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post #5071 of 6373
Quote:
Originally Posted by pochoboy View Post

this is a bad bad bad post, hahahahaha, I'm tempted to to get that Panasonic package. Has anyone tried it? Would the autocal and a Pro calibrator setting be about the same? $550 would be worth about having 2 Professional calibrations, so it would be worth while if you want to keep your VT30 optimal

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Originally Posted by undecided View Post

OK maybe I am missing the sarcasm (or even the current usage of english) - but why is it a 'bad' (good?) post?

It is a legit question.

Maybe the answer is that the 'CalMAN AutoCal' for the Panasonic plasma's isn't ready for prime time - which seems to be the consensus.

But it is still fair for the op to ask the question.

Hopefully the next time you ask a question someone will treat you with respect.... or maybe even answer your question.

You mention it's not quite ready for primetime but will it provide a better result than using the aging slides and D-Nice settings?
post #5072 of 6373
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Originally Posted by M5Rahul View Post

Can someone please PM or point me to D-Nice's settings ?

Just took delivery of a 55VT30! [Nov 2011 build]

Thanks a ton!!!

You should start here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post21210910
post #5073 of 6373
Thanks for the response since I almost bit and bought!
Quote:
Originally Posted by undecided View Post

OK maybe I am missing the sarcasm (or even the current usage of english) - but why is it a 'bad' (good?) post?

It is a legit question.

Maybe the answer is that the 'CalMAN AutoCal' for the Panasonic plasma's isn't ready for prime time - which seems to be the consensus.

But it is still fair for the op to ask the question.

Hopefully the next time you ask a question someone will treat you with respect.... or maybe even answer your question.
post #5074 of 6373
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Originally Posted by joeloco View Post

Has anyone tried the CalMAN AutoCal?

http://store.spectracal.com/calman-d...c-package.html

Video http://spectracal.blogspot.com/2011/...onic-vt30.html

To reiterate Joe's excellent question: has anyone actually used this?

I haven't been able to find an actual review from an unbiased expert source yet, and would be interested if anyone had a link please.

However, at the current price, one could certainly get an outstanding professional calibration for less (depending on where you live).

(PS: The second link that Joe put up has shows the process of the software with the Panasonic. FWIW, here is some before/after video with a Sharp Elite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZbWoCXxxoM )
post #5075 of 6373
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Originally Posted by nevea2be View Post

Has anyone had any luck with getting more then 2.0 stereo from their TV to their receiver? It says it can be done I just don't understand how exactly.

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Originally Posted by sboychuck View Post

I have been trying to get better than 2.0 out of my GT30 as well. I posted in the soundbar forum. They have suggested I try an optical audio connection from my tv to the soundbar. I am going to get a 3 into 1 optical switcher and route the tv, directv box and ATV2 by optical to the soundbar. I do not know if it will work, as these devices are already connected to the TV by HDMI. I have the TV connected to the soundbar by HDMI ARC. The parts are cheap at Monoprice to test my theory.

It's not possible to get more than stereo output from any display from an external source.

Due to copyright restrictions, only the internal tuner for the display can output 5.1 audio if it's provided by the source. When the input to the display is coming from a cable box, disk player, or other external device the best you will get is stereo.
post #5076 of 6373
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

It's not possible to get more than stereo output from any display from an external source.

Due to copyright restrictions, only the internal tuner for the display can output 5.1 audio if it's provided by the source. When the input to the display is coming from a cable box, disk player, or other external device the best you will get is stereo.

After hours of messing with mine I discovered this too .
I use an optical from my satellite box to the receiver, works great.
Good to know that I didn't miss any settings though, thanks!
post #5077 of 6373
Just pick up a cheap A/V receiver and be done with it.
post #5078 of 6373
htwaits, thanks for the reply.

I thought that if I ran my Panny 310 BD player by HDMI directly to the Soundbar, and then used the Soundbar ARC HDMI connection to the ARC HDMI on the tv, I would get 5.1 out of the Soundbar. I am not using the TV for any audio at all. I have the Apple TV and DirecTV box connected by HDMI to the TV. I am going to try and run an HDMI Switcher as well and output everything to the Soundbar to see if that gives me 5.1. The HDMI ARC connection from the Soundbar to the Tv should give me the video part. If it works I will let you know. I am also going to try and use an Optical audio switcher. I have all the parts and cables. It cannot hurt to give it a shot. Thanks.
post #5079 of 6373
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Originally Posted by sboychuck View Post

htwaits, thanks for the reply.

