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post #2401 of 2855
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Originally Posted by HD DLP View Post

Bulb issues or not, Epson has strong business ethics and values their clients. Actually, very strong, 2 years replacement, no matter the time on it.

"unusual number of user comments expressing frustration with premature lamp failure".

That is the reason Epson came up with their VERY unusual lamp guarantee for that 8100 model only.

No other PJ manufacture will do what you are expecting Mits to do with the hrs on your lamp, the ONE exception, the 8100 epson. And not any OTHER epson, just the 8100 model.
As mentioned, they're doing it to save their ass, the 8100 did NOT have this unusual guarantee when it came out, but kudos to you for finding it. Epson only has this 'strong biz ethics' on this one model. Mits also has great CS and it wouldn't surprise me one bit that if the HC4000/3800 had the same horrid lamp issues that the 8100 epson has, they might of also made a similar offer, after the fact (as epson has done).

So there is your answer, buy the 8100 epson

Or even better, get a big flat screen instead. Much more reliable on the whole for the average consumer than ANY projector, period.
post #2402 of 2855
Scratch that. I re-read that epson 8100 guarantee again and guess what? It doesn't cover lamp dimming at all, just 'Lamp FAILURE'

So even if you bought a epson 8100 and the lamp dimmed to a unacceptable level after 1500 hrs, epson won't replace it unless it has actually 'failed'.

Sorry HD DLP, you're back to square one.

Buy a flat screen
post #2403 of 2855
Flea, you've missed the point, save it. I'll buy what I like.
post #2404 of 2855
Anyone have experience with aftermarket chinese bulbs? Is it possible to buy a oem chinese bulb in the aftermarket? I found an oem bulb for about $200 which seems to be a steal.
post #2405 of 2855
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Originally Posted by HD DLP View Post

Flea, you've missed the point, save it. I'll buy what I like.

Apparently everyone else responding to your posts misses your point too.

The point is, even if you have the 8100 epson currently (instead of the HC4000), they're lamp guarantee on 'failure' wouldn't cover you. Of course epson 'might', at their discretion, decide to replace your lamp at the hrs you have due to 'excessive dimming', but it would seem unlikely. Only way to know for sure is to get a 8100.
post #2406 of 2855
I've had the hc4000 for a few months now and love this unit. I'm finishing a new theater room and thinking of going from 7 to 9ft wide on the screen. The picture has been great on the 7ft wide screen and on a da-lit matt white 1.0 gain screen. Does anyone think it would be necessary to make the new screen with a bit more gain being 9ft wide? Gets more expensive. In fact, is 9ft wide ok with this projector? Al indications is it would look fine. Thanks.
post #2407 of 2855
My screen is 10 wide 1.0 gain.looks great. DVDs aren't great but are ok. But that's to be expected at only 480p. Blu ray and dish look as good as any flat screen my buddy's paid more for and are only 55 inch. Can't go wrong with this unit.
post #2408 of 2855
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Originally Posted by BlitzBasicMan View Post

I've had the hc4000 for a few months now and love this unit. I'm finishing a new theater room and thinking of going from 7 to 9ft wide on the screen. The picture has been great on the 7ft wide screen and on a da-lit matt white 1.0 gain screen. Does anyone think it would be necessary to make the new screen with a bit more gain being 9ft wide? Gets more expensive. In fact, is 9ft wide ok with this projector? Al indications is it would look fine. Thanks.

Here is what I would offer, is that a 16:9 screen or a scope 2.35 screen, it will be harder to drive the 16:9 9' screen and will drop off faster as the lamp ages, YMMV...
post #2409 of 2855
Thanks guys for the input. Bishopt, I know what you are saying. However, I don';t watch anything but movies on it, and that is not real often. So i think a 1.0 gain may fine for long enough. Then i 'll just buy another bulb.
qx56, that is huge! lol. Thanks for giving me something to reference with. This unit kick's butt. Especialy for the price. The Hc4000 has been a great tool to bring family and friends together for fun popcorn and movie nights.
post #2410 of 2855
I was at six wide with a infocus x1. this set up is was brighter in even the low mode witch is what i run it in. Truely amzing the jump in pq, blacks and shadows with this on the screen I have. Blows the x1 away even with when screen being 4 feet wider. Blu rays on this set up are amazing. I have had many people come over and the all agree this thing blows away there flat screens.
post #2411 of 2855
So I wanted to take a quick Poll, since it surprised me when I looked at the number.


How many hours do you have on your HC4000?


Looked at mine last night, I'm up to 1260, still looks great
post #2412 of 2855
Just replaced my HD70 with this and I'm rather pleased.

