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Originally Posted by spinn74 View Post

Are you guys using HD Size 1 or 2?

HD size 2. 1 scales the image while 2 gives you the full resolution image.
post #3122 of 6435
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

So does the serial number on the box tell you what month of build the tv is? Is there a certain number the set should be to know that you already have the fix?


Not positive about the sticker on the box but the information is listed on the back of the display. All August or later builds should have the fix even though it has been confirmed that some of the displays on earlier months have the fix in place. For the 55" VT30, the fix is in displays with s/n's higher than LL such as MJ that is common for August builds. Still best to use the procedure listed many times on this thread to check if the latest EEPROM has been installed to know for sure.

Robert
post #3123 of 6435
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Originally Posted by robertrobert View Post

Not positive about the sticker on the box but the information is listed on the back of the display. All August or later builds should have the fix even though it has been confirmed that some of the displays on earlier months have the fix in place. For the 55" VT30, the fix is in displays with s/n's higher than LL such as MJ that is common for August builds. Still best to use the procedure listed many times on this thread to check if the latest EEPROM has been installed to know for sure.

Robert

Watch it with the MJ series. I have one (65VT30) and is a May build. Supposedly anything with the following serial or higher should have the updated eeprom (according with Value Electronics in a post in that other website)

XX1215XXXX

Mine is MJ1145 and was not updated so...

This is identifiable on the side of the box. Hope this helps.

MrJai
post #3124 of 6435
Guys make sure to check the EEPROM in the service menu. I have a July build with the updated EEPROM and no brightness fluctuation.
post #3125 of 6435
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Originally Posted by robertrobert View Post

Sorry, forgot the link:

http://www.isfforum.com/sobi2/ISF-Fo...ed-States.html


Dave Abrams is listed under Avical.

Many thanks Robert. I will contact him.

Sincerely
Anders
post #3126 of 6435
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Originally Posted by fcwdev View Post

Where did you buy from?

When you ask about where he purchased his tv from are you asking because you want to know who the vendor was because Panasonic won't fix tvs sold by certain vendors, or for another reason?
post #3127 of 6435
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Originally Posted by LASwede View Post

As a side note: Does anyone know of a really good calibrator in the Los Angeles area? I am looking for someone that can bring out the best in my 65VT30...

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Originally Posted by robertrobert View Post

Dave Abrams is in your area. I believe you won't find better.

You can read owner's calibration reports using the link at the bottom of my post. Look for David's work on plasma displays in the second post.

Enjoy.
post #3128 of 6435
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Originally Posted by ZZtop View Post

When you ask about where he purchased his tv from are you asking because you want to know who the vendor was because Panasonic won't fix tvs sold by certain vendors, or for another reason?

I am looking to buy this TV and am not interesting in dealing with the floating brights issue. My top 3 vendors are currently Amazon, Best Buy and PC richards and I'm currious if any of these are shipping pre-August builds.
post #3129 of 6435
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

Sounds like a defective plasma. Panny is known for their service (much better than Samsung). I bet you get a new TV (and keep calling them until you're satisfied).

Update. I am now on my 4th rep one MONTH later and I still have not received a single call back. They won't even give me the time of day! Each time I practically beg them to have a supervisor call me back and they promise to do so and never do. Their customer service is awful!

I really need some advice and back-up on this. A useless TV four months later seems a tad extreme. Do you guys think Cleveland Plasma might be able to help on my behalf? Maybe I should contact them? I just can't afford to lose $4400 on a TV a few months later.

Thanks!

-Brian
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Can someone post their PS3 video settings?
post #3131 of 6435
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Originally Posted by MrJai View Post

Watch it with the MJ series. I have one (65VT30) and is a May build. Supposedly anything with the following serial or higher should have the updated eeprom (according with Value Electronics in a post in that other website)

XX1215XXXX

Mine is MJ1145 and was not updated so...

This is identifiable on the side of the box. Hope this helps.

MrJai



You have a 65" VT30. I mentioned the MJ being for the 55" VT30 since that is what someone else posted on this thread.

Robert
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

You can read owner's calibration reports using the link at the bottom of my post. Look for David's work on plasma displays in the second post.

Enjoy.



Thanks!!! I'll do that.

Still I'm surprised folks don't really post much post calibration. I'm kind of scratching my head why some on the other forum that had their displays calibrated are very impatient with Panasonic not addressing the color decoding issue. Seems it shouldn't matter after an ISF calibration was done. Someone did post on the other forum that they could not detect any color issues after the calibrations and feel they are far pickier than most. Maybe it is just a matter of insisting Panasonic correct the issue even if not a real issue after the display is calibrated.

Robert
post #3133 of 6435
just got my Black Friday delivery confirmation on my 55vt30 and I was hoping to see what comes about with the beta luminance fix I've read about a week or two ago that was being tested by a poster here.

will miss having a big screen on turkey day with all them football games
post #3134 of 6435
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Originally Posted by fcwdev View Post

I am looking to buy this TV and am not interesting in dealing with the floating brights issue. My top 3 vendors are currently Amazon, Best Buy and PC richards and I'm currious if any of these are shipping pre-August builds.

