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post #331 of 6435
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Originally Posted by NorthTV View Post

Given that do you agree that $199 Best Buy Calibration is well worth it if one does not have access to Chad or D-Nice?

Depends on the Calibrator. I have two plasmas one done by Best Buy(he did a respectable job) and one done by Chad_b(incredible outcome). The Best Buy calibrators are constrained by time and do not ask near as many questions etc. Chad spent over 3 hours on my set and was more than willing to tweak anything until I was completely satisfied. So imo Best Buy result can not compare to what a highly skilled calibrator can do but still worth the investment if you get one that is dedicated to producing a good outcome.
post #332 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Techlord View Post


The easiest way to do it yourself and still get great results is by using a calibration disc like Spears & Munsil Blu Ray Calibration Disc, you should check out the Display Calibration section here on AVS. Spears & Munsil has test patterns and all sorts of test images, first you want to get you contrast and brightness under control as these two controls can washout your colors.

Techlord

I to was wondering about this so thanks!!
In regards to the Blu-ray, is that locked to region A? I love in the UK so need a B disc!

Thanks again!!
post #333 of 6435
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just checked my 65VT30 and the top and bottom corners are all tucked in under the silver bezel. It's even all the way around on mine. Hope this helps, although it's probably not what you wanted to hear.

same here, but on a 55"
post #334 of 6435
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Do the speakers bulge out in the back? Where do they bulge out, bottom, top or sides?

the back of the tv is basically flat...and I can see under the panel (i.e.bottom), looking from the front, a screen mesh for sound. In other words, the speakers are not a seperate dimension in terms of depth and are part of the height of the tv.
post #335 of 6435
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Originally Posted by WiFi-Spy View Post

Your source may be cropping a few pixels.

What pattern are you using to check 1:1 mapping?

The windows desktop simply.

But you know what I found the trick. I'm getting the problem after changing the aspect ratio from the remote button or the menu. If I simply turn off and on the TV while on "full", the 1:1 becomes perfect!

I would be curious if someone could try this from let say a blu-ray reader? To test simply go to a scene where the upper left corner of the screen shows something bright and pause it. Now using the tv remote press the aspect ratio button of the remote to alternate between all modes and when back to "full" notice if the left side of the tv gray box writing "full" is more to the left than the blu-ray image under?

I really couldn't see why this would happen only with HTPC and not a Blu-Ray reader...
post #336 of 6435
BB calibrations are $150, not $199, and they calibrate two inputs - and do isf day and isf night on each one.

Best value if you get a good calibrator for sure, but either way, I'd wait for firmware to fix the issues the VT series has apparently. Calibrate afterwards. I'm waiting until the firmware comes out before even buying this thing to upgrade from my v-10
post #337 of 6435
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Originally Posted by John Kramer View Post

...snip...

I'd wait for firmware to fix the issues the VT series has apparently. Calibrate afterwards. I'm waiting until the firmware comes out before even buying this thing to upgrade from my v-10


Good thinking. I've been burned before.

Its funny how this thread talks about technical problems and the Samsung D8000 thread is about how to get the free 3D glasses. That should tell you something.
post #338 of 6435
Does anyone know if the latest firmware for VT30 is released yet?
post #339 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Bardia View Post

Does anyone know if the latest firmware for VT30 is released yet?

Think it hits June!
post #340 of 6435
Maybe I should just get damm 60" Kuro and call it a day.

But then I have to get firmwared updates for that too I'm sure..
post #341 of 6435
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Originally Posted by NorthTV View Post

Given that do you agree that $199 Best Buy Calibration is well worth it if one does not have access to Chad or D-Nice?

There are several horror stories where BB calibration made it worse than before they started. IMO, I would not have BB calibrate my display for free!
post #342 of 6435
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Originally Posted by NorthTV View Post

Can one wait to do the 100 hours of slides or is there some reason it has to be done when you first get the TV.? At some point in time I will probably want to use D-Nice's settings, but as I understand it they are not even available yet for the VT-30's.

D-Nice very clearly writes in his settings thread that you MUST do the 100 hours with the slides first or you will not reproduce the results of his post-slide settings. This has to do with proper, uniform aging of the phosphors.
post #343 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post


There both great sets.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I'm really worried about your calibrator's expression of drab color in the panasonic. I don't like ridiculous overkill but I do appreciate color! I would want fleshtones to look right.

To all the pros/insiders: how confident can we be that Panasonic will improve the flaws in a firmware update?

I may just go with the Samsung otherwise.
post #344 of 6435
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

D-Nice very clearly writes in his settings thread that you MUST do the 100 hours with the slides first or you will not reproduce the results of his post-slide settings. This has to do with proper, uniform aging of the phosphors.

100 hours with slides? please explian
post #345 of 6435
How do these compare to the pro line TH-50PF20U?
post #346 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Bardia View Post

100 hours with slides? please explian

There are some plasma displays that have been calibrated by D-Nice. If, and only if, your have one of those models, you can follow D-Nice's procedure and then use his settings. According to D-Nice, it's no substitute for a professional calibration but can get your display within 5% of calibrated results.

As I understand it, there are posted settings for the ST30 series, but not for the VT30 series. The ST30 settings and instructions may be posted on another web site. You can look at the first several posts in this Kuro thread for examples.

