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post #481 of 606
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Originally Posted by mikooknum View Post

I returned 40d630 with version SN02 due to bad vewing angles and got 46d630 with version SQ01 built date APRIL 2012.
PQ is just fantasic!
I'm very happy now even i spend $200 more..

how much better are the viewing angles on the SQ01 (S-PVA made by Samsung) vs. the SN02 (S-MVA made by CMO)? does the SQ01 have any flashlighting, clouding, bright spots, or banding?
post #482 of 606
Just got my LN46D630 last week and it is amazing. Panel SN02 and I see no flaws whatsoever.
I used the cnet settings and everything so far has exceeded my expectations- did I say it has amazing picture quality?
Can't really speak to viewing angles as I set up my room to ensure the television was facing the correct way tongue.gif
If I walk way to the side the picture quality suffers some but I don't know why anyone would want to view from that angle to begin with- clearly I am missing something.
This is my third Sammy LCD and they are all doing just great.

I am very happy!
post #483 of 606
I am a new owner of a Samsung LN40D630 (SN02, 09/11 Manufacture Date) and a Sony BDP S790, previous TV was a 27" Sony Trinitron (KV-27FV42).

Out of the box I have not had any flashlight and/or light leaking from any of the corners. I used the setting suggestions found on c|net and have been amazed with the picture quality.

I did have one question regarding the available settings under Color Tone. c|net suggests a setting of Warm 2, while I have seen others on this forum suggest that Normal and/or Warm 1 be used and never Warm 2. Ive switched between the 3 options and do not notice a huge difference, certainly there is a noticeable difference between the Warm(s) and the Normal, but I didnt notice a whole lot between the two Warm settings.

I would appreciate any clarification. Thanks.
post #484 of 606
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Originally Posted by retihsuhnt View Post

I am a new owner of a Samsung LN40D630 (SN02, 09/11 Manufacture Date) and a Sony BDP S790, previous TV was a 27" Sony Trinitron (KV-27FV42).
Out of the box I have not had any flashlight and/or light leaking from any of the corners. I used the setting suggestions found on c|net and have been amazed with the picture quality.
I did have one question regarding the available settings under Color Tone. c|net suggests a setting of Warm 2, while I have seen others on this forum suggest that Normal and/or Warm 1 be used and never Warm 2. Ive switched between the 3 options and do not notice a huge difference, certainly there is a noticeable difference between the Warm(s) and the Normal, but I didnt notice a whole lot between the two Warm settings.
I would appreciate any clarification. Thanks.

how are the viewing angles?
post #485 of 606
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Originally Posted by retihsuhnt View Post

I am a new owner of a Samsung LN40D630 (SN02, 09/11 Manufacture Date) and a Sony BDP S790, previous TV was a 27" Sony Trinitron (KV-27FV42).
Out of the box I have not had any flashlight and/or light leaking from any of the corners. I used the setting suggestions found on c|net and have been amazed with the picture quality.
I did have one question regarding the available settings under Color Tone. c|net suggests a setting of Warm 2, while I have seen others on this forum suggest that Normal and/or Warm 1 be used and never Warm 2. Ive switched between the 3 options and do not notice a huge difference, certainly there is a noticeable difference between the Warm(s) and the Normal, but I didnt notice a whole lot between the two Warm settings.
I would appreciate any clarification. Thanks.

It may be easier to see a difference in the color temperature settings while viewing a gray scale test pattern, or an old black&white TV show or movie.
You may see more of a greenish tint on the black&white video with Warm 2, less so with Warm1.
I also notice that the green of grass say on live HD golf coverage looks more realistic in Warm1 or Warm2 vs Normal or Cool.
So I use Warm1.
post #486 of 606
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

how are the viewing angles?

I was impressed. I have mine set up for direct viewing from the couch on a TV stand, but while in the kitchen and probably at a 30/35 degree angle I could still see everything on the screen.
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Originally Posted by BriscoCountyJr View Post

It may be easier to see a difference in the color temperature settings while viewing a gray scale test pattern, or an old black&white TV show or movie.
You may see more of a greenish tint on the black&white video with Warm 2, less so with Warm1.
I also notice that the green of grass say on live HD golf coverage looks more realistic in Warm1 or Warm2 vs Normal or Cool.
So I use Warm1.

