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post #61 of 150
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Originally Posted by joeydrunk View Post

Hey is there anyplace in wmc, like in mpc-hc, where you can go into settings and activate external splitters, decoders etc.?

No but this can do change some settings.
Win7DSFilterTweaker
post #62 of 150
The most secure way to use LAV Splitter for a specific file extension (e.g..mkv) is here. (Haali Media Splitter always overwrites it. )

Somebody mentioned LAV CUVID decoder. If you want to use it as Windows' default video decoder for H.264/VC-1/MPEG-2 (e.g. for use with the WMC internal player), you will have to modify the registry (how) until Win7DSFilterTweaker supports LAV CUVID. But this is perhaps rarely necessary because perhaps you always want to use it with madVR inside a DirectShow player supporting madVR.
post #63 of 150
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

The most secure way to use LAV Splitter for a specific file extension (e.g..mkv) is here. (Haali Media Splitter always overwrites it. )

Somebody mentioned LAV CUVID decoder. If you want to use it as Windows' default video decoder for H.264/VC-1/MPEG-2 (e.g. for use with the WMC internal player), you will have to modify the registry (how) until Win7DSFilterTweaker supports LAV CUVID. But this is perhaps rarely necessary because perhaps you always want to use it with madVR inside a DirectShow player supporting madVR.

What's that program that I have seen you guys use that maps out the signal pathway from your HTPC as far as splitters are concerned?
post #64 of 150
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

What's that program that I have seen you guys use that maps out the signal pathway from your HTPC as far as splitters are concerned?

Are you referring to GraphStudio? http://blog.monogram.sk/janos/tools/...m-graphstudio/
post #65 of 150
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Originally Posted by brianley View Post

Are you referring to GraphStudio? http://blog.monogram.sk/janos/tools/...m-graphstudio/

Yup. Knew it was called graph something.
post #66 of 150
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post


Yup. Knew it was called graph something.

I just tried clicking on renes's link, didn't work.You have an Android right? The last couple weeks only a fraction of the links seem to work with my phone, has that been happening to you with your Android?
post #67 of 150
J. River Media Center V16 recently added Blu-ray support so LAV Splitter can be used with it, too. You still need AnyDVD HD for encrypted Blu-ray. Here are the filters I use for Blu-ray:

Source/Splitter: LAV Splitter
Audio Decoder: ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD (TMT3 185)
Video Decoder: LAV CUVID (for Nvidia) or ffdshow
Audio Renderer: MC's Audio Renderer/VideoClock which syncs audio to video (like Reclock), Room Correction, and Parametric EQ DSP's
Video Renderer: madVR

I have watched 5 Blu-rays now by just inserting the disc and pressing play in JRMC. It works great!
post #68 of 150
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Originally Posted by desertdome View Post

J. River Media Center V16 recently added Blu-ray support so LAV Splitter can be used with it, too. You still need AnyDVD HD for encrypted Blu-ray. Here are the filters I use for Blu-ray:

Source/Splitter: LAV Splitter
Audio Decoder: ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD
Video Decoder: LAV CUVID (for Nvidia) or ffdshow
Audio Renderer: MC's Audio Renderer/VideoClock which syncs audio to video (like Reclock), Room Correction, and Parametric EQ DSP's
Video Renderer: madVR

Here is an easy way to use the ArcSoft Audio Decoder:

1. Download HD Audio.zip and extract to a new folder such as C:\\Program Files\\HD Audio.

2. Double Click register.bat in the folder to register the codec.

3. Add the codec in Tools > Options > Video by selecting ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD under "Other Filters" for the file type you are modifying. Click "Configure" and select the codec to configure the properties. In the ArcSoft decoder properties you need to select the number of channels, change "Light" to "Normal" for dynamic range, and change "16-bit" to "24-bit."

I have watched 5 Blu-rays now by just inserting the disc and pressing play in JRMC. It works great!

Can you do this in WMC or WMP?

Edit: Nevermind. J.River is not free so I am not really interested.
post #69 of 150
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Originally Posted by desertdome View Post

J. River Media Center V16 recently added Blu-ray support so LAV Splitter can be used with it, too. You still need AnyDVD HD for encrypted Blu-ray. Here are the filters I use for Blu-ray:

Source/Splitter: LAV Splitter
Audio Decoder: ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD
Video Decoder: LAV CUVID (for Nvidia) or ffdshow
Audio Renderer: MC's Audio Renderer/VideoClock which syncs audio to video (like Reclock), Room Correction, and Parametric EQ DSP's
Video Renderer: madVR

Here is an easy way to use the ArcSoft Audio Decoder:

1. Download HD Audio.zip and extract to a new folder such as C:\\Program Files\\HD Audio.

2. Double Click register.bat in the folder to register the codec.

3. Add the codec in Tools > Options > Video by selecting ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD under "Other Filters" for the file type you are modifying. Click "Configure" and select the codec to configure the properties. In the ArcSoft decoder properties you need to select the number of channels, change "Light" to "Normal" for dynamic range, and change "16-bit" to "24-bit."