The Official Pioneer 9G Kuro Settings/Issues Thread
post #347 of 6435
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

There are some plasma displays that have been calibrated by D-Nice. If, and only if, your have one of those models, you can follow D-Nice's procedure and then use his settings. According to D-Nice, it's no substitute for a professional calibration but can get your display within 5% of calibrated results.

As I understand it, there are posted settings for the ST30 series, but not for the VT30 series. The ST30 settings and instructions may be posted on another web site. You can look at the first several posts in this Kuro thread for examples.

The Official Pioneer 9G Kuro Settings/Issues Thread

In regards to that, for those settings it says for US only! Being a potential buyer, living in Scotland, would I be able to use those same settings!?

Sorry if that's a stupid question I'm new to the whole plasma TV thing!
post #348 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Allan1paxton View Post

In regards to that, for those settings it says for US only! Being a potential buyer, living in Scotland, would I be able to use those same settings!?

My understanding is that D-Nice is saying his settings can only be used on the same model that was also built for the US market if you expect to get the results that he got.

It seems to me that anything that deviates from D-Nice's exact instructions will effect the outcome. Whether you like the outcome would be up to you, but referring to the results as having come from D-Nice's settings wouldn't be fair to him.
post #349 of 6435
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

My understanding is that D-Nice is saying his settings can only be used on the same model that was also built for the US market if you expect to get the results that he got.

It seems to me that anything that deviates from D-Nice's exact instructions will effect the outcome. Whether you like the outcome would be up to you, but referring to the results as having come from D-Nice's settings wouldn't be fair to him.

Thanks for clearing that up!! I only wish we had the UK equivalent of D-Nice on these threads!!! I would be inclined to use his settings as a starting point and see how it goes from there!

Cheers

Allan
post #350 of 6435
Oh that reminds me!...anyone heard when Cnet will be reviewing the VT30!?
post #351 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Bardia View Post

100 hours with slides? please explian

The slides go through the major colors to properly and uniformly age the display. Some believe they are useful, and some believe they are unecessary. Check out this sticky thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949107
post #352 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Allan1paxton View Post

Thanks for clearing that up!! I only wish we had the UK equivalent of D-Nice on these threads!!! I would be inclined to use his settings as a starting point and see how it goes from there!

I've been reading the Pioneer Kuro threads for about four years. I think that D-Nice has constantly maintained that the results would be a starting point. For any of the Kuros that he posted settings for, he thought you would be within five percent of having a Kuro individually calibrated. I'm surprised that there aren't calibrators in your area. Have you checked the forums here?

AVForums
post #353 of 6435
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Originally Posted by John Kramer View Post

BB calibrations are $150, not $199, and they calibrate two inputs - and do isf day and isf night on each one.

From what has been said, and what I have read, seems like to good way to throw away $150.

I was thinking of getting a unit calibrated in my home by BB and having Chad pretend he was me, to see what happens. I think we need a third party as a witness, any volintiers?
post #354 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

From what has been said, and what I have read, seems like to good way to throw away $150.

I was thinking of getting a unit calibrated in my home by BB and having Chad pretend he was me, to see what happens. I think we need a third party as a witness, any volintiers?

That wouldn't tell you anything about BB country wide as your guy might be either at the top or bottom of the skill level scale where my local guy could be at the opposite extreme.

Just my opinion, a $150 calibration shouldn't be compared to a $350 calibration. Its a professional service (or at least should be) and for the most part, you get what you pay for. For $150, I wouldn't expect to get much.
post #355 of 6435
This thread isn't about calibrations, but I can tell you that the guy who works in my district in NY is a friend of mine, and he's very good. So if you live in central new York, $150 is a steal, but by all means, for those that cant stand BB for whatever reason, please, pay $400 elsewhere.
post #356 of 6435
Does anyone know if PRO-111FD and 101FD share the same stand??
post #357 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Bardia View Post

Does anyone know if PRO-111FD and 101FD share the same stand??

you should be inquiring in the Pioneer tv tread.
post #358 of 6435
I just got my 65" VT30 today. Hung it on a fairly low profile tilt mount. I have to say, this TV is jaw droppingly amazing. I have two 50" Kuro plasmas and I can say that this TV, to me, seems as good. When you add in all the extras that you get now, this is a definite buy.

My buddy and I put this TV on the wall and watched the Bruins and NCAA Lacrosse playoffs on it. We were blown away.

Granted, I am not someone with any way of measuring the stats on this TV, but to me, it looks fantastic. If you are waffling on pulling the trigger, I'd say do it. You will not regret it.
post #359 of 6435
Thank you for that. I'm curious, did you / will you have it calibrated? How do you feel about the color, especially the fleshtones?
post #360 of 6435
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Originally Posted by GregF View Post
Thank you for that. I'm curious, did you / will you have it calibrated? How do you feel about the color, especially the fleshtones?
Looks great to me. I've honestly only spent 2 hours with it so far, but the flesh tones look pretty spot on (I did notice a touch of red on Clint Eastwood in Sudden Impact...but that is probably not the best movie to use as a reference). I did notice some things in Sudden Impact (dust flying through the air, etc.) that I have never noticed before...may be just due to the sheer size of the set, but I have seen that movie 5-10 times. There is a chance I'll have it calibrated (my Kuros were professionally calibrated), but honestly, THX mode looks great. I am sure that it is not as accurate as the Kuros, but to my untrained eye, it pops. I have 0 complaints.

I'll also add that hockey/lacrosse were perfect on it. The advantages of plasma were obvious. No motion blur, perfect viewing angles from everywhere.
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