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The set was assembled in Mexico.
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Originally Posted by Rickster 2 View Post
I will tell you what drove me nuts about my 64 D8000. The picture going off for 3 seconds and coming back on. It would do this while watching regular cable TV via a cable coming directly from the wall (no cable box).
I'm a simple guy and don't expect much from a TV but picture and sound are two things I insist on.
Does this happen when you are watching something from another source (Bl-ray player) If yes then it is the tv. If no then it can be a issue with your receiver from the cable company (perhaps a HDMI handshake issue). The other possibility is how your have wired your system - does the cable receiver output go to a audio receiver first before the tv?
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Originally Posted by Audiguy3 View Post
Does this happen when you are watching something from another source (Bl-ray player) If yes then it is the tv. If no then it can be a issue with your receiver from the cable company (perhaps a HDMI handshake issue). The other possibility is how your have wired your system - does the cable receiver output go to a audio receiver first before the tv?

I have only seen it happen while watching regular TV. I do not have any cable box. My cable is plugged directly into the TV. I also put another TV in its place (65 Panasonic VT30) and I never saw it happen.
post #1384 of 6435
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post
It was quite noticable during the scene when Lafatyette heals Jesus from the snake bite. I was watching the episode on my neighbor's VT30.

Larry
I just re-watched that scene and didn't notice any fluc brightness during that particular scene...there were a lot of candles in the background and any flickering I saw was caused from the candles...the scene which showed some really bad fluc brightness for me was around the 51 minute mark in the scene where Bill is set to stake Eric...every time the camera cut away from Bill and back to Eric there was a noticable brightness fluctuation...that was the worst example I've seen of this
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Who here has the 65" mounted on the wall and what did you use? Getting mine in a couple days and am looking at different mounting options. Leaning toward Sanus VLT14.
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Originally Posted by v5jockey View Post

Who here has the 65" mounted on the wall and what did you use? Getting mine in a couple days and am looking at different mounting options. Leaning toward Sanus VLT14.

I used the "Tilt TV Mount for 42~70" TVs" at TopTVMounts - you can get something sturdier and more expensive, but it worked just fine for me.
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Maybe i've been alittle too fast with using the 'game' setting so much right from the start, it's been a week since i got the tv and maybe i should have taken it more easy.How much hours are people always talking about for letting the tv adjust? 200 hours ...or was it more? Guess i'm gonna have to start using the THX mode now or the Professional one with settings from another forum..

I downloaded these break-in images and they are on now.

http://www.eaprogramming.com/


But oh my, the IR is very clear now. Especially during the green screen, i see parts from the HUD in Battlefield (that i've been playing this evening) but i also see the Vierra logo on the upper left of the screen, which is very weird...cause i don't spend much time having that logo there. I also see 'HDMI 2' on the upper left, but that is my own stupid fault. Whenever i took a break i either turned off the tv, which is wise. But other times i would just put it on another source , in this case HDMI 2, and that source has nothing connected to it. Just a black screen...i figured that would be fine to avoid IR. But i completely forgot about the constant 'HDMI 2' on the upper left of the screen,it never went away and thus temporaly burned in now.

I have the images on now, and it's on a loop, with the contrast turned down all the way. I think i'm gonna sleep now and just let the images do their work. Hopefully the 'HDMI' is gone tomorrow, cause of all IR things..HDMI 2 is the worst and its a bitch to get it away.
post #1388 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Moonwalker1982 View Post

Maybe i've been alittle too fast with using the 'game' setting so much right from the start, it's been a week since i got the tv and maybe i should have taken it more easy.How much hours are people always talking about for letting the tv adjust? 200 hours ...or was it more? Guess i'm gonna have to start using the THX mode now or the Professional one with settings from another forum..

I downloaded these break-in images and they are on now.

http://www.eaprogramming.com/

But oh my, the IR is very clear now. Especially during the green screen, i see parts from the HUD in Battlefield (that i've been playing this evening) but i also see the Vierra logo on the upper left of the screen, which is very weird...cause i don't spend much time having that logo there. I also see 'HDMI 2' on the upper left, but that is my own stupid fault. Whenever i took a break i either turned off the tv, which is wise. But other times i would just put it on another source , in this case HDMI 2, and that source has nothing connected to it. Just a black screen...i figured that would be fine to avoid IR. But i completely forgot about the constant 'HDMI 2' on the upper left of the screen,it never went away and thus temporaly burned in now.

I have the images on now, and it's on a loop, with the contrast turned down all the way. I think i'm gonna sleep now and just let the images do their work. Hopefully the 'HDMI' is gone tomorrow, cause of all IR things..HDMI 2 is the worst and its a bitch to get it away.