I thought that if I ran my Panny 310 BD player by HDMI directly to the Soundbar, and then used the Soundbar ARC HDMI connection to the ARC HDMI on the tv, I would get 5.1 out of the Soundbar. I am not using the TV for any audio at all. I have the Apple TV and DirecTV box connected by HDMI to the TV. I am going to try and run an HDMI Switcher as well and output everything to the Soundbar to see if that gives me 5.1. The HDMI ARC connection from the Soundbar to the Tv should give me the video part. If it works I will let you know. I am also going to try and use an Optical audio switcher. I have all the parts and cables. It cannot hurt to give it a shot. Thanks.

Is a soundbar your only option?
post #5080 of 6373
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

It's not possible to get more than stereo output from any display from an external source.

Due to copyright restrictions, only the internal tuner for the display can output 5.1 audio if it's provided by the source. When the input to the display is coming from a cable box, disk player, or other external device the best you will get is stereo.

Does anyone know if this is the case when using built in tv apps, such as Netflix? Is Netflix limited to 2ch. via optical out as well with the VT30?
post #5081 of 6373
Yes, I am using only a Panny 520 Soundbar. Money is tight for an A/V receiver and speakers. The Soundbar sounds pretty good with the wireless sub. I got a very good price as well. I am just checking on my options for 5.1. I will try the experiment in the next few weeks with the HDMI and Optical Switchers. Thanks.
post #5082 of 6373
The 2.1 update loads automatically once it is detected. If you plug in the stick or card and it does not recognize it, you have a problem. I had to push a couple buttons on the remote when prompted. Hope that helps.
post #5083 of 6373
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Originally Posted by rupterr View Post

Does anyone know if this is the case when using built in tv apps, such as Netflix? Is Netflix limited to 2ch. via optical out as well with the VT30?

Quote:
Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

It's not possible to get more than stereo output from any display from an external source.

Due to copyright restrictions, only the internal tuner for the display can output 5.1 audio if it's provided by the source. When the input to the display is coming from a cable box, disk player, or other external device the best you will get is stereo.

rupterr

That's the issue were having now and trying to figure out.


htwaits

If understanding this correctly it says (on page 34) that the use of an HDAVI Control 5 allows:

Audio Return Channel
Audio Return Channel (ARC) is a function that enables digital sound signals to be sent via an HDMI cable back from the TV to a connected audio device.



On page 35 it says;

VIERA Link Connections under Connecting Home theater system/AV amp
HDMI 1 is recommended.

No optical cable is necessary when connecting a Home Theater supporting HDAVI control 5 with an HDMI
cable. Audio will be supported via ARC (Audio Return Channel) (p. 34)
HDMI cable
Optical cable
●One AV amp and one DVD recorder (DIGA) can be operated with this unit.


I'm guessing that means it can send back a reverse signal using the same HDMI cable? But I don't understand what HDAVI Control is or if my receiver even supports it?
post #5084 of 6373
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Originally Posted by nevea2be View Post

rupterr

That's the issue were having now and trying to figure out.

Thanks, I have not read this thread much. My AVR has no hdmi, so I was hoping I could get 5.1 with the vt50's optical out using the tv's Netflix app.
post #5085 of 6373
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Originally Posted by mvp2005fan View Post


To reiterate Joe's excellent question: has anyone actually used this?

I haven't been able to find an actual review from an unbiased expert source yet, and would be interested if anyone had a link please.

However, at the current price, one could certainly get an outstanding professional calibration for less (depending on where you live).

(PS: The second link that Joe put up has shows the process of the software with the Panasonic. FWIW, here is some before/after video with a Sharp Elite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZbWoCXxxoM )

The VT30 is a very challenging display to calibrate even for pros.

While CalMan's AutoCal technically works, the VT30 has so many quirks that it makes getting good results hard for someone without calibration experience.

If someone does decide to try it and are having a hard time, send me a PM and I can give you some tips.
post #5086 of 6373
Here are a couple pictures of my VT30 with a white screen. I'm just looking for some opinions as to whether or not my set has the green blob issue.
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post #5087 of 6373
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Originally Posted by pochoboy View Post

Thanks for the response since I almost bit and bought!

Apologies if I misread your post - some (others) are chastising me for disrespect. None meant - just a lack of comprehension on my part

You may want to check Chad's review including his last updates

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post20446626

In the other place (we can't link to) he also says

----------------
Update 10-05-11

Attaching the CalMAN workflow I made especially for the VT30. It uses a combination of automatic and manual calibration, and gives the best performance I have yet gotten with the VT30's ISF modes. It is free for anyone to use.
-----------

It seems to me (undecided) paying a professional to do the calibration probably remains the best option.
post #5088 of 6373
Quote:
Originally Posted by mvp2005fan View Post

To reiterate Joe's excellent question: has anyone actually used this?

I haven't been able to find an actual review from an unbiased expert source yet, and would be interested if anyone had a link please.

However, at the current price, one could certainly get an outstanding professional calibration for less (depending on where you live).

