Official Panasonic 2011 TC-PxxVT30 Series Thread Discussion Thread [No Price Talk] - Page 106

Originally Posted by BillP

Here's a question for the experts. I was watching the BluRay version of Super 8 (great movie), and noticed in several dark, night-time scenes with lights in the background of the movie (street lights, etc) annoying blue glare/blue lines across the screen. I thought there might be a problem with either my Panny 110 BluRay player or my VT30. I changed some settings on the player (such as turning 24p to off) to no avail. But I brought the BluRay disc upstairs and tried it in my 51FD/Panny X2 LCD and saw the exact same artifacts, so it's obviously on the disc itself and not a problem with the Panny 110 or VT30. I have noticed it in another BluRay movie, but not while watching TV programs.

Have others seen these types of artifacts in BluRay movies? What is it? Any settings on either the display or player to reduce this? Thanks.

Originally Posted by DavidHir


It's just a stupid, extremely annoying filming technique known as "lens flare."

Originally Posted by DavidHir

It's just a stupid, extremely annoying filming technique known as "lens flare."

Originally Posted by BillP

Here's a question for the experts. I was watching the BluRay version of Super 8 (great movie), and noticed in several dark, night-time scenes with lights in the background of the movie (street lights, etc) annoying blue glare/blue lines across the screen. I thought there might be a problem with either my Panny 110 BluRay player or my VT30. I changed some settings on the player (such as turning 24p to off) to no avail. But I brought the BluRay disc upstairs and tried it in my 51FD/Panny X2 LCD and saw the exact same artifacts, so it's obviously on the disc itself and not a problem with the Panny 110 or VT30. I have noticed it in another BluRay movie, but not while watching TV programs.

Have others seen these types of artifacts in BluRay movies? What is it? Any settings on either the display or player to reduce this? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Gotchaa

Yep, we watched this last night, this is JJ Abrahms and crews artistic style, just check out Star Trek same thing, wife called it out as well...movie was like a modern version of ET with a Goonies like cast, good pacing throughout..

Happy Thanksgiving all!

Originally Posted by Sound & Vision

I see this often as well.... Mostly on HD sources. And just happen to watch Super 8 and saw it as you did.. I also noticed it on the latest Star Trek movie.

Originally Posted by oakleyman

Well I have decided to go with the vt30 over the hx929. Is it still recommended to run the slides for 125 hours? Also any links for slides?

Originally Posted by oakleyman

Well I have decided to go with the vt30 over the hx929. Is it still recommended to run the slides for 125 hours? Also any links for slides?

Originally Posted by LASwede

I am no AV-expert, but this I know. If it is a JJ Abrams movie, it is normal. It s kind of one of his "trademarks..."
You can see the same thing on his Star Trek movie albeit in a lesser degree than in Super 8. It is equally visible when watching the film on the big screen.

Originally Posted by DavidHir

It's just a stupid, extremely annoying filming technique known as "lens flare."

Originally Posted by Gotchaa

Yep, we watched this last night, this is JJ Abrahms and crews artistic style, just check out Star Trek same thing, wife called it out as well...

Originally Posted by Rhialto

Recommended ONLY if you plan to do a professionnal calibration early. If not then just enjoy your TV. Too many think they will ruin their unit (or something similar) if they don't run slides... that's what happen when you read too much on internet (or not enough, depends).

In the user manual, never Panasonic ask to runs slides nor provides a CD to do so.

Someone posted a long post on this ...

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post21233825

Originally Posted by sl1200mk2

The 55VT30 is my first plasma too. It was only until reading this thread and forum (researching the TV) that I'd ever heard of "breaking in" any display and I consider myself highly tech savvy. I got seriously worked up and stressed out about it convincing myself I wasn't going to watch any 'normal' content until 150hrs of slides had been reached.