200-300 hrs break in time. The VT30 is pretty good at IR. It should go away after a few days. But just to be safe and protect ur investment follow the break in rules. No long gaming sessions during break in period also. 1 hr tops. It was hard for me too, now I'm enjoying BFBC2 max out graphics on my newly build high end gaming PC and it looks drop dead gorgeous. BF3 is going to be something else!
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Peerless wall mounts

http://www.peerlessmounts.com/dyn/Pr...categoryID/195

this is really good they have cheaper ones non articulating
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Originally Posted by Rickster 2 View Post

But I read so many posts about others having the same issue.

A few people complaining about it loudly and excessively instead of getting the unit exchanged doesn't make it a big issue.

It's an issue for sure, but not a big one. Hopefully you swapped out your set and got it fixed already.
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Originally Posted by HairyB View Post

I just received my VT30 55" 5 days ago. I was using the plasma break-in images and noticed a small round area about 2 inches in the center of the screen that is lighter than the rest of the picture. The TV was manufactured in July 2011 and was built with the newest firmware. I have read another post with the same problem with the TC-P58VT25 last year. Is anyone else having this problem and will a 100 hours of break-in correct it?

Thanks,

Hairy

Yes I have the same exact issue. I am not sure what the cause is. I am glad to hear someone else talk about it. I have looked for other people with the same issue but haven't found any posts on it.

I got the VT30 65". The picture is amazing. Couldn't be more happy in every way other than the spot. It is about 2 inches in diameter like you say and in the center near the bottom. I can only see it on certain slides. Mine appears very faint and just seems a bit off from the rest of the screen. It reminds me of backlight bleed a bit in appearance but super subtle. It is most noticeable in one of the grey slides. I can't and haven't seen it at all during normal viewing only during solid uniform picture. It hasn't been bugging me while watching movies.

My main concern is whether or not it will get worse. If it never got worse then I wouldn't care. It really can only be noticed on certain solid backgrounds and just seems slightly lighter than the rest of the picture. I can't see it on black thank God! It almost appears to have a very light pink color to it but I am not sure. The tv costs a fortune and I would like to have a perfect set (as it was intended to perform at least).

I have taken back several tvs though to BB (4 sammys: 50C8000, as realized I wanter bigger and newer, 59D8000 as still wanted bigger, and 2 64D8000s. The first 64 looked great but bezel was bent away from screen quite a bit in one spot and just wasn't exceptable for a tv of that price. The second 64D8000 had the screen peel and 3 stuck pixels. I didn't want to keep returning tvs and knew that if I got another peeler I would so I decided on the vt30. Now it has a small issue too.

I am not sure if I should take it back or keep it. Right now it doesn't bother me other than the fear of it becoming more obvious with hours added. I have about 200 hrs on the set now and it hasn't gotten any worse yet.

Btw I also have 4 white pixels in top left corner when I run the scrolling bar. They only appear during the scrolling. I have read about a couple others having it as well on the ST and VT. I wonder what is causing that too or if it is normal.

I don't want to return the set if I don't have to because I haven't noticed hardly any brightness fluctuation. Nothing as bad as some people report having. It occurs a bit but actually less than the fluctuation on the Samsungs. I just don't want to take it back only to get one with more aggressive fluctuations as that would bother me more than the spot that isn't even visible during normal viewing.

Anyone else notice something similar on their set?
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You all are aware that there is an eprom update that just became available from Panasonic that corrects this fluctuating brightness issue? It is only deployable from Panny service reps as of now but the people who have received the update are reporting this as successful. There is a whole thread dedicated to this on HDJ and the last 10 or so pages deal with the fix.
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Originally Posted by bzal1122 View Post

You all are aware that there is an eprom update that just became available from Panasonic that corrects this fluctuating brightness issue? It is only deployable from Panny service reps as of now but the people who have received the update are reporting this as successful. There is a whole thread dedicated to this on HDJ and the last 10 or so pages deal with the fix.

in the USA or Europe?...are they going to make this available to the public soon?
post #1394 of 6435
The fix is for the US. I don't know much about it but apparently a service rep has to come out to your house to fix. It doesn't change the fw apparently.

Folks in NYC are backed up scheduling appointments. Not sure other areas.
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Originally Posted by mac4lyfe View Post

The fix is for the US. I don't know much about it but apparently a service rep has to come out to your house to fix. It doesn't change the fw apparently.

Folks in NYC are backed up scheduling appointments. Not sure other areas.