I have received two sets from Amazon from their Tennessee warehouse as best I can gather, and both have been august or later.
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I am looking at the Sony 55hx929 and Panasonic 55 or 65vt30. I am torn between the 2 of them. My local stores don't have both to compare side by side I have to go from one store then to the other store. Set me in the right direction by helping me decide. Thanks for your help in advance
post #3136 of 6435
So how do you check the EEPROM again? Is there a way to see it without going into the service menu?
post #3137 of 6435
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Originally Posted by oakleyman View Post

I am looking at the Sony 55hx929 and Panasonic 55 or 65vt30. I am torn between the 2 of them. My local stores don't have both to compare side by side I have to go from one store then to the other store. Set me in the right direction by helping me decide. Thanks for your help in advance

I haven't seen the Sony or rather, maybe I have but didn't realize that it was the particular model you mentioned since I've been to Best Buy a lot lately for blu-ray deals. I always go by the TVs even though I bought a 55VT30 about 2 months ago.

I'm very, very happy with mine and have never wondered if I could have done better for the price. This is a highly regarded, top tier TV that belongs at the top of its class.

Truly excellent picture quality, deep, dark blacks, no motion blur on fast moving images, superb 3D performance and its great looking cosmetically to boot.

Hope that helps, good luck.
post #3138 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Bghead8che View Post

I really need some advice and back-up on this. A useless TV four months later seems a tad extreme. Do you guys think Cleveland Plasma might be able to help on my behalf? Maybe I should contact them? I just can't afford to lose $4400 on a TV a few months later.

Good idea. It can't hurt. They may have contacts at Panasonic to help expedite.
post #3139 of 6435
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

So how do you check the EEPROM again? Is there a way to see it without going into the service menu?

How to get into service menu (Note that you can damage your TV if you don't know what you are doing; so stop now if you are nervous)
1. Turn TV On.
2. With TV on, hold down the volume down (-) button on the right side of the TV (not the controller).
3. While holding the volume (-) button down, point the remote at the TV IR sensor and press the "info" button on the controller three times.
4. The service menu will pop up after a few seconds.

The default screen that pops up is where it has all the software info will be; don't push any other buttons. When you are done turn the TV off or unplug it.
post #3140 of 6435
Hey guys if I messed around with the service menu and messed with the settings, then had my a-board replaced, would the settings still be the same, or would the a-board replace everything?


I was pretty happy with the PQ after I got the A-board replaced, but now I'm back to not being happy with it on my vt30 55. Something about it still bothers me, so I'm getting professional calibration this weekend, I hope it does something.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by valhalla View Post

I have received two sets from Amazon from their Tennessee warehouse as best I can gather, and both have been august or later.

My 65 inch VT is scheduled for Saturday delivery. Seems a bit odd, but glad to get the set. It's coming from the Indiana Amazon warehouse.
post #3142 of 6435
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Originally Posted by ZZtop View Post

My 65 inch VT is scheduled for Saturday delivery. Seems a bit odd, but glad to get the set. It's coming from the Indiana Amazon warehouse.

The one I ordered a couple of weeks ago came from Indiana and was a September build.
post #3143 of 6435
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Originally Posted by mohanman View Post

Hey guys if I messed around with the service menu and messed with the settings, then had my a-board replaced, would the settings still be the same, or would the a-board replace everything?


I was pretty happy with the PQ after I got the A-board replaced, but now I'm back to not being happy with it on my vt30 55. Something about it still bothers me, so I'm getting professional calibration this weekend, I hope it does something.
Thanks

I think that's a smart decision. Please let us know how you like it afterwards.
post #3144 of 6435
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Originally Posted by oakleyman View Post

I am looking at the Sony 55hx929 and Panasonic 55 or 65vt30. I am torn between the 2 of them. My local stores don't have both to compare side by side I have to go from one store then to the other store. Set me in the right direction by helping me decide. Thanks for your help in advance

This is a dangerous question to try to answer in this thread I will preface my impressions by saying these are just my personal opinions, and I would certainly respect other's opinions if they disagree. For a more scientific, expert, professional comparisons, I would definately recommend searching this thread for the Value Electronics HDTV comparison from this year.

I auditioned both back to back at Fry's while I was on vacation.

If you want a blazingly bright picture (including an amazingly bright 3D picture) the 929 has this in spades. The picture pops and is impressive right out of the box. The blacks are also very dark, and the television is superior in terms of energy efficiency. The viewing angle is important with this one, but if you can wrangle the "big daddy" seat in the house or if you have a very bright viewing situation that needs the extra brightness, this might be your ticket.

I eventually went with VT30--although I don't think it shows as well in showrooms because of it's out of the box dimmer picture right next to the 929. The reasons for me were: a far superior viewing angle, no blurs with motion, no blooming, excellent blacks, etc. In addition, there is just something more pleasing to me about a plasma picture as opposed to an LCD.

The support in this thread as opposed to the Sony thread also made a difference to me as well.

They are both great TV's--I really don't think you can go wrong with either.
post #3145 of 6435
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Originally Posted by LASwede View Post

Many thanks Robert. I will contact him.