I'm curious if anyone is using the "CTI" adjustment at all. I haven't seen the need to, was wondering what the scenario was to use it.
post #2413 of 2855
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Originally Posted by bishopt View Post

As promised LOTR Fellowship pictures, this is extended DVD version...





The last picture came out too blue, it wasn't this blue on the screen actually had more pink too it, but I didn't know how to adjust my photo...



I know I read some opinions that LOTR was not watchable on a mits HC4000, but I have a feeling that they have never seen it on the mits, picture even on dvd looked great...

Going to go watch Master and commander on Blu, thats a very dark movie...will see if I can get some shots...

I've not experienced any problems watching LOTR in either the DVD or Blu Ray versions. The latter is superb!
post #2414 of 2855
Newbie here, Can I have the hc4000 on a tall stand 17-18 ft away and project on the following screeens?
Elite (T92UWH) 92” has 80 W x 45 H dimensions
http://www.amazon.com/Elite-Screens-Tripod-Portable-Projection/dp/B0007M4W6E/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1332103303&sr=1-1

82” Favi (TRI-HD-82) has 71.26 W x 40.16 H display dimensions
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004A7Z1RQ
Thx
post #2415 of 2855
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Originally Posted by SVM View Post

Newbie here, Can I have the hc4000 on a tall stand 17-18 ft away and project on the following screeens?

Read the 2nd post on the first pg of this thread and use the Mits projector calculator (link in that post).

Or Coderguy's PJ calculator.
post #2416 of 2855
Hello all,

I'll be purchasing an HC4000 in the next few weeks and I cannot wait. It's my first foray into HD projection. I've been making do with an InFocus SP4805 (remember how cool it was...7 years ago? ) and a 42" 1080P plasma. It's time to enter the big leagues!

I've noticed (from what I can see in the owner's manual) that the HC4000 doesn't have a standard, VESA-type mounting pattern for a mount.

What mount are you using with yours? Thanks in advance.

Mike D
post #2417 of 2855
Hello,

I'd really like to see pics of your mount. I'm not having much luck finding one online. Thanks very much.

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Originally Posted by boundermt View Post

$mokey,

I mounted my HC4000 about 3 inches from the ceiling to accommodate a 110" screen. I don't remember the specifics as far as the height of the screen above the floor etc. but I built the mount by cannibalizing a cheap monoprice mount and sliding it into a purpose made aluminum plate I attached to the ceiling. If you respond to this post I will take a few pics to show how I did it.

Doug
post #2418 of 2855
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Originally Posted by michaelddd View Post

Hello all,

I'll be purchasing an HC4000 in the next few weeks and I cannot wait. It's my first foray into HD projection. I've been making do with an InFocus SP4805 (remember how cool it was...7 years ago? ) and a 42" 1080P plasma. It's time to enter the big leagues!

I've noticed (from what I can see in the owner's manual) that the HC4000 doesn't have a standard, VESA-type mounting pattern for a mount.

What mount are you using with yours? Thanks in advance.

Mike D

The Mustang mount is a universal type which seems to work OK but requires a bit of custom assy. A little wobbly if you need to manually refocus a lot but left alone it's plenty secure enough. Lots of leftover hardware to use for your future projects though...
post #2419 of 2855
Thanks, SuperVision2010. Which model Mustang mount? I found these on B&H.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...tialSearch=yes
post #2420 of 2855
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Originally Posted by michaelddd View Post

Thanks, SuperVision2010. Which model Mustang mount? I found these on B&H.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...tialSearch=yes

It's the first one listed, the $39 one. It came with my HC4000. If you end up with that one I can describe my assy. which took me about 1.5 hrs, but may only need 1/3 of that with the right instructions.
post #2421 of 2855
Thanks very much, SV2010. B&H had a package deal for awhile; the PJ, that mount and a screen. And i waited too long. If I get that mount I'll contact you.

I'm guessing that any 3-leg "universal mount" would work then? Thanks again.

Hmm. I have a big, steel Chief mount that I used with my InFocus 4805. No way will the mounting holes line up with the HC4000. But, I guess I could fashion a mounting plate from thin steel or aluminum and bolt that plate to the Chief mount. Then again, I'm probably going to need a down tube b/c I'm in a new house and there is a celing fan in the way. Figures...nothing is easy.
post #2422 of 2855
Gave up trying to get a JVC and snagged an HC4000 at the Electronics Expo Ebay sale today.

Can't wait.
post #2423 of 2855
Got my mount from Monoprice for $15.00. I was amazed when I got it it could be so well made for the price. I can hang from it. Really no need to pay more. Check em out.
post #2424 of 2855
The 3-arm mounts from Monoprice certainly look like they will fit, but unfortunately I need an extension tube. MP doesn't sell any 3-arm mounts with an extension tube. So, I bought a 4-arm one and will probably make a mounting plate out of steel/aluminum, bolt that plate to the HC4000, bolt the plate onto the 4-arm mount and be good.

