Official Panasonic 2011 TC-PxxVT30 Series Thread Discussion Thread [No Price Talk] - Page 194

I have not seen any 3D movies at Blockbuster/Netflix or Redbox.

Am I missing something?

Not having a swivel for my TCP55VT30 was a show stopper for my application as my seating is not centered in my family room. It is a must have. I actually resolved the swivel issue before I purchased my VT30. This is what I did and it works great. I purchased this Wood Technology SW27 TV turn table from Wayfair.com for $50.99 (http://www.wayfair.com/Wood-Technolo...007.html#specs). This turn table swivel comes with a 12 inch diameter bearing. I felt that the turntable needed more stability so I replaced the original bearing with one I found on-line at VXB bearings for $19.95. Here is the link: (http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/PROD/Kit11281) This bearing is very low profile and 392 mm diameter (15.5 inches). This VXB bearing added more stability and supports my VT30 very well. There is no lateral or side to side movement. It is as if this hybrid tv swivel was made for the 55VT30. The turntable, which is solid oak, painted black (matching the VT30) is rated to support 250lbs. So for a total investment of $70.94, I am able to use my VT30 on a swivel mount that is very stable and it looks like it is part of the VT30. Hope this helps.

I managed to get green lantern 3d from blockbuster.com, but couldn't find any others. I personally have not tried this site, www.3d-blurayrental.com, but I have read where others have had success.

Excellent. Thanks.

Quick update. Watched Star wars TPM and no IR afterwards. I really think I good a perfect tv. No issues at all. I frickin love it!

as in if you took apart the display, like to align the back panel or the front bezel?

is there a service manual for these TV's that someone can post, I am sure it will show that in there

Can anyone recommend a slim wall mount with and without tilt? Sorry if this was discussed before!

I apologize for mentioning Netflix. I was thinking about BRD, not 3d BRD. Brain fart on my end...

Just wondering why THX mode would be inferior? I have a 65VT30 that has been calibrated twice, and both times the calibrator told me how much better it would be to calibrate the THX mode instead of the ISF modes. So he did the Custom, and THX modes, and didn't even activate the ISF modes. The reason I ask is because I have had a problem with "flicker", or "pulsing" on the display, like it has too much contrast. I have always wondered if different calibration would tone it down?

Try changing to 60hz mode.

I should have indicated that the flicker is there on every source. It is especially bad on bright content, and I have read that it is just the nature of PDP displays. I'm new to the world of Plasma, so this is not something I'm used to. I'm just wondering if there are some kind of tweaks in the service menu, or ISF settings that tone it down a bit. A lot of people seem to think it has to do with the amount of power driving the display.

PDP's shouldnt flicker by nature but some can

I have noticed that while watching the Spears & Munsil opening it does seem to flicker a bit

I have a Pioneer Elite PRO-111FD and the same images dont flicker on those scenes even with the same PS3 as the bluray player set to 1080p 24

setting it to 48Hz makes it way worse and 60 Hz looks OK and 96Hz looks the same as 60Hz - but I am still waiting on this TV to run through its first 200 hours of use before I calibrate it, I will post back when I do that and give the actual numbers I get from my meters compared to my Elite - I just calibrated my Elite again about 2 weeks ago so I have the numbers from that and its the same as it was 2 years ago save a little red increase

I got my Elite as my first Plasma other then a really old one I paid $10,000 for when they first came out but that was only 480p so it doesent really count, also that stopped working 5 years after I got it having the screen gone so dim you couldnt see anything much - between that Plasma and my Elite I had a Sony Trinitron tube TV with DVI and it accepted 720p and 1080i, it still works great today but its only a 32" - then I started ISF calibration about 5 years ago and thats why I got the Elite after seeing how good it is in a few customers houses and other calibrators telling me it was better then some $25,000+ medical imaging displays they have seen and tested

after seeing it and calibrating it my self I have yet to see a display that even comes close including these VT30's - check reviews (and my old post from a few days ago with a link in it to a review), most all of them still use the Elite as the reference display and most all say its still the best there is - its just stupid IMO that nothing better has come alone in 2+ years! things like that are simply unheard of in the world of consumer electronics

Guess I'm in a different category about thoughts on the VT30. Not saying it is better than an Elite Kuro but I'm impressed with my 55" VT30 with about 500 hours on it. Not sure if I'm just luck like some others or what but I'm amazed and I'm coming from an Elite CRT PRTV which was no slouch, some including calibrators on the CRT RPTV thread think it is the best to date even with it only doing 1080i. In any event, I'm impressed with the PQ. It seems a lot more issue are posted on the 65". Maybe this is due to more sold but I'm thinking there is more to it than that, maybe more difficult with extra 10" to display a picture. I know the VT30 isn't perfect by any long shot and I can tell the display wants the very best signal. My Dish HD does a stellar job with the signal end along with blu-rays looking awesome. To tell you the truth even if Panasonic match or maybe even slightly beats the Kuro with the VT50, there will be plenty of negative posts just like there are even on the Kuro thread.

Just too bad some are having issues with banding, whites or other aspects to the PQ. For me, I still have the wow factor.

Good luck to those not happy. Maybe a projection system is really the way to go?



Zane

Now that I know what you're talking about, I see the same thing on my ST30. Calibrated, the effect is reduced significantly. The flicker reminds me of CRT computer monitor with the refresh rate set to low. It shows up primarily with lots of really bright content on the screen. I have yet to notice it with actual content, but the panel prep slides certainly show it.

To me it's like driving a new Ferrari with a big dent in the fender. Awesome in every way except one very distracting issue. I thought I would get used to it, but it's been almost a year now, and the flicker is most of what I focus on with this set. I'm looking forward to seeing the larger OLED sets in person and making a decision to possibly go that direction.