I have nothing against the various procedures or those who are following them for whatever reason (e.g. using someones calibration settings). For me, I just decided to be smart about my viewing habits and enjoy the device for what I bought it for... watching TV and movies. I have played around with the slides and have let them run for 30-45 minutes a few different times only to help me get up to the 150hrs for a calibration.

I set movies on THX mode and STB content on Cinema mode keeping the brightness and contrast below 55 on each. I try to watch all full screen HD content and vary it so I'm not watching anything with persistent logos for more than 1 hr and let the commercials play a bit to vary the screen in between (when logos are present). Any blu-ray movies with letterbox I just zoom in and get it to display full screen. It still looks amazing. My wife hasn't followed my tyrannical instructions 100% and a couple times I've intervened her watching SD content that wasn't zoomed. Hasn't happened for more than an hour.

I just checked today and I've got 75 hrs on the unit. According to the service menu, I've turned the unit on 44 times the past three and a half weeks. Bottom line, it looks absolutely gorgeous and stunning. No IR, no burn in, slides look perfect to my anxiety filled eyes. I can't see a single defect with my set... including the dreaded FBr (unless I just haven't run across it yet).

At the end of the day, if you want to run the slides, run them, but don't be afraid to watch normal content sensibly. It's an amazing TV... enjoy it!

Originally Posted by robertrobert

... I'm kind of scratching my head why some on the other forum that had their displays calibrated are very impatient with Panasonic not addressing the color decoding issue. Seems it shouldn't matter after an ISF calibration was done.

Originally Posted by ZZtop

Can someone post how to check the number of hours in the service menu or the link to a page with instructions. I have read several dozen pages of the thread and learned a great deal, but have not seen a post describing how to check the number of hours on the tv.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by robertrobert

Thanks!!! I'll do that.

Still I'm surprised folks don't really post much post calibration. I'm kind of scratching my head why some on the other forum that had their displays calibrated are very impatient with Panasonic not addressing the color decoding issue. Seems it shouldn't matter after an ISF calibration was done. Someone did post on the other forum that they could not detect any color issues after the calibrations and feel they are far pickier than most. Maybe it is just a matter of insisting Panasonic correct the issue even if not a real issue after the display is calibrated.

Robert

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

I have a n-class router and decided to link up the VT30.

While I can connect to the local router, I can't seem to obtain an IP address. Therefore, I have no internet access on the set.

I've tried leaving everything on auto, but no IP. I then entered the correct values manually with still no joy. (The IP/Subnet/Gateway/DNS numbers were doublechecked)

What is perplexing is that my Panasonic Blu-ray player connects to the internet via my WiFi network with ease.

It doesn't matter much I suppose since I can get to VieraCast via the blu-ray player, but I was wondering what I'm doing wrong.

Also, as a side note: has anyone successfully used the WiFi adaptor without using the base with the cord?

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan


Still no joy. I can connect to the router, but not to the internet.

Has anyone successfully used wireless on the VT30? If so, may I please ask what router you have? Are you using 2.4 or 5 GHz? Do you have any security features turned on? What about uPNP? What signal strength are you getting at the TV?

Did you use the base with the panasonic USB WiFi adaptor or did you hook it straight into the TV?

What makes this extra silly is that the Panasonic 310 BRP hooks up wirelessly just fine at the same location.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

Still no joy. I can connect to the router, but not to the internet.

Has anyone successfully used wireless on the VT30? If so, may I please ask what router you have? Are you using 2.4 or 5 GHz? Do you have any security features turned on? What about uPNP? What signal strength are you getting at the TV?

Did you use the base with the panasonic USB WiFi adaptor or did you hook it straight into the TV?

What makes this extra silly is that the Panasonic 310 BRP hooks up wirelessly just fine at the same location.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Gotchaa

This should not be an issue for you it works fine with wireless, can you validate when your connected what the IP address of the TV is, do you see the IP and mac address of the TV in your routers DHCP lease log? Your router should 2.4ghz as well as 5ghz.