(PS: The second link that Joe put up has shows the process of the software with the Panasonic. FWIW, here is some before/after video with a Sharp Elite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZbWoCXxxoM )

Thanks for the video link. I was hoping Calman would be a good option to calibrate and do follow up calibrations if needed.
post #5089 of 6373
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Originally Posted by undecided View Post

Apologies if I misread your post - some (others) are chastising me for disrespect. None meant - just a lack of comprehension on my part

You may want to check Chad's review including his last updates

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post20446626

In the other place (we can't link to) he also says

----------------
Update 10-05-11

Attaching the CalMAN workflow I made especially for the VT30. It uses a combination of automatic and manual calibration, and gives the best performance I have yet gotten with the VT30's ISF modes. It is free for anyone to use.
-----------

It seems to me (undecided) paying a professional to do the calibration probably remains the best option.

Thanks for the post from Chad B. Looks like best option for amateurs like me is to get the Pro Calibration. Would of been nice if the AutoCal did a proper calibration
post #5090 of 6373
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

Here are a couple pictures of my VT30 with a white screen. I'm just looking for some opinions as to whether or not my set has the green blob issue.

It looks like there are some kind of green streaks in the first photo? My set doesn't have any of that. How does the dark grey slide look from the slides used to prep for D-nice settings?
post #5091 of 6373
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

Here are a couple pictures of my VT30 with a white screen. I'm just looking for some opinions as to whether or not my set has the green blob issue.

Yours seems pretty uniform.
post #5092 of 6373
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Originally Posted by terzaghi View Post


It looks like there are some kind of green streaks in the first photo? My set doesn't have any of that. How does the dark grey slide look from the slides used to prep for D-nice settings?

The lines are from the camera, not the TV.
post #5093 of 6373
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Originally Posted by mark_b View Post

Here are a couple pictures of my VT30 with a white screen. I'm just looking for some opinions as to whether or not my set has the green blob issue.

Looks like a regular VT30 just trying to do a white screen as best it can.

post #5094 of 6373
Then I agree, it looks ok. Many report that green and pink tints are worse on dark grey slides.
post #5095 of 6373
I'll try and get a better pic of the dark grey slide up tonight. The second pic is supposed to be the dark grey but the camera brightened it up for some reason.
post #5096 of 6373
OT

What is the proper tip amount for delivery into house, unpacking and putting on a stand?

VT30-65

HH
post #5097 of 6373
Is there certain settings to use that would make any blob more apparent if you have them or just the slides?
post #5098 of 6373
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Originally Posted by sboychuck View Post

htwaits, thanks for the reply.

I thought that if I ran my Panny 310 BD player by HDMI directly to the Soundbar, and then used the Soundbar ARC HDMI connection to the ARC HDMI on the tv, I would get 5.1 out of the Soundbar. I am not using the TV for any audio at all. I have the Apple TV and DirecTV box connected by HDMI to the TV. I am going to try and run an HDMI Switcher as well and output everything to the Soundbar to see if that gives me 5.1. The HDMI ARC connection from the Soundbar to the Tv should give me the video part. If it works I will let you know. I am also going to try and use an Optical audio switcher. I have all the parts and cables. It cannot hurt to give it a shot. Thanks.

After you try this, would you kindly post back (even if it doesn't work). Atlantic Technology has a powered H-PAS soundbar coming out, and I'm hopeful the connecitons you describe will work. (It should in theory).
post #5099 of 6373
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Originally Posted by undecided View Post

Apologies if I misread your post - some (others) are chastising me for disrespect. None meant - just a lack of comprehension on my part

You may want to check Chad's review including his last updates

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post20446626

In the other place (we can't link to) he also says

----------------
Update 10-05-11

Attaching the CalMAN workflow I made especially for the VT30. It uses a combination of automatic and manual calibration, and gives the best performance I have yet gotten with the VT30's ISF modes. It is free for anyone to use.
-----------

It seems to me (undecided) paying a professional to do the calibration probably remains the best option.

Thanks for the link. FWIW, in the AVS link, the auto-cal program Chad used was the 2 point version, while the latest version has 10 pt functionality. Does the link from "the site that must not be named" have experiences detailed using the updated software?
post #5100 of 6373
Quote:
Originally Posted by undecided View Post

Apologies if I misread your post - some (others) are chastising me for disrespect. None meant - just a lack of comprehension on my part

You may want to check Chad's review including his last updates

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post20446626

In the other place (we can't link to) he also says

----------------
Update 10-05-11

Attaching the CalMAN workflow I made especially for the VT30. It uses a combination of automatic and manual calibration, and gives the best performance I have yet gotten with the VT30's ISF modes. It is free for anyone to use.
-----------

It seems to me (undecided) paying a professional to do the calibration probably remains the best option.

No problem. I really appreciate your comments and findings. Have a Great Day!
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