Thank you for the clarification. I will take a look at the settings while on a B&W TV show (only getting OTA channels now, so that should not be a problem).
post #487 of 606
Does anyone know how much longer this model is going to be available? I ask since it was released 3/2011 and it's already 8/2012. How long were the C models available last year?
post #488 of 606
Way late to the Party.

I picked up the 46D630 today as a trade-in for the" dearly departed" LN46A850.

So far this is a great set..only negative is a slightly lesser viewing angle.

I like the matte screen, black levels, color, contrast, menu functions and design.

Game Mode is excellent and the 24fps Blu-ray input is outstanding.
post #489 of 606
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Way late to the Party.
I picked up the 46D630 today as a trade-in for the" dearly departed" LN46A850.
So far this is a great set..only negative is a slightly lesser viewing angle.
I like the matte screen, black levels, color, contrast, menu functions and design.
Game Mode is excellent and the 24fps Blu-ray input is outstanding.

is this the SN02 panel verison? it should be on the box and the side of the TV under "version"
post #490 of 606
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

is this the SN02 panel verison? it should be on the box and the side of the TV under "version"

Yes and its very uniform..no clouds..no flashlighting.

SN02 from June 2012
post #491 of 606
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Yes and its very uniform..no clouds..no flashlighting.
SN02 from June 2012

yeah that all sounds very typical for the SN02 panel version, which is S-MVA LCD panel tech (made by CMI)
post #492 of 606
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

yeah that all sounds very typical for the SN02 panel version, which is S-MVA LCD panel tech (made by CMI)

Late to the party...left the party. smile.gif

The poor motion resolution and artifacts killed it for me.

I traded in the LN46D630 for a UN46D6900.
post #493 of 606
I just picked up the D630 on Friday (9/21/12) and love it. Best PQ I've seen in a long time. My only complaints are Flashlighting in bottom corners, seems to judder some on certain programming, two stuck pixels, and one dead pixel. I have panel version SQ01. Should I take it back and request the SN02 panel? I don't like Flashlighting and I can probably live with bad viewing angles. What is the difference between the SN01 and SN02 panels?
post #494 of 606
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

I just picked up the D630 on Friday (9/21/12) and love it. Best PQ I've seen in a long time. My only complaints are Flashlighting in bottom corners, seems to judder some on certain programming, two stuck pixels, and one dead pixel. I have panel version SQ01. Should I take it back and request the SN02 panel? I don't like Flashlighting and I can probably live with bad viewing angles. What is the difference between the SN01 and SN02 panels?

Its a crap shoot.....you could get better or worse.

I also have dead/stuck pixel problems.

The best bet is to set up a Samsung Tech service call...infact I'm waiting on one for Friday.
post #495 of 606
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Its a crap shoot.....you could get better or worse.
I also have dead/stuck pixel problems.
The best bet is to set up a Samsung Tech service call...infact I'm waiting on one for Friday.

Having a Samsung Tech look at it is also a crap shoot. From my understanding a few stuck pixels are normal for any TV (LCD/LED) and they won't do anything about it unless there are 5-8 in a localized area of the screen (about a square inch). Good luck with that.
From what I read on here the SN01 and 02 panels are better for screen-uniformity but bad on viewing angles.? I'm not worried about stuck pixels for I will never be able to discern that they are there unless i'm 5" away from the tv. For those with the SN01 and SN02 panels on the D630 is there any flashlighting and how bad is the viewing angle? Does anyone know if there are major color/black-level/juddering differences between the two panels (SQ01 and SN02)?
Edited by Justin Sullins - 9/25/12 at 4:51pm
post #496 of 606
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

Having a Samsung Tech look at it is also a crap shoot. From my understanding a few stuck pixels are normal for any TV (LCD/LED) and they won't do anything about it unless there are 5-8 in a localized area of the screen (about a square inch). Good luck with that.
From what I read on here the SN01 and 02 panels are better for screen-uniformity but bad on viewing angles.? I'm not worried about stuck pixels for I will never be able to discern that they are there unless i'm 5" away from the tv. For those with the SN01 and SN02 panels on the D630 is there any flashlighting and how bad is the viewing angle? Does anyone know if there are major color/black-level/juddering differences between the two panels (SQ01 and SN02)?