At least that's what I was thinking of doing. Until i got home and measured the huge freaking ceiling fan in our LR. I swear I've never seen a light kit this big. It hangs down 20" from the ceiling, smack dab in the middle of the room. Mounting the PJ behind it with 20" of drop from the ceiling would put the bottom of my 90" diagonal 16x9 screen exactly 14" from the floor. x 2 It's a small room with only 6 feet from in front of the fan to the screen....which would give me an incredibly underwhelming 50" diagonal picture.

So it looks like the PJ will have to sit on a table which is the perfect height to put the bottom of the screen at exactly 36" off the floor. Let's just hope the HC4000 doesn't throw a lot of light backwards thru the vents. Please comment if you can verify/refute this.

This is going OT but if anyone understands, it's you guys.

I COULD convert the guest room; it has no ceiling fan. But, it's full of furniture and the room gets sun all day long and gets hot as blazes in the summer. The house has central AC but that room is a furnace, especially during the day. It's above the un-insulated garage, which doesn't help.

Anyway, I bought mount 5466 from MP today...I'm sure I'll use it one way or another.
post #2425 of 2855
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Originally Posted by fleaman View Post

Read the 2nd post on the first pg of this thread and use the Mits projector calculator (link in that post).

Or Coderguy's PJ calculator.

Thx, the calculator was helpfull. Based on my room setup I will end up with an 82" screen (Favi TRI-HD-82 portable tripod with 1.3 gain and Matt White surface). The projector will end up on a cofee table at 8.2 ft in middel of the room and front of my sofa.

Need your folks comments on my few basic assumptions to make sure I am on right path:
Based on the calculator I can setup the screen at the right height so I will not need to use keystone adjustments.
The projector is only used night time and no lights around and hoping the picture will not be too bright for such a small screen and I can tweak the settings to counter this just in case!

Another curious question - the screen will be front of all of my electronics, will the remote work throught the screen or do I have to look into some devices to work around?

Thx
post #2426 of 2855
The Mitsubishi Projection Calculator is VERY helpful. Armed with my trusty tape measure, I was able to figure out what all my mounting options are. Took just a few minutes. The calculator allows you to visualize how everything will interact. Very helpful.
post #2427 of 2855
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Originally Posted by SVM View Post

The projector is only used night time and no lights around and hoping the picture will not be too bright for such a small screen and I can tweak the settings to counter this just in case!

Another curious question - the screen will be front of all of my electronics, will the remote work throught the screen or do I have to look into some devices to work around?

Thx

"Too bright" is subjective, but IMO a 1.3 gain 82" will be too bright. If you like plasma/LCD brightness, then you'll like this, but your blacks will suffer quite a bit. And no, you can't really dial down the brightness (lumens) enough for such a small positive gain screen.

I run a small screen too (about the same size), but use a .9 negative gain gray, it's a pretty good combo. If you lean towards movie theater brightness and want better blacks, I would suggest a negative gain screen if you're running a 82" size.

As for your remote, normally it won't pass through the screen. In fact, most of us bounce the remote signal off the screen to the PJ mounted on the ceiling behind us (as opposed to pointing the remote up and behind). So I would not count on it passing through the screen at all.
post #2428 of 2855
Review from by Scott Wilkinson at HomeTheater.com
http://www.hometheater.com/content/m...-dlp-projector
post #2429 of 2855
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Originally Posted by R Johnson View Post

Review from by Scott Wilkinson at HomeTheater.com
http://www.hometheater.com/content/m...-dlp-projector

Good find, I will post that link to the first page...Scott is a great reviewer and I think he nails it, it gives you the best bang for your buck that you can get right now.
post #2430 of 2855
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Originally Posted by fleaman View Post

"Too bright" is subjective, but IMO a 1.3 gain 82" will be too bright. If you like plasma/LCD brightness, then you'll like this, but your blacks will suffer quite a bit. And no, you can't really dial down the brightness (lumens) enough for such a small positive gain screen.

I run a small screen too (about the same size), but use a .9 negative gain gray, it's a pretty good combo. If you lean towards movie theater brightness and want better blacks, I would suggest a negative gain screen if you're running a 82" size.

As for your remote, normally it won't pass through the screen. In fact, most of us bounce the remote signal off the screen to the PJ mounted on the ceiling behind us (as opposed to pointing the remote up and behind). So I would not count on it passing through the screen at all.

Thx, I am stuck with a portable setup and settling on a elite ezCinema Series 100" screen (F100NWH) with gain 1:1, should be better than my earlier Favi screens. I am not able to find a gray screen in portable that are in the $200 range...

Any suggestions on remote bouncers? Thx
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