I have watched 5 Blu-rays now by just inserting the disc and pressing play in JRMC. It works great!

Have(n't) you noticed downsampling to 48kHz/16bit? Or does this work correctly under MC's Audio Renderer/VideoClock? This older ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD (with the wrapper) never outputs correct sampling rate/bit-depth under ReClock audio renderer even though the wrapper reports 7.1ch, 24-bit.
post #70 of 150
The latest J.River MC16 now supports LAVFilter for BD Playback - more info can be found here http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=62259.0

Great work by nevcairiel!
post #71 of 150
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Have(n't) you noticed downsampling to 48kHz/16bit? Or does this work correctly under MC's Audio Renderer/VideoClock? This older ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD (with the wrapper) never outputs correct sampling rate/bit-depth under ReClock audio renderer even though the wrapper reports 7.1ch, 24-bit.

I used the ArcSoft Codec.zip file (TMT3 185) in this post or yours and added the wrapper and checkactivate.dll. I see now that you wrote in another post "So called "wrapper" (ASAudioHD+.ax) won't work with TMT3 185. Forget about that and use only win.ini." I also have the win.ini settings added on my computer. I just installed ReClock to check and it shows I am getting 48/16 from a DTS-HD audio track being decoded by the ArcSoft decoder. Which decoder version should I use?

Edit: I put the original ASAudioHD.ax file from TMT3 185 back in my folder and now I get 24 bit output. I understand what you mean by the wrapper not working.
post #72 of 150
All my viewing is via WMC playing .mkv files or recorded TV files. I presently use Gabest splitter and ffdshow for decoding. This combination seems to work reliably for DTS HD and Dolby True HD.

Based upon the above usage is there any advantage to using the LAV Splitter?
post #73 of 150
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Originally Posted by Beamer View Post

All my viewing is via WMC playing .mkv files or recorded TV files. I presently use Gabest splitter and ffdshow for decoding. This combination seems to work reliably for DTS HD and Dolby True HD.

Based upon the above usage is there any advantage to using the LAV Splitter?


Probably not.

The main reason I am interested in this is because you can play retail bluray movies without having to buy the $100 TMT5.

Of course you can always rip that movie to MKV and play it that way.
post #74 of 150
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Probably not.

The main reason I am interested in this is because you can play retail bluray movies without having to buy the $100 TMT5.

Of course you can always rip that movie to MKV and play it that way.

You could do that already before with MPC-HC. You still need additional SW that handles the decryption (or am I missing something here?).

Isn't lavsplitter simply about improvements on the audio side (higher bitrates)?
post #75 of 150
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Of course you can always rip that movie to MKV and play it that way.

This is actually my game plan going forward...

I'll keep using TMT5 or PDVD10 for 3D BR only.

I'll ditch the two when there is freeware for 3D BR playback if ever.

For now, I donate to freeware instead of paying the DRM puppets...
post #76 of 150
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Originally Posted by Beamer View Post

All my viewing is via WMC playing .mkv files or recorded TV files. I presently use Gabest splitter and ffdshow for decoding. This combination seems to work reliably for DTS HD and Dolby True HD.

Based upon the above usage is there any advantage to using the LAV Splitter?

If you literally means "decoding" TrueHD/DTS-HD in MKVs (to multichannel LPCM), perhaps LAV Splitter + ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD is the only solution.

For bitstreaming, ffdshow Audio Decoder is the only solution (the splitter does not need to be LAV Splitter).
post #77 of 150
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Originally Posted by desertdome View Post

I used the ArcSoft Codec.zip file (TMT3 185) in this post or yours and added the wrapper and checkactivate.dll. I see now that you wrote in another post "So called "wrapper" (ASAudioHD+.ax) won't work with TMT3 185. Forget about that and use only win.ini." I also have the win.ini settings added on my computer. I just installed ReClock to check and it shows I am getting 48/16 from a DTS-HD audio track being decoded by the ArcSoft decoder. Which decoder version should I use?

Edit: I put the original ASAudioHD.ax file from TMT3 185 back in my folder and now I get 24 bit output. I understand what you mean by the wrapper not working.

Thanks for the confirmation. I'm afraid those people who post "ArcSoft codec pack" with the wrapper included have never used ReClock.
post #78 of 150
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

If you literally means "decoding" TrueHD/DTS-HD in MKVs (to multichannel LPCM), perhaps LAV Splitter + ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD is the only solution.

