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post #6121 of 6435
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Originally Posted by petetherock View Post

Hi friends
I am looking at a display set which has been out for a month... it will be close to $700 cheaper than new.
Anything I should look out for, and is that a good deal?

I am looking over my shoulder as I ponder, given that the VT50 will be released where I live in less than 1-2 months...
Plus the availability of the Samsung E8000 too.
Will the VT 30 be a better bet than a new E8000 (which should cost about USD 700 more than the display).

Thanks

I would never buy a Plasma display/floor model. LCD no problem, plasma I wouldn't touch.
post #6122 of 6435
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Originally Posted by WiFi-Spy View Post

I would never buy a Plasma display/floor model. LCD no problem, plasma I wouldn't touch.

Thanks for the heads up... Managed to squeeze it to - 1200 off the retail! Plus all warranty and free mounting, stands, the works... Am I crazy?

Will I still be able to use DNice settings?
post #6123 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Dominus View Post

Ouch! D-nice spent 5 hours (long time) calibrating my TV. I have no clue how to re-enter that information. I will have to cancel my appt if that is true.

Thanks for the info re: Costco though I will also need to join. Panny wants 219 bones for one year.

I thought you had entered D-Nice's settings from this thread on your own, and didn't realize that he actually did the calibration on your set. Don't touch it!! I was thinking you could just re-enter the settings, but if he personally did the calibration the whole thing will be wasted. I had to have mine calibrated twice because of the A-board swap. Unless you know for sure (and you would) that you have the FBR issue, I would not have any work done to the set. It will definitely blow out your settings, no question.
post #6124 of 6435
Am sure someone posted this, but how do I check the hours?
Thanks
post #6125 of 6435
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Originally Posted by petetherock View Post

Am sure someone posted this, but how do I check the hours?
Thanks

Please see the mini FAQ in my signature line.
post #6126 of 6435
Thanks mate, I will see if the codes apply to our side of the pond too...
BTW, I have a rather large head... yes laugh... but are there alternatives to the Panasonic glasses which fit someone like me?
post #6127 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Jigsore View Post

I thought you had entered D-Nice's settings from this thread on your own, and didn't realize that he actually did the calibration on your set. Don't touch it!! I was thinking you could just re-enter the settings, but if he personally did the calibration the whole thing will be wasted. I had to have mine calibrated twice because of the A-board swap. Unless you know for sure (and you would) that you have the FBR issue, I would not have any work done to the set. It will definitely blow out your settings, no question.

Thanks for the info. I'm calling now to cancel. I haven't seen the FBr issue though I'm sure it is there but I love my D-Nice picture so I will live happily with what I have.

Thanks everyone
post #6128 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Dominus View Post

Thanks for the info. I'm calling now to cancel. I haven't seen the FBr issue though I'm sure it is there but I love my D-Nice picture so I will live happily with what I have.

Thanks everyone

According to D-Nice, all the VT30s will have the FBr issue, but it is more noticeable on some VT30s than others. It doesn't bother me (I haven't noticed it), so I left well enough alone. Unless you want to have D-Nice redo your calibration, you should do the same and leave it well enough alone since it doesn't bother you either.
post #6129 of 6435
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post


According to D-Nice, all the VT30s will have the FBr issue, but it is more noticeable on some VT30s than others. It doesn't bother me (I haven't noticed it), so I left well enough alone. Unless you want to have D-Nice redo your calibration, you should do the same and leave it well enough alone since it doesn't bother you either.

Just to add to this, pro calibrations help "mask" the FBr issue. That's probably why its not being noticed. As mentioned, all VT sets in 2011 had the issue.
post #6130 of 6435
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Originally Posted by petetherock View Post

Will I still be able to use DNice settings?

You can use D-Nice's settings, but you can't expect to get as close to his results as you would have with a new display after following his instructions. In your case there would be no reason to follow D-Nice's instructions. They are for out of the box displays.

I would get the slides that people use as part of D-Nice's procedure and check the display you're thinking of buying for burn-in and dead pixels. Most demo displays have had many hours of high contrast extremely bright run time with a lot of repetitive fixed images.

If the display you're looking at has a clean image, I wouldn't worry about the number of hours on it if the price is right.
post #6131 of 6435
does anyone have a brightness change or any kind of wierd signal on direct tv with NBAHD ?

it was acting really odd and then i switched it to ESPN masters coverage and was looking good.....
post #6132 of 6435
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Originally Posted by mvp2005fan View Post

Please see the mini FAQ in my signature line.

agreed... bookmark it while you are at it... .give some kudos to MVP
post #6133 of 6435
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Originally Posted by petetherock View Post

Thanks mate, I will see if the codes apply to our side of the pond too...
BTW, I have a rather large head... yes laugh... but are there alternatives to the Panasonic glasses which fit someone like me?

