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post #2521 of 6373
10/31/11 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by mvision7m View Post

I can't account for it, I can't explain it but it worked and I was pleasanlty shocked. Stinks you laid out the extra for a new component for 3D. I really didn't think it was going to work but the A/V gods were with me.

I will have to try my Yamaha 3900 and see if it passes 3D content when I get mine set up.I have it set to pass through for HDMI hookups so the video signal is untouched.I will be happy camper if it does.
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post #2522 of 6373
10/31/11 at 2:21pm
84.46 Baby!
No more FBR...Took longer to remove all screws from back than to replace the board...I'll post pics later...Now I just need to log enough hours so I can have Chad B calibrate my set...
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post #2523 of 6373
10/31/11 at 2:30pm
Got my board replaced while I was at work today.. I think the PQ is better, and no more fluctuations
Mo
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post #2524 of 6373
10/31/11 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by ta-kid View Post


I will have to try my Yamaha 3900 and see if it passes 3D content when I get mine set up.I have it set to pass through for HDMI hookups so the video signal is untouched.I will be happy camper if it does.

Best of luck, if it works with my 3800 it should work with your 3900. I also have HDMI set to "through".
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post #2525 of 6373
10/31/11 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by fcwdev View Post

2) I've been following the build date concerns, so if I order from Best Buy, am I likely to get and August or newer build?

Thanks ...

I received mine from Magnolia/BB on Saturday and it's an August build month and MJ serial number.
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post #2526 of 6373
10/31/11 at 6:23pm
Ok so I had my board replaced today and finally.. Finally my tv rocks! I'm so happy with my vt30. All those previous about pq lacking r all a thing of the past! I guess I had a bad board ?
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post #2527 of 6373
10/31/11 at 6:29pm
For those with a Panasonic Blu-ray player, what color space are you using? I've seen good and bad impressions with both 4:4:4 (the default option) and 4:2:2. I don't even know what I should be looking for between each, and I'm using D-Nice's settings. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Same question goes for the 60/96Hz option in the VT30 menu. What should I set it at and look for there? Any movies I should watch for both the color or the frequency option?

Thanks!
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post #2528 of 6373
10/31/11 at 7:47pm
I ask again as I'm wanting to get a 55vt30 but am afraid of getting a set with the green blob problem. That's the only thing holding me back in the purchase.

I'm located in Hawaii and would assume we get NA sets.
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post #2529 of 6373
10/31/11 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by pochoboy View Post

I ask again as I'm wanting to get a 55vt30 but am afraid of getting a set with the green blob problem. That's the only thing holding me back in the purchase.

I'm located in Hawaii and would assume we get NA sets.


I'm not sure there's a way to know like there is with the FBr (fluctuating brightness issue). I have an August build with my s/n starting with MJ which is above or later than LL to determine if the fix has been applied. Also I followed the recent post describing how to access a service mode that details the latest EPROM along with reading the firmware on another page. Both are the latest version confirming the fix has been applied. I would like to know from someone as well if there is a way to determine about the green blobs but don't believe there is. To me, it seems the FBr fix is something you should look at more since I really don't read too much about the green blob issue which seems a lot less likely than the FBr issue.

Can't you return the display in Hawaii within 30 days if it shows up? Also you have a 1 year warranty from Panasonic. Anyway not sure there is anyway of knowing for sure. My set is approximately 10 days old. I accessed another service screen tonight to find that I currently have 105 hours on my display and counting. The blacks and overall PQ seems to be getting better and better to my eyes.

Good luck!
Robert
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post #2530 of 6373
10/31/11 at 8:12pm
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Originally Posted by JohnnytheSkin View Post

For those with a Panasonic Blu-ray player, what color space are you using? I've seen good and bad impressions with both 4:4:4 (the default option) and 4:2:2. I don't even know what I should be looking for between each, and I'm using D-Nice's settings. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Same question goes for the 60/96Hz option in the VT30 menu. What should I set it at and look for there? Any movies I should watch for both the color or the frequency option?

Thanks!



Hello JohnnytheSkin,

I'm using a Panasonic BD80 with my 55" VT30. Hate to sound uninformed but what do you mean by checking the color space. Do you mean the mode setting such as THX, Cinema, etc? I've watched a few movies and didn't notice any issue but really haven't watched that many I guess. I'm using the THX mode right now which seems really good for blu-rays and HD movies off DISH such as HD Net, Starz, etc.