For bitstreaming, ffdshow Audio Decoder is the only solution (the splitter does not need to be LAV Splitter).

Is there any advantage to decoding multichannel LPCM over Bitstreaming?
post #79 of 150
No advantage. Decoding to LPCM in PC is necessary if your audio devices do not support bitstreaming (e.g. an older graphics card and/or an older AVR that do not support TrueHD/DTS-HD, you use an analog sound card etc.).
post #80 of 150
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

No advantage. Decoding to LPCM in PC is necessary if your audio devices do not support bitstreaming (e.g. an older graphics card and/or an older AVR that do not support TrueHD/DTS-HD, you use an analog sound card etc.).

Thank you for taking the trouble to explain. Much appreciated.
post #81 of 150
I have read that the LAV splitter is more reliable than the Gabest splitter when decoding HD Audio. Can anyone confirm if this is really fact?

I have installed the splitter (without the codecs as I'm using AMD 5760) but needed to use the Haali install to recognise MKV files and give me matroska icons, I then lowered Haali priority and now have LAV working. Is there a way to achieve the icons and file association without first installing Haali? I tried the registry entry noted earlier in this thread and it helped a lot but did not offer a complete remedy.
post #82 of 150
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post
For bitstreaming, ffdshow Audio Decoder is the only solution (the splitter does not need to be LAV Splitter).
Thats not true anymore.

LAV Audio can bitstream now. Its not "officially" released, but its working perfectly so far, even better then ffdshow.
0.25, the official version which will add bitstreaming, will be out later this week.

Supported are AC3, E-AC3, TrueHD, DTS and DTS-HD - been tested on both NVIDIA and AMD hardware. (Oh and btw, E-AC3/DD+ actually works, not like ffdshow. )

You can head over to the Doom9 thread to grab a pre-release build, if you feel like testing.

Anyhow, stay tuned for more amazing features.
post #83 of 150
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Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post
Anyhow, stay tuned for more amazing features.
Like????
post #84 of 150
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Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post

Thats not true anymore.

LAV Audio can bitstream now. Its not "officially" released, but its working perfectly so far, even better then ffdshow.
0.25, the official version which will add bitstreaming, will be out later this week.

Supported are AC3, E-AC3, TrueHD, DTS and DTS-HD - been tested on both NVIDIA and AMD hardware. (Oh and btw, E-AC3/DD+ actually works, not like ffdshow. )

You can head over to the Doom9 thread to grab a pre-release build, if you feel like testing.

Anyhow, stay tuned for more amazing features.

Great! It looks like I can finally ditch ffdshow Audio Decoder (I always thought it's a bloatware).
post #85 of 150
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Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post

Thats not true anymore.

LAV Audio can bitstream now. Its not "officially" released, but its working perfectly so far, even better then ffdshow.
0.25, the official version which will add bitstreaming, will be out later this week.

Supported are AC3, E-AC3, TrueHD, DTS and DTS-HD - been tested on both NVIDIA and AMD hardware. (Oh and btw, E-AC3/DD+ actually works, not like ffdshow. )

You can head over to the Doom9 thread to grab a pre-release build, if you feel like testing.

Anyhow, stay tuned for more amazing features.

This is looking pretty nice, great work!
post #86 of 150
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Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post


Thats not true anymore.

LAV Audio can bitstream now. Its not "officially" released, but its working perfectly so far, even better then ffdshow.
0.25, the official version which will add bitstreaming, will be out later this week.

Supported are AC3, E-AC3, TrueHD, DTS and DTS-HD - been tested on both NVIDIA and AMD hardware. (Oh and btw, E-AC3/DD+ actually works, not like ffdshow. )

You can head over to the Doom9 thread to grab a pre-release build, if you feel like testing.

Anyhow, stay tuned for more amazing features.

Awesome!
post #87 of 150
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Like????

Whats the fun in telling.
post #88 of 150
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Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post

Whats the fun in telling.

Would you mind having a go at my file association points? I'm sure others will run into the same problem
post #89 of 150
Its not the splitters job to setup file associations.
post #90 of 150
I am very impressed with the work Nevcairiel has done in this area. If you know the first thing about how to install DirectShow filters then you will not be disappointed in trying:

* LAVSplitter: It is rock solid and supports not only files but Blu navigation. IMHO it is now the *best* splitter for everyday use.
* LAVAudio: Supports both decoding and bitstreaming of all common formats. The only downside at this stage is that if you want the full DTS-HD decoding you will need to add the Arcsoft HD Audio decoder (LAVAudio will still decode the core). I would suggest that you would only want to use FFDSHOW if you need DSP features if it is not available in your player (eg I use J.Rivers DSP instead).
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