPU cost on i5 CPU when playing 1080P AVCHD video.

Region Free DVD Player
Play all 1-6 region locked DVD disc. DAPlayer enables you to freely play any DVD on any region DVD driver device with full DVD navigation controls.

Support Most Popular Video Formats
DAPlayer is built in 450+ A/V decoders. It supports game videos, Youtube and other popular videos, such as MPEG1/2, WMV/ASF, AVI, MOV, RM/RMBV, OGV, FLV, MP4, H.264, M4V, WEBM.
post #2 of 42
I will be sure to test it with some blu-ray iso's tomorrow. (don't have a rom in any htpc, just the server).
post #3 of 42
Thanks for the link. I'm downloading it now for comparison with my Asus oem version of TMT3. I've never upgraded to TMT5 because I only playback BD rips in an avchd format.
post #4 of 42
Thread Starter 
The comments I found weren't very good.

Too bad. Would have been awesome.

Can someone still try it out?
post #5 of 42
it' a scam of mplayer!

check daplayer.dll

you can open it with notepad++ and read

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**** Your system is too SLOW to play this! ****
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Possible reasons, problems, workarounds:
- Most common: broken/buggy _audio_ driver
- Try -ao sdl or use the OSS emulation of ALSA.
- Experiment with different values for -autosync, 30 is a good start.
- Slow video output
- Try a different -vo driver (-vo help for a list) or try -framedrop!
- Slow CPU
- Don't try to play a big DVD/DivX on a slow CPU! Try some of the lavdopts,
e.g. -vfm ffmpeg -lavdopts lowres=1:fast:skiploopfilter=all.
- Broken file
- Try various combinations of -nobps -ni -forceidx -mc 0.
- Slow media (NFS/SMB mounts, DVD, VCD etc)
- Try -cache 8192.
- Are you using -cache to play a non-interleaved AVI file?
- Try -nocache.
Read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html for tuning/speedup tips.
If none of this helps you, read DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html.

very bad attitude, and not even GPL license included

BHH
post #6 of 42
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Okay. Stay away! I
post #7 of 42
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Originally Posted by buzzqw View Post

it' a scam of mplayer!

check daplayer.dll

you can open it with notepad++ and read

very bad attitude, and not even GPL license included

BHH

Did you actually try it or just read one persons report on it? I'm going to give it a go on my test machine. I will report back later.
post #8 of 42
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Anyone used DaPlayer? I was looking for free bluray software and stumbled upon it.

Amazing a search in our forum only brought up a single post.

Thoughts? Any one used this? Can mediabrowser or xbmc use it?

http://www.digiarty.com/

By the way, I have found 2 potential work around that I'm going to try for free bluray disc playback. Oe is, you use makemkv with a xbmc BLURAY plugin and the other is the one I'm excited about its called LAVFSplitter. This one sounds like the shi*, its a directshow audio/video splinter/filter that you can implement into many players and it can play pretty muchh any audio or video format including BLURAY. Il post some links.
post #9 of 42
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Originally Posted by joeydrunk View Post

I'm excited about its called LAVFSplitter. Il post some links.

This is what I need.

Please post.
post #10 of 42
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post


This is what I need.

Please post.

https://github.com/Nevcairiel/LAVFSplitter

Also make sure you have Microsoft c+ runtime installed. There is a zip file and a new one with an install. But it didn't work for me because I think I have to download runtime, also run as administrator. Read the "read me" file too.
post #11 of 42
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Originally Posted by joeydrunk View Post


https://github.com/Nevcairiel/LAVFSplitter

Also make sure you have Microsoft c+ runtime installed. There is a zip file and a new one with an install. But it didn't work for me because I think I have to download runtime, also run as administrator. Read the "read me" file too.

Edit: above when I'm talking about everything, I'm talking about LAVFSplitter, not runtime.
post #12 of 42
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156191

Blu-ray support in LAV Splitter is still relatively new, and is currently limited to just playing a specific title, no title switching in the player (although thats planned).
What you can do is simply open the index.bdmv which will play the longest title (most of the time the main movie), or open a mpls playlist directly.
For the future, you would be able to switch between titles from within your player, but i cannot say yet if that will work in every player, or just in players that directly support it.

Menu support is a no-go for now, although planned for the (distant) future.
post #13 of 42
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Originally Posted by joeydrunk View Post

Edit: above when I'm talking about everything, I'm talking about LAVFSplitter, not runtime.

The Good:
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BluRay Support
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To play a BluRay, simply open the index.bdmv file in the BDMV folder on the BluRay disc.
LAV Splitter will then automatically detect the longest track on the disc (usually the main movie),
and start playing.
Alternatively you can also open a playlist file (*.mpls, located in BDMV/PLAYLIST), and LAV Splitter
will then play that specific title.