Anyway I would be glad to check my BD80 setting for you if you tell me a little more what I need to check. To tell you the truth, I have no idea what you are referring to when describing 4:4:4 (default) and 4:2:2. Is this a setting in the menu of your Panasonic blu-ray player? I'm not using D-nice's settings at this point but THX as I mentioned. I have the settings printed out, one I believe for displays with the EPROM updated and one for the EPROM not updated. Not sure what update these refer to but my EPROM is the latest version so wondered lately if that means I should be using the update EPROM settings? Anyway you can tell me what to look for and I'll check if interested.

As for the 60Hz and 96Hz, I have mine set to 60Hz even though I haven't tried 96Hz at all at this point. Even though someone posted recently they have been using 96 Hz with no flicker, I found some posts earlier on this thread I believe that stated there was flicker on certain scenes of movies so recommended to use 60 Hz. The motion seems very fluid and smooth so I haven't really had a desire or reason to swithc to 96 Hz. I posted recently a few pages back where I cut and pasted the scene of a movie where they noticed the flicker in 96 Hz. You should be able to find it.

Does any of this help? You are using D-Nice's settings so maybe you are better off than me at this point. I still feel like a kid on Christmas with the PQ in THX mode. I was watching Blade II on Dish and couldn't believe the detail in the dark scenes. I was literally in awe of the PQ. Not sure if others on here agree or not but I am getting Starz for free. The HD quality on these stations is easily better than blu-ray. Seriously there is absolutely no grain or noise with the HD PQ just crystal clear, much better than the HD content found on FX, TNT or other normal stations like this. I'm so amazed at the Starz and HD Net that when it runs out early next year, I'm paying to keep it.

Robert
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post #2531 of 6373
10/31/11 at 8:18pm
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Originally Posted by mohanman View Post

Ok so I had my board replaced today and finally.. Finally my tv rocks! I'm so happy with my vt30. All those previous about pq lacking r all a thing of the past! I guess I had a bad board ?


Great to hear Mo. I remember how frustrated you were so great to know the board did the trick. Good you hung in there with the hard work getting it figured out.

Enjoy!

Robert
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post #2532 of 6373
10/31/11 at 8:27pm
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Originally Posted by JohnnytheSkin View Post

For those with a Panasonic Blu-ray player, what color space are you using? I've seen good and bad impressions with both 4:4:4 (the default option) and 4:2:2. I don't even know what I should be looking for between each, and I'm using D-Nice's settings. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Same question goes for the 60/96Hz option in the VT30 menu. What should I set it at and look for there? Any movies I should watch for both the color or the frequency option?

Thanks!


I found my post, number 2439 I belive a few pages back. Here is a cut and paste actually from it. It is from a review outside AVS on the 96 Hz setting having flicker on a movie scene while the 60 Hz was smooth.



Panasonic VT30 series 96Hz processing for 24p Blu-ray
As promised on another thread I took a good hard look at the Panasonic's 96Hz processing on 24p Blu-ray. Specifically in Chapter 7 of "I am Legend" with the Helicopter fly over of the Aircraft Carrier it is clear that while the 96Hz processing smooths the pan and you don't see the fast/slow jerky motion of 2:3 pull-down it also introduces significant flicker. The planes on the deck of the ship toward the end of the fly over are shaking like leaves on a tree in a stiff breeze. Therefore, my recommendation would be to set your Blu-ray player to put out 60Hz and the VT the same. Hope this helps! Kevin Miller
ISF Co-instructor
TweakTV Co-Founder
Email: kevinm@tweaktv.com
HDTV Product Development Consultant



Hope this helps.

Robert
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post #2533 of 6373
10/31/11 at 8:29pm
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Originally Posted by robertrobert View Post


Hello JohnnytheSkin,

I'm using a Panasonic BD80 with my 55" VT30. Hate to sound uninformed but what do you mean by checking the color space. Do you mean the mode setting such as THX, Cinema, etc? I've watched a few movies and didn't notice any issue but really haven't watched that many I guess. I'm using the THX mode right now which seems really good for blu-rays and HD movies off DISH such as HD Net, Starz, etc.