Originally Posted by nevea2be

I use a Cisco E4200 and just the standard wireless adaptor that came with the TV set. I think I only setup a password for my router and nothing else but it's been a while. I connect at 5GHz and it usually doesn't connect the very first time I try to connect to the Internet but does on the second try.

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

Thanks! I appreciate your reply.

That's my router as well. Did you just leave all of the television settings on "automatic" in terms of the IP assignment and DNS?

Also, what signal strength are you reading at the TV? (I am wondering if I bump my wireless signal with a range extender, that might help.)

Finally, I'm using WPA2/AES. Are you using that as well?

Originally Posted by nevea2be


Settings on TV are IP and DNS set at automatic. WPA2-PSK (personal).

Router is WPA2/WPA mixed mode and DHCP at automatic configuration. Windows 7 SP1 with Firmware 1.0.03 Build 14. Five bars on the TV.

Originally Posted by Gotchaa

Try these settings

Originally Posted by DavidHir

Because there is no ISF calibration that can completely "fix" the color decoding in the VT30. It technically still has inaccurate color decoding after the fact. However, a skilled calibrator can do the most to "work around" this and still achieve very good color for the most part. (How much one can see or notice the issues is another matter although most calibrators will tell you they can see it's still not spot on. In addition, some calibrators have stated how the grayscale acts a bit funny and not remaining stable which also may affect things.)

What some people are confusing repeatedly on the forums in regards to this issue is color luminance. Luminance (brightness) and decoding (RGB conversion and plotting) are two different things. The luminance update that has been getting worked on by Panasonic does not affect decoding; two different issues.

D-Nice's presentation at the Shootout does a good job of explaining the issue, including how the VT30 was incorrectly displaying blue instead of purple during a broadcast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c1Riodb8Wo

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan


Just tried them--can connect, but no IP assignment. Firmwares are all up to date. Other devices, ipad, blu-ray, etc. all able to connect to internet.

The only difference is that I only get 2 bars at the TV. I wonder if putting a wireless range extender would help with the signal and perhaps allow the connection, or is that a futile hope?

Originally Posted by jconjason

I had the same problem you have been describing when I had a VT25, since I've gone wired on a VT30, but back then someone mentioned the issue was with panasonic televisions and the wireless password needing to be all uppercase characters when you enter them, and sure enough it worked. Give it a try.

Originally Posted by Gotchaa

All, posting for the benefit of AVS VT30 owners, this was posted on HDJ yesterday. The latest update has been posted on Panasonic's site listed for "Professional Installers" since 11/11, a few days after they told Robert@VE it would be. It is similar to the update applied to the VE panel with the exception of improved CMS control. It does not address the color decoder issue to satisfaction. A full detailed report was provided to Panasonic engineers in NJ and Japan last week. Findings were confirmed.

While the software is posted by Panasonic and ready for download, it is pending evaluation on further enhancement. I was asked not to post the link until we hear back on what if anything further will be done, but you can find it on the HDJ VT30 calibration thread from a resourceful member. At the very least, you will have code used on the VE shootout panel, at best further enhancement that may address color decoding. I am not optimistic on the latter.

This will not be a network software update, it will only be downloadable and installed via USB/SD in secure format and will be listed for Professional Installers. It will not wipe out your settings, however it will alter a pro calibration if you choose to apply it.

This update is ONLY recommended to those DIY calibrators and Pro Calibrators that would benefit from improved control and more headroom. I would NOT recommend this current build on any set that has already been Pro calibrated, as your set should already be close to ideal as qualified calibrators have techniques to get this set looking great without the update. It will not be accurate with internet posted settings, you still need to desaturate color (43-46 seems to be a good average) .

To date the ONLY update that I believe is warranted prior to a calibration is the fBR EEPROM firmware.

Again, this update will help calibrators but it does NOT fix the color decoder issue.

Use at your own risk.