In future versions you'll be able to choose the title from within the player, as well.

The Bad:
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However, some other splitters register in a "bad" way and force all players
to use them. The Haali Media Splitter is one of those, and to give priority
to the LAVFSplitter you have to either uninstall Haali or rename its .ax file
at least temporarily.

The Audio Decoder will register with a relatively high merit, which should make
it the preferred decoder by default. Most players offer a way to choose the preferred
decoder however.

So can this co-exist with Haali?
post #14 of 42
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

So can this co-exist with Haali?

It can, but setting it up is up to you. You can disable individual formats from the LAV Splitter properties page, and it would then fall to the next splitter in the chain. The question is if you really use that 2 features that Haali has that LAV Splitter doesn't. (Linked Segments/Ordered Chapters)

Having multiple source filters for the same thing installed is always a bit of a PITA.
post #15 of 42
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Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156191

Blu-ray support in LAV Splitter is still relatively new, and is currently limited to just playing a specific title, no title switching in the player (although thats planned).
What you can do is simply open the index.bdmv which will play the longest title (most of the time the main movie), or open a mpls playlist directly.
For the future, you would be able to switch between titles from within your player, but i cannot say yet if that will work in every player, or just in players that directly support it.

Menu support is a no-go for now, although planned for the (distant) future.

This is huge though and I think its just going to get better. I don't use haali either, all I use is ffdshow so I think this will work for me. I believe this might even take the place of ffdshow. It says it has support for dts hd ma and dolby tru hd. Il post back after I try it. Can you guys do the same if you decide to try it?
post #16 of 42
The splitter supports DTS-HD MA just fine, but you'll still need a commercial audio decoder for DTS-HD, the included audio decoder is based on ffmpeg (like ffdshow) and can only decode the "core" DTS.

If you only use ffdshow audio for pure decoding, and no post-processing tasks, the LAV Audio Decoder can fully replace it already.
You still need a video decoder, as thats not included currently.

BTW, in case you haven't noticed yet, i'm the author.
post #17 of 42
Yeah I figured that you had some part in it. How do install it? I couldn't figure it out from the zip file and then the install version gave me this error when I tried to install it:
" The module "LAVAudio.ax" failed to load.
Make sure the binary is stored at the specified path or debug it to check for problems with the binary or dependent .DLL files.
The specified module could not ne found."
That one was for the audio install and then when I try to to do the splinter install I get the exact same error except it says "LAVSplitter.ax" at the beginning instead of "LAVAudio.
post #18 of 42
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Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post

The splitter supports DTS-HD MA just fine, but you'll still need a commercial audio decoder for DTS-HD, the included audio decoder is based on ffmpeg (like ffdshow) and can only decode the "core" DTS.

If you only use ffdshow audio for pure decoding, and no post-processing tasks, the LAV Audio Decoder can fully replace it already.
You still need a video decoder, as thats not included currently.

BTW, in case you haven't noticed yet, i'm the author.

I'm confused, you said it supports dts hd ma (wich is the hd losless version of dts) then you said it dosnt support dts hd it only supports the core dts. I thought there were only two versions of dts: "dts" and "dts hd ma."
post #19 of 42
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Originally Posted by joeydrunk View Post

I'm confused, you said it supports dts hd ma (wich is the hd losless version of dts) then you said it dosnt support dts hd it only supports the core dts. I thought there were only two versions of dts: "dts" and "dts hd ma."

There is multiple components to playback: A splitter, which reads the file and splits audio from video, and then the actual decoders.

The splitter supports DTS-HD.
The decoder does not - nor does any "free" decoder.

You can use the splitter in combination with, for example, the audio decoder from TMT, and you will get full quality audio. If you use the LAV Audio decoder, you will "only" get the DTS, not the HD version.

DirectShow is always modular like that, it always goes basically like this:

Splitter -> Decoder -> Renderer

To get DTS-HD to work, both the Splitter and the Decoder need to support it. My splitter does, but the decoder does not.
The Renderer does not have to support it, because after the Decoder its just plain uncompressed PCM audio data, and just needs to be sent to the sound card.
post #20 of 42
[quote="Nevcairiel"]

There is multiple components to playback: A splitter, which reads the file and splits audio from video, and then the actual decoders.

The splitter supports DTS-HD.
The decoder does not - nor does any "free" decoder.

You can use the splitter in combination with, for example, the audio decoder from TMT, and you will get full quality audio. If you use the LAV Audio decoder, you will "only" get the DTS, not the HD version.