I live in NYC and I own a VT30...thanks for the heads up...will be reading that thread and getting in touch with the appropriate people...or maybe I should wait a little while and make sure that the fix actually 'fixes' the issue without breaking something else first
post #1396 of 6435
It's an EPROM flash and no changes to the FW have been reported. It is accomplished by techs and you need to call Panasonic and open a case. Results have been excellent by all reports thus far.
post #1397 of 6435
I have had the patch applied to my 65VT30 and 50ST30 and have not detected any FBr since it has been applied on 8/3.
This is a full eprom flash, so it wipes ALL your settings and returns your TV to the state it came from the factory - it is not a firmware update. This is why it requires a tech visit.
post #1398 of 6435
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Originally Posted by sl1200mk2 View Post

Been lurking here for years, but not posted much. My 7yr old Sammy 52" DLP recently died. Worked perfectly until just recently (never replaced anything). Could probably fix it with a new color wheel and bulb, but figure it's time for an upgrade. Still watching only DVD's and everything hooked up via component!

After much agonizing, countless hours of reading reviews, hundreds upon hundreds of forum posts and several hours at stores staring various sets, I've settled on a Panny 55" VT30. It was between this and the Samsung D8000 LCD. I was entirely Samsung biased at first, but actually looking at them in person changed things. Even in the store, only being able to roughly change settings (to THX mode), the VT30 just looked so good. Sure, the Samsung really "popped" and definitely was (much) brighter, but I kept coming back to the VT30. I was genuinely worried about the overall reliability on the Samsung (reading those threads was scary) and I could see the uniformity issues in store. Honestly, I don't catch (see) half of what you guys talk about in regards to anything, but I could pretty easily see several defects (limitations?) on just about any Samsung LCD. I didn't pursue Samsung plasma's much after seeing the Panasonic.

I normally don't buy major purchases from the big box stores, but BB had a really decent sale on the VT30, so after taking the wife down for a look and her much preferring the VT30 as well, it was a done deal. Wasn't in-stock to take it home the same day, but I should have it by the end of the week. This will be my first plasma and only 2nd HD set.

I was initially OCD about burn-in, IR, doing the special slides, calibrations and , but I've decided to just roll with it. I'll just set THX mode (levels 50 or less) and enjoy full screen content (HD or stretched) for the first 100hrs. Calibration seems like a worth while investment after I pick up a Blue-Ray player and finish break-in.

I wanted to thank everyone for all the information in these threads. It's genuinely helped out!

Wayne


Well, I got my 55VT30. After blowing my budget on this set and a Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player, I cheaped out and skipped on delivery from BB. I got the set on sale, so they wouldn't budge on delivery. I didn't fight it... thought "big deal -- I'll handle it". I was used to my 52" DLP which is basically a big empty plastic shell that's not heavy at all.

After stuffing the VT30 into a borrowed Suburban, which barely allows it to stand upright in the box (we're talking millimeters) I got it home and realized exactly how heavy this thing is! Took over an hour just to get it out of the box and into the stand. Just me and the wife available to do this mind you. Now for the journey up stairs. Yeah, that's right... up stairs. Those small, up, then 90 deg turn, then up again deals. After thoroughly measuring and making sure we had clearance (again, barely) we began the operation. Believe me, there was several moments of terror, agony and thought for sure my back was going to be shot for a month.

Cutting to the chase, set made it up stairs perfectly, never touching anything but our gentile and now sore hands. Moral of the story... don't cheap out on the $100 delivery. I'll never attempt that again!!

Boy was this thing worth it though. Absolutely. Drop. Dead. Gorgeous. Out of the box on THX mode with a couple levels dialed down a little bit for break-in, it's still simply stunning. Been watching a few hours of HD channels. Also tried out the Oppo player and saw a Blu-Ray disc for the 1st time -- Tron. WOW!! I hardly remember the movie because I couldn't get over the PQ. I must of paused it 10 times and asked the wife "are you seeing this?!!" I did zoom too wanting to avoid the letterbox during break-in, so I'm sure it looks even better as originally intended. The Oppo player is another must buy. I'll never buy another $150 Costco player again!

I don't know if I saw any fluctuating issues or not, everything so far has looked amazing. I've seen nothing that's made me think "what was that?" Could be my set is fine, but probably that I just don't notice these "issues" readily unless it's pretty obvious and blatant. After a couple hundred hours of normal viewing I plan to get it calibrated.

I can honestly say I've never really seen an HD set until now. The DLP was great for its time and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I'm over the moon so far with the Panasonic. If anyone (like me) who was on the fence about plasma vs. LCD or this set in general (I was between this or the Samsung D8000 LCD), go with the plasma and Panasonic. You won't regret it.
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Great to hear that this problem has been addressed. It is one of the few serious problems with the sets and now that a solution is available, it makes it alot easier to go for a GT or VT.

Any idea when we will know that this change has been appied to units from the factory?

Which models is this EPROM flash available for? Is it for the VT30 only or can you get it for the GT and ST? Not sure if the ST actually suffers from the FBr issue.
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For those with the 55VT30 I was curious if you felt 6-7' would be too close to this set or if you would notice issues this close?