Both have advantages...and disadvantages.

SQ01- better off-angle viewing and more "pop(color/contrast)".

SN02- better central view and less "clouding/flashlights"

Samsung does replace panels for a few dead pixels (I do have the 5-8 lined up) .

The D630 is exceptional except for the poor motion resolution- I doesn't get sharp except for static images.
post #497 of 606
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Both have advantages...and disadvantages.
SQ01- better off-angle viewing and more "pop(color/contrast)".
SN02- better central view and less "clouding/flashlights"
Samsung does replace panels for a few dead pixels (I do have the 5-8 lined up) .
The D630 is exceptional except for the poor motion resolution- I doesn't get sharp except for static images.

I might just keep my SQ01 Panel. It's not like I paid that much for it so the flaws aren't bad in that respect. The motion resolution is pretty bad compared to other tvs in the $700-$1000 range but I think I might've resolved my issue by using custom with judder and blur both at 10. I don't mind the S.O.E. and seems to be working alot better on film-based material. I'm currently using standard picture but having issues deciding if I should turn the extras off (Noise reduction, fim mode, etc...) I have them on auto and auto 1. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
post #498 of 606
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Both have advantages...and disadvantages.
SQ01- better off-angle viewing and more "pop(color/contrast)".
SN02- better central view and less "clouding/flashlights"
Samsung does replace panels for a few dead pixels (I do have the 5-8 lined up) .
The D630 is exceptional except for the poor motion resolution- I doesn't get sharp except for static images.

did you try both panels and what do you mean by better central view?
post #499 of 606
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

I think I might've resolved my issue by using custom with judder and blur both at 10. I don't mind the S.O.E. and seems to be working alot better on film-based material. I'm currently using standard picture but having issues deciding if I should turn the extras off (Noise reduction, fim mode, etc...) I have them on auto and auto 1.

I was just watching Boardwalk Empire on HBO HD and I noticed some more juddering. I've tried every different combination I can think of. I even see some juddering when everything is off (AMP). Has anyone figured out the best setting with no juddering accross all programming (Film and TV based)?

Also, after watching the Walking Dead on Netflix (Streaming) last night I noticed the picture and the dialog were not synced very well. Have not noticed it on regular tv but was very annoying. After getting frustrated I put my Samsung Soundbar on, which I have already properly synced for all programming (Blu-Ray/TV) and have never had syncing problems, still had the issue. Could it be the TV or just that particular show on Netflix?
Edited by Justin Sullins - 9/26/12 at 9:37pm
post #500 of 606
^^
There are some Netflix streaming shows that have unsynchronized audio, and you can report that problem on their website. One that was unwatchable, even with altering the audio delay via my AVR, was the movie of The Pajama Game.
post #501 of 606
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

I might just keep my SQ01 Panel. It's not like I paid that much for it so the flaws aren't bad in that respect. The motion resolution is pretty bad compared to other tvs in the $700-$1000 range but I think I might've resolved my issue by using custom with judder and blur both at 10. I don't mind the S.O.E. and seems to be working alot better on film-based material. I'm currently using standard picture but having issues deciding if I should turn the extras off (Noise reduction, fim mode, etc...) I have them on auto and auto 1. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I tried everything also; Auto Motion Plus set to Clear is Okay. Custom with Blur-10 and Judder -0 is slightly better.
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

did you try both panels and what do you mean by better central view?

Better Picture Quality from dead-center; more uniformity.