Try the 3rd generation glasses if you can find them. (I'll bet the large ones are easier to get than the medium.)

I was watching today and I can tell you that the 3G are not only much lighter than the ones that came with the set, they also fit around my head much better.
post #6134 of 6435
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Originally Posted by chess View Post

agreed... bookmark it while you are at it... .give some kudos to MVP

Actually, the kudos should go to all of you who provided the information--I just put together a kind of table of contents of sorts.

I do appreciate the kind words, though--so thanks!
post #6135 of 6435
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Originally Posted by mvp2005fan View Post

Try the 3rd generation glasses if you can find them. (I'll bet the large ones are easier to get than the medium.)

I was watching today and I can tell you that the 3G are not only much lighter than the ones that came with the set, they also fit around my head much better.

I found them for like 60 bucks the large, but its like 1-2 week back order boooooo
post #6136 of 6435
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Originally Posted by chess View Post

I found them for like 60 bucks the large, but its like 1-2 week back order boooooo

You mean the original ones? Amazon sells them for 119

Btw the panel looked pretty clean and one advantage was that after one month, it would either be ok or any isssues would have surfaced right? Anyway I will hunt down Dnice's slides, mvp's faqs are fab!

On a separate note, how much worse are the vt30 compared to the new vt50?
Anyone knows or has a link? We are likely to only see them in a couple of months down here..
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I will be mounting the VT30 65", and the TV is likely to be sited 900mm (about 3 feet) off the floor. Given that I will be seated about 10 feet away, and I will seated on an Eames chair with my ear level about 1000mm (3.3ft) off the floor, will this be too awkward?

Am I craning my neck upwards too much?
post #6138 of 6435
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Originally Posted by petetherock View Post

You mean the original ones? Amazon sells them for 119

Btw the panel looked pretty clean and one advantage was that after one month, it would either be ok or any isssues would have surfaced right? Anyway I will hunt down Dnice's slides, mvp's faqs are fab!

On a separate note, how much worse are the vt30 compared to the new vt50?
Anyone knows or has a link? We are likely to only see them in a couple of months down here..

Yup but if you goto google.com and put in the part # and then hit search and hit shopping on the left places have them for 63 bucks....

are they original ones I dont know and dont care its whats on panasonics page... also its what some folks have given up here

Good luck to you
post #6139 of 6435
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Originally Posted by petetherock View Post

I will be mounting the VT30 65", and the TV is likely to be sited 900mm (about 3 feet) off the floor. Given that I will be seated about 10 feet away, and I will seated on an Eames chair with my ear level about 1000mm (3.3ft) off the floor, will this be too awkward?

Am I craning my neck upwards too much?

you'll be fine. The highest I would want to put my tv is with my eyes at the bottom of the screen.

My tv is situated such that my eye height is at the
Bottom 3rd or so of the screen, maybe slightly higher. I could easily raise it higher.
post #6140 of 6435
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Originally Posted by petetherock View Post

I will be mounting the VT30 65", and the TV is likely to be sited 900mm (about 3 feet) off the floor. Given that I will be seated about 10 feet away, and I will seated on an Eames chair with my ear level about 1000mm (3.3ft) off the floor, will this be too awkward?

Am I craning my neck upwards too much?

I had a professional installer mount my TV, and run the wiring, etc. He said that the industry standard is for the center of the set to be five feet from the floor. That is what we did, and it is great.
post #6141 of 6435
I was reading cnet review and saw the following --

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The VT30 is very expensive, and last year's Panasonic plasmas lost black-level performance over relatively short periods of time.

Do you guys notice any drop in black level performance with VT30?
post #6142 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Jigsore View Post

I had a professional installer mount my TV, and run the wiring, etc. He said that the industry standard is for the center of the set to be five feet from the floor. That is what we did, and it is great.

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Originally Posted by terzaghi View Post

you'll be fine. The highest I would want to put my tv is with my eyes at the bottom of the screen.

My tv is situated such that my eye height is at the
Bottom 3rd or so of the screen, maybe slightly higher. I could easily raise it higher.

Thanks guys...
Tomorrow is the day... Will post pics soon.. I think I can settle for 850mm off the floor, which makes the center about 1350mm off the floor.

The trouble is that my B&W HTM4s has a tweeter cone which sticks out and I am planning to try a B&W based front three in place of my usual Monitor Audios...