Like me, are you sensitive to CRT computer monitors that flicker? I know many people who don't seem to notice. It drives me crazy.

if anyone knows a place in Canada that seels a vt30 for a good deal PLEASE PM ME

Thanks

Yeah, but I have always found a setting that would lessen or even eliminate the effect. I have not found a way around this on the VT30. Cable, Blu-Ray, Xbox, PS3, HD, SD, it all has the flicker issue. At my local BB showroom they have it too, just not as noticeable in a bright room. The Samsung 8000 series does not seem to have it nearly as much, but I have had terrible quality issues with them before, and don't want to chance returning a set two or three times to get a good one. When the OLED sets come out, or a good full array LED under $4k surfaces, someone is probably going to get a great deal on my VT30. That is, unless I can figure out a way to minimize the flicker...

I don't notice any flicker during regular content. Perhaps if you're looking at test slides of bright colors, you can see some. I can't think of one objectionable instance of flicker. If it's present, you really have to look for it...I'm usually good at noticing such things.

I imagine it's possible what you're describing varies from set to set or maybe there are settings you're using that exaggerate the flicker. What pic mode are you using, contrast, etc? Obviously there's no perfect TV, but I'd say the overall PQ of the VT30 is close to perfect.

I briefly had the Samsung plasma, and the PQ of the VT30 is superior in terms of black level and shadow detail and video processing.

I have a Panasonic 65VT30 and Sony 52" LCD set on Full Pixel (no overscan). On both TVs, several channels on Directv such as TBS, TNT, WGN, AMC have 1 white pixel visible in the lower right hand corner. When I change to a slight overscan mode, of course the pixel is gone. Does everyone else see this who's using a no overscan setting? Is there any way to remove the pixel without using overscan? I like to see the whole pic with maximum resolution? Since it only effects 1 pixel on a few channels, I guess it's livable.

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It is mostly on bright content. If the screen has a bright scene it flickers like a movie projector in high school science class... I'm exaggerating of course, but you get the idea. The best example I can give to create the effect is if you watch some 24p content on 48hz. It is the same look, only not as bad. The set is ISF calibrated in THX, and Custom modes. I use the calibrated settings because they are the best so far. It has been calibrated twice. Once before, and once after the A-board replacement. On paper it calibrated out almost perfectly. I have been told that I have "fast eyeballs". Apparently some people can see it more than others.

Got my P65VT30 last Tuesday from Amazon. Its an August 2011 build, MJ1213. No physical damage or dead pixels. Delivered by Home Direct/Belkin (or Beskin, can't remember exactly). Got worried after reading a lot of bad stuff on the net but delivery went fine for me. More details here if anyone is interested (click me). Didn't check the EEPROM version but I haven't seen any FBr on it so far. Just going to run it on HD movie channels with no logos with zoomed in format for 100 hours to break it in. I have about 40 hours on it so far. Its in THX mode with brightness/contrast/etc turned down to 40 or 45.

I checked other modes and 3D/bluray briefly and everything looks great. The only bad things I've noticed so far is that my cheap free HDMI cables I got from my cable company do not work with this TV (got some Mediabridge cables from Amazon that work great so far) and there's a faint humming noise when the pic is mostly dark that some people here have mentioned. The humming noise doesn't really bother me though, wouldn't even notice it was an issue if I didn't know to look out for it. Overall I'm very, very happy with this TV. I probably won't bother with slides or calibration since I'm already happy with the pic and I really just want to get the 100-hour break-in period over with as fast as possible and start normal viewing/gaming/3D.

Thank you to htwaits, EmilG, and nevea2be for answering my questions a few pages back. And many thanks to everyone else here who is constantly posting helpful info.


Have you tried using different output resolutions? There's a weird issue I've noticed on some channels (nothing to do with the TV) where you see white dots or lines on the very top of the pic. Changing between 720p and 1080i fixes that, maybe it'll hide that one problem pixel?

I have the exact issue. I also see it on NBC. The issue does not appear on any other set. I have not found a way to eliminate it besides overscan. The pixel orbiter eliminates it sometimes as it orbits.

If you wish to eliminate this, you can change the "Size" setting on the display.

If you change the size setting to 2, then you introduce some overscan. It seems that any tv with 0 overscan would show this 1 pixel in the lower right corner on the directv channels i noted, my 52" sony does the same thing. I guess you cant change the image size 1 pixel line at a time? You'd need a standalone scaler i presume? This must come from the channel itself since ive seen it on multiple tvs with 0 overscan

When initially setting up my vt30, I quickly observed flicker using 48hz, thus I never use it. For comparison sake, I've gone back and forth between 48hz and 60hz when watching blu ray or Directv PPV at 24p, and 60hz always displays a better, flicker free picture. I can understand why you're bothered by flicker watching at 48hz. I would just always use 60hz...no issues for me using 60hz. In fact, I prefer 60hz over 96hz, there's less artifacts during fast motion using 60hz IMO.

Just to throw this in there, I have this on my VT25 as well. I just assumed it was a channel-specific thing.

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I don't get the whole flicker thing. I don't see anything like this and I'm extremely picky. I've been also using 60 Hz like you.

It is funny how this thread goes in various directions regarding issues. Months ago it was countless posts on the fluctuating brightness and green blobs and now flicker. I guess I got one of few VT30 that don't have problems.

Just to be clear, I see flicker, but so far it's only been on things like menue screens where there's a large bright background. I have yet to experience it while watching content. That said, I know exactly what he's talking about. During the panel prep I was almost convinced that I had a defective unit because it was so prevalent.

I also notice the flicker during the burn-in slides, but none with regular content.