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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

I was just watching Boardwalk Empire on HBO HD and I noticed some more juddering. I've tried every different combination I can think of. I even see some juddering when everything is off (AMP). Has anyone figured out the best setting with no juddering accross all programming (Film and TV based)?
Also, after watching the Walking Dead on Netflix (Streaming) last night I noticed the picture and the dialog were not synced very well. Have not noticed it on regular tv but was very annoying. After getting frustrated I put my Samsung Soundbar on, which I have already properly synced for all programming (Blu-Ray/TV) and have never had syncing problems, still had the issue. Could it be the TV or just that particular show on Netflix?

The motion processing on this HDTV is slow/off its the #1 reason I returned it.
post #502 of 606
Anyone know if the LN46E550 is any better in terms of motion resolution? Can't find any info on this set. Might be a good buy if it has same PQ as the D630.
Edited by Justin Sullins - 9/27/12 at 10:00am
post #503 of 606
Would a firmware update fix this juddering issue?
post #504 of 606
I have the latest firmware and I will still notice juddering on certain source material at 24 fps playback. I get the best results with AutoMotion set to Clear.
post #505 of 606
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Originally Posted by pbarach View Post

I have the latest firmware and I will still notice juddering on certain source material at 24 fps playback. I get the best results with AutoMotion set to Clear.

What is the latest firmware? I checked the Samsung Site and it says there has never been any firmware updates to this set other than updated user manuals. I have 1004.0.
post #506 of 606
I contacted Samsung yesterday and asked them if they would release a firmware update to fix the juddering issues. I just got a response via email...

Dear Justin Sullins,

We appreciate you contacting Samsung Electronics and being a valued customer. We understand that when you turn off or on the Auto Motion Plus, the TV has judder effect. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Do you have the same issue when you connect any other input sources like DVD player, VCR, Satellite, Cable box, Xbox, PS3, etc to your TV?

If yes, please reset the TV and check if the issue persists.

Initially unplug and re-plug the power cable. Then perform the following to perform a reset :

1. Turn the TV on and hold down the EXIT button on the remote control for 10 seconds.
2. After performing the above steps, the TV turns off. Turn it on manually.
3. Once the reset is complete you need to run Auto program to get all the channels.

We do understand your concern but as of now we will put forward your request to our software department on high priority basis so that it will be released as soon as possible.


That's great if Samsung actually follows through with creating an update to fix it. My question is, would doing a reset have any chance in resolving the juddering?
post #507 of 606
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

My question is, would doing a reset have any chance in resolving the juddering?

I seriously doubt it, but it doesn't hurt to try. I think they are just following general troubleshooting procedure.
post #508 of 606
There was indeed a firmware update last spring. I have no idea what it was supposed to fix.

You can try the "reset the TV" option if you like, but this sounds to me like the advice you get from a Dell tech support person who doesn't know much and will tell you after trying one or two obvious things, "You'll need to reinstall Windows."
post #509 of 606
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Originally Posted by pbarach View Post

There was indeed a firmware update last spring. I have no idea what it was supposed to fix.
You can try the "reset the TV" option if you like, but this sounds to me like the advice you get from a Dell tech support person who doesn't know much and will tell you after trying one or two obvious things, "You'll need to reinstall Windows."

I'm not that naive to think my "lone" email got Samsung to scurry around trying create a firmware update to fix a $700 television but atleast they acknowledged the fact that there is an issue.
I'll probably try doing their reset procedure this wknd and see if it helps. I doubt it does.
post #510 of 606
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

I'm not that naive to think my "lone" email got Samsung to scurry around trying create a firmware update to fix a $700 television but atleast they acknowledged the fact that there is an issue.
I'll probably try doing their reset procedure this wknd and see if it helps. I doubt it does.
Thank you for trying! The judder is the single thing I dislike about this tv.
I know I could turn off the Auto Motion Plus but I really like it, and would rather put up with the occasional judder than do without.
My gut feeling though is that the processor isn't powerful enough to "keep up" or else it would already have been fixed. If Samsung actually fixed this, however, they will have earned my loyalty.
I've tried to lower the AMP setting, but all that does is lessen the benefits of the interpolation while the judder never completely disappears.
-J

By the way, can someone tell me what the deal with the previously released updated firmware is?? Why wouldn't Samsung keep it on their site?
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