Anyway I would be glad to check my BD80 setting for you if you tell me a little more what I need to check. To tell you the truth, I have no idea what you are referring to when describing 4:4:4 (default) and 4:2:2. Is this a setting in the menu of your Panasonic blu-ray player? I'm not using D-nice's settings at this point but THX as I mentioned. I have the settings printed out, one I believe for displays with the EPROM updated and one for the EPROM not updated. Not sure what update these refer to but my EPROM is the latest version so wondered lately if that means I should be using the update EPROM settings? Anyway you can tell me what to look for and I'll check if interested.

As for the 60Hz and 96Hz, I have mine set to 60Hz even though I haven't tried 96Hz at all at this point. Even though someone posted recently they have been using 96 Hz with no flicker, I found some posts earlier on this thread I believe that stated there was flicker on certain scenes of movies so recommended to use 60 Hz. The motion seems very fluid and smooth so I haven't really had a desire or reason to swithc to 96 Hz. I posted recently a few pages back where I cut and pasted the scene of a movie where they noticed the flicker in 96 Hz. You should be able to find it.

Does any of this help? You are using D-Nice's settings so maybe you are better off than me at this point. I still feel like a kid on Christmas with the PQ in THX mode. I was watching Blade II on Dish and couldn't believe the detail in the dark scenes. I was literally in awe of the PQ. Not sure if others on here agree or not but I am getting Starz for free. The HD quality on these stations is easily better than blu-ray. Seriously there is absolutely no grain or noise with the HD PQ just crystal clear, much better than the HD content found on FX, TNT or other normal stations like this. I'm so amazed at the Starz and HD Net that when it runs out early next year, I'm paying to keep it.

Robert

This must be the longest post of someone saying "I.don't know" that I've ever seen LOL.

The color space settings he is referring to are on the blu-ray player not the TV. His question would probably best asked in the dedicated thread for that player
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post #2534 of 6373
10/31/11 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

This must be the longest post of someone saying "I.don't know" that I've ever seen LOL.

The color space settings he is referring to are on the blu-ray player not the TV. His question would probably best asked in the dedicated thread for that player



True, long winded I guess but with good intentions.

Still not sure why the color space on the BDP needs to be adjusted beyond the default setting? Is it trying to correct indirectly some issue?
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post #2535 of 6373
11/1/11 at 12:07am
Has anyone used this to test FBR?:

http://search.vimeo.com/26189718

I don't think I have it (EPROM 84.44) but want to make sure.
That video shows nothing odd looking when I pull it up on the TV.
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post #2536 of 6373
11/1/11 at 4:05am
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Originally Posted by robertrobert View Post


Great to hear Mo. I remember how frustrated you were so great to know the board did the trick. Good you hung in there with the hard work getting it figured out.

Enjoy!

Robert

Yeah it's about time! I mean I wasted hours of my life trying to get the pq right, now it's "normal". My wife has noted a huge difference too. So those of u who think pq might not be right get the board swapped because it made a huge difference to our tv. Now I'm actually watching tv not fiddling with the settings!
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post #2537 of 6373
11/1/11 at 5:45am
Hey robertrobert, no worries, and thanks for helping out with the 60/96Hz thing (though I don't know why you would turn off the 24p processing from the Blu-ray player...that just seems odd).

The color space setting is in the Blu-ray player's menu, but I figured I would ask here since we all own the same display.
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post #2538 of 6373
11/1/11 at 6:04am
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Originally Posted by JohnnytheSkin View Post

Hey robertrobert, no worries, and thanks for helping out with the 60/96Hz thing (though I don't know why you would turn off the 24p processing from the Blu-ray player...that just seems odd).

The color space setting is in the Blu-ray player's menu, but I figured I would ask here since we all own the same display.

Your BD player should be setup to send a 4:2:2 color type, 1080p/24 On not Off, and Deep Color Off.
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post #2539 of 6373
11/1/11 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post


Your BD player should be setup to send a 4:2:2 color type, 1080p/24 On not Off, and Deep Color Off.

D-NICE,

Although my previous TV was an HDTV (1080i) it was a CRT. My 55VT30 is my first flat panel and my first plasma so I'm still learning.

My question is in regards to having deep color "off" instead of "on" on my BR player. After turning it on (PS3), the colors do become deeper and more dramatic but I see no degradation in picture quality whatsoever.

What's the reason for having it off? I'm just curious and will turn it off if its beneficial performance wise to do so.