And the IR 3D transmitter is right smack in the center
post #6143 of 6435
So who's planning to upgrade to a VT50 this year and what's your strategy?

Meaning at what point of the year are you planning to take the plunge based on your experience buying the VT30?
post #6144 of 6435
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Originally Posted by Jigsore View Post

I had a professional installer mount my TV, and run the wiring, etc. He said that the industry standard is for the center of the set to be five feet from the floor. That is what we did, and it is great.

mine is probably about 4 ft from the floor which mine isnt mounted so yeah... but I think its at perfect height
post #6145 of 6435
Eagerly waiting for Monday when the installer comes to fix up my 65VT30...
My renovations allowed me to spec my feature wall to take a 100 kg TV, but this baby is really heavy... so I hope my wall can take the baby... 4 screws to support 56 kg?

Still keeping my fingers crossed that my decision to opt for a floor model is a good move...

I have been reading the manuals but I must have missed out on some points:

My main viewing diet is 90% BR discs and the odd DVD, 10% free to air TV
- is there an aspect choice which allows me to see exactly what the source was, without any upscaling? I.E. if it was a letterbox movie, I can keep it that way without any stretching?

- will I be able to bypass the video processing in the TV and either rely on my Oppo 95 or Denon AVR 4311 to do the job? I don't really want all three video chips adding their own effects

- since it is a floor model, I guess I missed the boat on run-in, so can someone also point me to some basic settings I can start off with, before I get my hands on a DVE or Spears and Mun BR discs (I might opt for the Disney Wow disc - looks cute).

Thanks again for helping out!
post #6146 of 6435
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Originally Posted by MrJai View Post

So who's planning to upgrade to a VT50 this year and what's your strategy?

Meaning at what point of the year are you planning to take the plunge based on your experience buying the VT30?

If I even mentioned that.My wife would change me from a Bass to a Soprano in one,quick,extremely fast stroke!
post #6147 of 6435
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Originally Posted by hodges69 View Post


If I even mentioned that.My wife would change me from a Bass to a Soprano in one,quick,extremely fast stroke!

Good luck selling the vt30 for a reasonable
Price I was offered only 900.00 for my 55 with a warranty until 2016. Luckily
I didn't do it and am happy
With it now. You won't get that much for the vt30
post #6148 of 6435
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Originally Posted by hodges69 View Post


If I even mentioned that.My wife would change me from a Bass to a Soprano in one,quick,extremely fast stroke!

That's why the TV is being replaced under warranty if you know what I mean. I have a 65 and I already have an offer for 1500. As long as I can get 1700 for it then I should be okay.
post #6149 of 6435
Just purchased the 65VT30. June 2011 build with the brightness fluctuation problem evident. Just called Panasonic and they are refusing to replace stating it is part of the energy saving. I know this is bogus. Am I missing something, sounds like some of you all had no problem at all?
post #6150 of 6435
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Originally Posted by petetherock;21882109My main viewing diet is 90% BR discs and the odd DVD, 10% free to air TV
- is there an [B
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aspect choice[/b] which allows me to see exactly what the source was, without any upscaling? I.E. if it was a letterbox movie, I can keep it that way without any stretching?

You seem to me to be mixing terms. You can set your display so that SD (4x3 or 1.33:1) aspect ratios will be shown with black bars on each side. Source material that is 16x9 or 1.78:1 will fill your screen, and any larger aspect ratios like 2.35:1 will have black bars top and bottom. I don't own a Panasonic, but you should be able to get the correct setting from your manual or here in this thread.

Upscaling is something else. Your display is 1080P so any source material must be upscaled and/or de-interlaced before it can be displayed. The TV can do that, but if you have an OPPO, I would set it to output 1080P. Check either the OPPO 93 or 95 threads for assistance. The 93 & 95 are identical as far as video is concerned.

Wikipedia is a great source for background information.

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- will I be able to bypass the video processing in the TV and either rely on my Oppo 95 or Denon AVR 4311 to do the job? I don't really want all three video chips adding their own effects

Any calibration that you do is best done in the display. The OPPO should be left at it's default values. The OPPO will handle video processing via HDMI #1 for SD material. BR material will not be processed, but 1080i will be de-interlaced to 1080P. Check the owner's threads for the your AVR and the OPPO to see if there is any difference between the two devices.

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- since it is a floor model, I guess I missed the boat on run-in, so can someone also point me to some basic settings I can start off with, before I get my hands on a DVE or Spears and Mun BR discs (I might opt for the Disney Wow disc - looks cute).

I would use D-Nice's settings as a starting point even though your display will produce something different than if you had done his full procedure.

Enjoy.
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