Originally Posted by Citivas
These are very different options so it really depends on your priorities. If you want the best, wait for the VT50. If you want a close-out deal, patiently wait to see if there is another round of VT30 deals at $2,500 or below and if not then be satisfied with one of your other choices when the VT30's sell out. If you were willing to settle for a VT30 on PQ and features and don't need the best, get the ST50 which is at least as good at the VT30 and will cost less than the VT50. Samsung is just apples-to-oranges. It will also have a great PQ (probably will end up on par with this year's ST50 but we'll see) and tends to lead of the non-core "features" like in this case the voice control, gesture control, built-on camera for Skype or facial recognition (to log you automatically into social media apps, etc).
Originally Posted by Jigsore
Personally I would go with the Samsung. Last May I got the VT30, and had it calibrated twice. Twice because it was supposed to be the best out there, and was never happy with it. The black level was not that great compared to what I had read, the motion resolution was terrible, and the GD flicker issues! Most of my time was spent in the menu's trying to find a way to improve the picture. So I sold the VT, and got a great price on a D8000. Had it installed, set up a couple of menu's and have never looked back. The picture on this one is so good that I'm not even sure if I'll have it calibrated. Oh yeah, if you are into the 3D side of things, the Samsung kills the Panasonic for glasses comfort, and image crosstalk. I still thought the Panasonic was great, but the Samsung didn't have any of the issues that I was having with my VT30. One thing is for sure. I will not be trusting any reviews from here on out, and completely trust my own eyes.
Here we won't be seeing either the ST or VT 50 series for a while...
My installer friend knows they are in the warehouses, but the tactic is to hoard them until the 30 series sells out..
So he figures that the best way forward is to haggle for a new VT30. Since the mount is already on my wall, and there is a lot of paperwork involved in a refund, they are more inclined to get me a new VT 30, especially if I top up with some cash.
As for the E8000 (no more D8000 anywhere), he was installing some of them and he did mention that he has a lot of issues with noise on the screens that he can't resolve right now. So unless I want to be an early adopter, I should get the VT30 with the extra warranty, and pocket the difference. He hinted that our VT50s will cost more than $2000 more than the runout prices of the VT30 when they become available as Panasonic seeks to recoup their losses.
So fingers crossed as I go to the store today and get a solution.
On a separate note, 850mm off the floor is still a tad high. Ideally 700mm will bring it below my eye level. But the mount (Sanus) has a tilt function, so that helps.
It seems the mount has a little wiggle room, so I might be able to lower the screen by an inch or so.
My long struggle continues...
But it does look nice on my newly renovated place in the feature I designed myself
PS: some little annoying things:
3D was pretty so so... good thing I was not buying this set for this...
The captive power cord was not good. I had a new PS Audio PC all ready...
I haven't had a chance to access all the modes yet, but I know I want pro calibration... it doesn't have a big wow factor right now, not sure why... then again the Kuros I have (2 Pioneers) simply grew on me and it was only when I compared them, that I found that their colors and blacks were so much better. Right now, standing alone in my home, it's just ok - heh
I am tilting the screen slightly downwards - kinda like someone sitting in the forward one thirds in a cinema... the width is good, I am so glad I didn't buy anything smaller ...
PPS: The velodyne is a spare... and they were shifting things when I shot this...