I have a 58V10 in my living room and I am looking for a set finally to upgrade my 36" CRT in my bedroom. Since I have a couple different viewing angles and distances, I am going back and forth between the 50" and the 55". If I thought the 58" wouldn't be too large I would move that in there and get a 65" for my living room, but I really don't want to spend that much and the 58" just feels huge when I am around 6' away. I also have to deal with the fact I need to mount the TV high enough so I can see it when I am laying in bed which means I will probably go with a stand 40" high or higher.

Sometimes I will be at my desk which would be 6-7 feet slightly off center, and sometimes at the end of my bed also 6-7 feet, or laying in bed around 12-14 feet. If I was always around 7 feet, I would probably go with the 50GT, but since sometimes I will be at 12 feet I can't decide if I will regret the 50".
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Originally Posted by innocentfreak View Post
For those with the 55VT30 I was curious if you felt 6-7' would be too close to this set or if you would notice issues this close?

I have a 58V10 in my living room and I am looking for a set finally to upgrade my 36" CRT in my bedroom. Since I have a couple different viewing angles and distances, I am going back and forth between the 50" and the 55". If I thought the 58" wouldn't be too large I would move that in there and get a 65" for my living room, but I really don't want to spend that much and the 58" just feels huge when I am around 6' away. I also have to deal with the fact I need to mount the TV high enough so I can see it when I am laying in bed which means I will probably go with a stand 40" high or higher.

Sometimes I will be at my desk which would be 6-7 feet slightly off center, and sometimes at the end of my bed also 6-7 feet, or laying in bed around 12-14 feet. If I was always around 7 feet, I would probably go with the 50GT, but since sometimes I will be at 12 feet I can't decide if I will regret the 50".
When in bed my eyes are 14 feet from my 32" Vizio. I am ok with that due to the limited time I watch tv in the bedroom. A 50" IMO would be more than sufficient. However as is always the rule "Go as big as you can now or you will regret it later".
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Originally Posted by donnymac51 View Post
When in bed my eyes are 14 feet from my 32" Vizio. I am ok with that due to the limited time I watch tv in the bedroom. A 50" IMO would be more than sufficient. However as is always the rule "Go as big as you can now or you will regret it later".
Yeah I don't see a ton of viewing so 55" does seem overkill. I think the VT is why I keep leaning towards the 55" though. If they offered a 50VT30 this year, I would probably just go with that.
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A couple of months ago, it was said that the Samsung D8000 had slightly better color accuracy than th Panasonic VT30 series.

It was thought at the time that Panasonic would eventually issue a firmware update to put it on par with the Samsung.

Did it ever come out and if it didn't, does anyone have any insight into this?

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

A couple of months ago, it was said that the Samsung D8000 had slightly better color accuracy than th Panasonic VT30 series.

It was thought at the time that Panasonic would eventually issue a firmware update to put it on par with the Samsung.

Did it ever come out and if it didn't, does anyone have any insight into this?

Thanks.

The current FBr fix does not address anything with the color accuracy, but there is a rumored fix in development.
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I've searched, but wanted some quick confirmations/conclusions... I just ordered a 65VT30 and wanted to have my setup/break-in plan.

1) Break-In DVD: With my last plasma, I used the disc that is a Stickie post here. I'm assuming that it is still the way to go? I'm more familiar with Samsung, so for the Panny, what are the modes, etc to avoid during break-in? Keep contrast under 50?

2) Firmware, EPROM: Slightly confused here. I've noticed some files that can be downloaded from Panasonic's website, though others are commenting on needing a tech come to the house, etc.

3) Calibration: I'm guessing its best to have this done after the break-in period?

Thanks.
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contrast11

You definately want to wait until 150hrs of use before calibration as the colors tend to shift.
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Thank you for the confirmation.

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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

contrast11

You definately want to wait until 150hrs of use before calibration as the colors tend to shift.
post #1408 of 6435
Or if you're in a rush to get it calibrated, use the break in slides at night or all the time and you'd be set. Just monitor the hours.
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Originally Posted by clenz View Post

The current FBr fix does not address anything with the color accuracy, but there is a rumored fix in development.

so people who got their sets calibrated in ISF modes are screwed as the Fbr update as well as any future color saturation update will surely erase any calibrated settings
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Good evening,

I am intrigued about this set as an upgrade over my current Sony kdl-52xbr4. Would be seeking out the 65inch version and eager to try out the 3d features. My main question is - does anyone have any comparative experience with these sets and my current Sony? The panasonic looked great in the store, but it is always tough to make exacting comparisons, store vs memory of home. Thanks for any pointers! Also, the 'eprom' thing - are currently shipping sets already fixed this way? Or plan on it?
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