Sincerely
Anders

I will be in LA next month. PM sent.
post #3146 of 6435
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

The one I ordered a couple of weeks ago came from Indiana and was a September build.

Thanks for the info DavidHir
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So on my PS3...

RGB Full Range Limited or Full?

Super-White On or Off?

Deep Color Output Auto or Off?

24 Hz On or Auto?

BD/DVD Video Output Format Auto or RGB or Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr

Thanks!
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Here's a question for the experts. I was watching the BluRay version of Super 8 (great movie), and noticed in several dark, night-time scenes with lights in the background of the movie (street lights, etc) annoying blue glare/blue lines across the screen. I thought there might be a problem with either my Panny 110 BluRay player or my VT30. I changed some settings on the player (such as turning 24p to off) to no avail. But I brought the BluRay disc upstairs and tried it in my 51FD/Panny X2 LCD and saw the exact same artifacts, so it's obviously on the disc itself and not a problem with the Panny 110 or VT30. I have noticed it in another BluRay movie, but not while watching TV programs.

Have others seen these types of artifacts in BluRay movies? What is it? Any settings on either the display or player to reduce this? Thanks.
LL
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

Here's a question for the experts. I was watching the BluRay version of Super 8 (great movie), and noticed in several dark, night-time scenes with lights in the background of the movie (street lights, etc) annoying blue glare/blue lines across the screen. I thought there might be a problem with either my Panny 110 BluRay player or my VT30. I changed some settings on the player (such as turning 24p to off) to no avail. But I brought the BluRay disc upstairs and tried it in my 51FD/Panny X2 LCD and saw the exact same artifacts, so it's obviously on the disc itself and not a problem with the Panny 110 or VT30. I have noticed it in another BluRay movie, but not while watching TV programs.

Have others seen these types of artifacts in BluRay movies? What is it? Any settings on either the display or player to reduce this? Thanks.

I am no AV-expert, but this I know. If it is a JJ Abrams movie, it is normal. It s kind of one of his "trademarks..."
You can see the same thing on his Star Trek movie albeit in a lesser degree than in Super 8. It is equally visible when watching the film on the big screen.
post #3150 of 6435
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Originally Posted by spinn74 View Post

So on my PS3...

RGB Full Range Limited or Full?

Super-White On or Off?

Deep Color Output Auto or Off?

24 Hz On or Auto?

BD/DVD Video Output Format Auto or RGB or Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr

Thanks!

Don't you wish these features/settings were better explained not only in the PS3 manual BUT also the VT30 manual? Exactly what these features/settings do and mean and exactly how they should be set for best performance should really be explained but isn't so we're left guessing and using the trial and error method.

RGB - I read that it should almost always be left set on LIMITED' but I believe the VT30 can handle FULL' so I have it set to FULL'. Someone else on this thread might know for sure which this should be set to for best performance. If so, I wonder what the detriment is to setting it to FULL' as opposed to LIMITED'.

SUPER WHITE - Again, I'm not absolutely positive that it's the correct or best setting for the VT30 but I have SUPER WHITE set to ON' because I can't imagine that the VT30 doesn't support it and although I don't remember specifically reading about it in the VT30s manual, I think this particular feature/setting is mentioned.

DEEP COLOR - I believe the VT30 supports DEEP COLOR so I initially had it set to ON' but others on this thread including D-NICE said to leave it off. I'll say this regarding this feature, with the PS3 on and the PS3s cross media bar backsplash/background on the screen, I do see a difference in color when I toggle the DEEP COLOR feature on/off. With it ON' the background does get darker/deeper in color than when it's off. Now as far as what effect it has on viewing content, that I cannot say. I had only noticed a change in the color of the PS3s cross media bar/menu/background but since those colors became deeper when DEEP COLOR was set to ON', I figured it had to mean the VT30 supports this feature and therefore I left it on. After D-NICE said leave it off I've left it set to OFF' because I figure as a professional calibrator he'd know a lot better than me. That's one hell of an explanation only to really just be telling you that I have it set to off but I don't think it hurts anything to have it on if you see a difference and like that difference. Whew! Sorry for the drawn out answer on DEEP COLOR.

24 HZ - I initially had it set to AUTO' but read somewhere that the PS3 doesn't always choose the correct setting when set to AUTO' so it was suggested to set 24hz to ON' which I now have it. Also, I've read that the VT30 does handle 24fps correctly when set to 60hz, just FYI.

BD/DVD VIDEO OUTPUT FORMAT - Again, this is another setting that isn't really explained well as to which setting is BEST for the VT3O. I had it set to AUTO' but recently changed it to 'Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr' and haven't noticed much of a difference if any at all in the picture.

These are the settings I'm using and I haven't seen or noticed any issues or problems with them.

I'm hoping someone else on this thread knows FOR SURE how these features should be set, unlike me like me who is using the above stated settings but isn't sure these settings are getting 'THE BEST' possible performance out of my VT30 pretty much using the trial and error method. I'm sure there's someone else here that not only knows how these features should be set but also knows why they should be set the way they suggest also.

Anyway, I hope I've been somewhat helpful at least. Good luck.
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