DirectShow is always modular like that, it always goes basically like this:

Splitter -> Decoder -> Renderer

To get DTS-HD to work, both the Splitter and the Decoder need to support it. My splitter does, but the decoder does not.
The Renderer does not have to support it, because after the Decoder its just plain uncompressed PCM audio data, and just needs to

You say that no free decoder does hd audio, how does MPC-HC and ffdshow do it for example? Also How do install it? I couldn't figure it out from the zip file and then the install version gave me this error when I tried to install it:
" The module "LAVAudio.ax" failed to load.
Make sure the binary is stored at the specified path or debug it to check for problems with the binary or dependent .DLL files.
The specified module could not ne found."
That one was for the audio install and then when I try to to do the splinter install I get the exact same error except it says "LAVSplitter.ax" at the beginning instead of "LAVAudio."
post #21 of 42
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Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post


There is multiple components to playback: A splitter, which reads the file and splits audio from video, and then the actual decoders.

The splitter supports DTS-HD.
The decoder does not - nor does any "free" decoder.

You can use the splitter in combination with, for example, the audio decoder from TMT, and you will get full quality audio. If you use the LAV Audio decoder, you will "only" get the DTS, not the HD version.

DirectShow is always modular like that, it always goes basically like this:

Splitter -> Decoder -> Renderer

To get DTS-HD to work, both the Splitter and the Decoder need to support it. My splitter does, but the decoder does not.
The Renderer does not have to support it, because after the Decoder its just plain uncompressed PCM audio data, and just needs to be sent to the sound card.

Edit: My question got inserted in the quote above:^
post #22 of 42
Just Some thoughts;

You may want to either change the title of this thread or start a new one if you're going to continue the discussion of LAVFilter - also, there is already one running over at doom9 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156191) that has lots of information. Those using Nvidia GPUs may want to check out Nevcairiel's other work, LAV CUVID decoder as well (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=160290). These in conjunction with MADVR renderer provide excellent picture quality and support for multiple file / audio types.

Joey, you already have the VC++2010 runtimes installed correct? Other thing you could try would be to run a command prompt as Administrator, change to the folder you extracted the files to, then run the install bat files again.
post #23 of 42
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Originally Posted by brianley View Post

Just Some thoughts;

You may want to either change the title of this thread or start a new one if you're going to continue the discussion of LAVFilter - also, there is already one running over at doom9 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156191) that has lots of information. Those using Nvidia GPUs may want to check out Nevcairiel's other work, LAV CUVID decoder as well (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=160290). These in conjunction with MADVR renderer provide excellent picture quality and support for multiple file / audio types.

Joey, you already have the VC++2010 runtimes installed correct? Other thing you could try would be to run a command prompt as Administrator, change to the folder you extracted the files to, then run the install bat files again.

Changed the title.

Keep up the discussion. This is like finding gold in a mine.

Thanks for the links.
post #24 of 42
Thread Starter 
Can anyone comment if it will play from within mediabrowser?
post #25 of 42
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Originally Posted by brianley View Post

Just Some thoughts;

You may want to either change the title of this thread or start a new one if you're going to continue the discussion of LAVFilter - also, there is already one running over at doom9 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156191) that has lots of information. Those using Nvidia GPUs may want to check out Nevcairiel's other work, LAV CUVID decoder as well (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=160290). These in conjunction with MADVR renderer provide excellent picture quality and support for multiple file / audio types.

Joey, you already have the VC++2010 runtimes installed correct? Other thing you could try would be to run a command prompt as Administrator, change to the folder you extracted the files to, then run the install bat files again.

I'm not sure if I do or not, I havnt been home to check since I got advice from someone that that might be the problem. I was also just checking to see if there were any other possibilities that could be causing the error.

Thanks for the suggestions, il let you know hoe it turns out.
post #26 of 42
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

This is like finding gold in a mine.

All the gold is over at doom9, frequent the developer threads there more often, and you'll learn much.
post #27 of 42
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If anyone who gets it working could post a step by step installation process that would be huge for the rest of us...
post #28 of 42
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Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post

All the gold is over at doom9, frequent the developer threads there more often, and you'll learn much.

So how does yours compare to Shark007, for example?
post #29 of 42
Shark007 is just a filter pack, zipping up other peoples work, with some custom config UI on top.

I actually develop some of these filters.

Comparing that isn't really possible.
post #30 of 42
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Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post

Shark007 is just a filter pack, zipping up and living off other peoples work, with some config UI on top.

I actually develop some of these filters.

Comparing that isn't really possible.

I guess what I, and likely others, want to know is if it can completely replace Shark007 for use with WMC and mediabrowser.

Can you comment on that?
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