Thanks for the input and taking the time to reply.
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post #2540 of 6373
11/1/11 at 7:25am
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D-NICE,

Although my previous TV was an HDTV (1080i) it was a CRT. My 55VT30 is my first flat panel and my first plasma so I'm still learning.

My question is in regards to having deep color "off" instead of "on" on my BR player. After turning it on (PS3), the colors do become deeper and more dramatic but I see no degradation in picture quality whatsoever.

What's the reason for having it off? I'm just curious and will turn it off if its beneficial performance wise to do so.

Thanks for the input and taking the time to reply.

IMO you thinking you see deeper colors is a placebo. There are zero games and zero video (excluding home made videos) that are created with Deep Color attributes. Feel free to continue using it, but all you are seeing are additional zeros being added to an 8 bit signal.
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post #2541 of 6373
11/1/11 at 7:30am
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Originally Posted by JohnnytheSkin View Post

Hey robertrobert, no worries, and thanks for helping out with the 60/96Hz thing (though I don't know why you would turn off the 24p processing from the Blu-ray player...that just seems odd).

The color space setting is in the Blu-ray player's menu, but I figured I would ask here since we all own the same display.



I don't have my 24p processing turned off, sorry if I conveyed that. In my Panasonic BDP, there is a way you can set what type of display is being used including 1080p / 24 but there is also an Auto setting. I debated whether to put at 1080p / 24 or Auto so just left to Auto for now. It says under Auto that the BDP will determine it automatically. Is this okay or should I set it to 1080p / 24? Besides this, I don't believe on the Panasonic BD80 that there is a setting for 96 Hz. I know I've been through all the menus recently and don't remember being asked to choose 60 Hz or 96 Hz so not sure what to think about this. Any thoughts? I looked in the manual last night and didn't see anything related to 96 Hz for video. I do have my VT30 set to 60 Hz however.

Also not sure where in my BDP menu to set 4:2:2 that you mention.

Robert
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post #2542 of 6373
11/1/11 at 7:33am
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

IMO you thinking you see deeper colors is a placebo. There are zero games and zero video (excluding home made videos) that are created with Deep Color attributes. Feel free to continue using it, but all you are seeing are additional zeros being added to an 8 bit signal.

So is leaving Deep color ON actually hurting anything or is it just a worthless setting?
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post #2543 of 6373
11/1/11 at 7:36am
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Originally Posted by Boofster View Post

Has anyone used this to test FBR?:

http://search.vimeo.com/26189718

I don't think I have it (EPROM 84.44) but want to make sure.
That video shows nothing odd looking when I pull it up on the TV.


No reason for me to try it since I have the fix in my display. If your display is under warrranty than probably best to put in a call. If not and you don't see FBr yet, then I would say enjoy since some on here have said not every single VT30 prior to the August builds have the FBr issue.

Robert
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post #2544 of 6373
11/1/11 at 7:49am
Anyone notice any false pink/magenta banding/contouring with this TV? I see this with my older plasma. By false I mean the pink should not be there at all. It is most common in cloudy, snowy or smokey scenes and can be distracting?
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post #2545 of 6373
11/1/11 at 7:54am
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So is leaving Deep color ON actually hurting anything or is it just a worthless setting?

It can hurt the image and is definitely a worthless feature.
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post #2546 of 6373
11/1/11 at 7:55am
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

It can hurt the image and is definitely a worthless feature.

Ok and I assume this is true for all BD players and TVs including my Kuro?
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post #2547 of 6373
11/1/11 at 7:55am
before my 65vt30 gets here....crossing fingers on a aug or later build. ordered from amazon coming out of there indiana center.
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post #2548 of 6373
11/1/11 at 8:47am
Hey guys I have my tv over a year now will panasonic still Chang my board out. Or it's to late because I have had the tv over a year now
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post #2549 of 6373
11/1/11 at 8:54am
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Ok and I assume this is true for all BD players and TVs including my Kuro?

That ia correct
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post #2550 of 6373
11/1/11 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by camaro27 View Post

Hey guys I have my tv over a year now will panasonic still Chang my board out. Or it's to late because I have had the tv over a year now


I'm sure they will but guessing you'll need to pay for it since after warranty unless you extended it but guess you can ask since a design flaw, asking is the only way you'll know.

Robert
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