Sony 3D Bloggie just arrived - Page 4

That's what I expected.
I would like to see if it works on a LG passive.

"While in this mode I'm not getting any ghosting. I do find that putting on the"3D glasses I have here in the edit room (Real 3D) it takes a few seconds for the 3D to lock in. Then the Z axis and convergence pops. I'll try the glasses that comes with Vizio, still packed in the carton later. If I nod my head up and down a couple times I can speed up the process where the 3D locks in. I hadn't noticed this with other 3D demos of this polar technology before so I wonder if it has something to do with this monitor or Vegas in SBS mode? Let me know your experience with this."

Don, I also experience a delay before the 3D locks in. Seems to happen every time, and the shift time seems to have nothing to do with my head nodding or turning, putting glasses on or whether the glasses are from a movie house (Real3D) or supplied with the TV.

Don,

Coincidentally, we purchased a new passive 23" 3D monitor from LG (my family will not let me monopolize the 32" Vizio, they like it so much for 3D). It came with one regular pair of passive glasses and one clip-on! The clip-on is great. The passive LG monitor exhibits the same behavior - the lag in start up - as the Vizio, no matter what I do with my head, or toes. I can sit closer to this monitor too. The Vizio has somewhat better color (deeper blacks), though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr0lHrMMagI

This is actually very interesting, and approved by Sony.

Some new points:

1. Each camera is aligned individually at the factory.

2. The internal battery is actually one of the standard batteries sold for Sony P&S cameras (I have a few).

With action and a storyline and a conclusion:

http://youtu.be/hnP1K5Zeys4?hd=1

Not just pretty pictures of buildings and flowers.

Don, I will check. I am in the field not using Vegas to edit, so the program I used may have mucked up the sound in combination with what Youtube does. Just may be no shortcuts. Interestingly, not many programs handle mp4 (avc) with aac sound well - m2ts and ac3 has a lot of software options. I was trying to avoid conversion outside of Vegas (which I do not have with me).

And on this one, sound is particularly important - train whistle, chugging, and a big bang when the trains collide.

Oh, well I can always cover it up with a music track...

Even on youtube with red green 3D,you sold me on the 3D bloggie. I have a 60 inch 3D DLP with active shutter,and this is my first non smartphone digital camcorder purchase.After i saw the carousel footage,i ordered it straight away.Thanks guys for all the footage and insight.

Loslonelyman: I continue to be amazed at the quality of the 3D videos and even the stills from the 3D Bloggie. I think Don's original pool video with kid is one of the best 3D videos I have seen from any camera on Youtube - good color even in anaglyph, good 3D depth, action, a cute kid, and actual audio (rather than a substituted music soundtrack copout).

Enjoy.

The (stereo) sound quality of the 3D Bloggie is very good.

Don, On the train video - the "hiss" is the actual sound of these massive engines at rest - there were three of them. That sound is loud, and the Bloggie mics have delivered the sound appropriately (the relative volume and frequency spectrum). I was back at the same place gaging the sound again to check (that was not the only reason for returning).

As to cut outs: when I use Vegas and can see the Bloggie sound and video tracks, in many clips the sound ends before the video part ends (the sound and video are in perfect synch, it is just the sound cuts out before the video stops, evidently). This does not happen for all clips, so I am not sure what is causing this - the way the button is pressed on the camera? the direction of the wind? noidding my head? In the train video, I did not have access to Vegas, and just butt-sequenced the clips - no trimming. So the audio gaps were evident. This issue does not pertain to the TD10. Do you see this in your Bloggie clips?

Is this Sony Noise Reduction Module included in Vegas Software? If it is,could you give me some idea where? I am learning how to use it on the fly and some of my Bloggie vids have overpowering ambient noise. Thanks again for all the insight into this new photographic realm i am trudging through.

That explains it I have 64bit Vegas and could not find it. Now to get 32 bit installed. If i had known all the redundant software i would need with a 64bit o/s i never would have bothered upgrading. Thanks again Don

Update from version 1.07 to 1.09, to "improve file compatability".

Even with the new firmware my 65lw6500 LG TV will not recognize the mpo files created by the Bloggie. They play fine through hdmi from the Bloggie itself, but when copied to a usb device (or simply even chosen when using the Bloggie in usb mode) from the TV menu, I get an invalid file error.

Luckily I have figured out a fairly simple way to make the LG be able to read them. Got Stereo Photo Maker from here http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/ and if you open the stereo mpo file with the program and just save it without doing anything (you can up the default compression if you desire) then the resulting saved file can be played natively by the LG TV. Something about the Sony mpo implementation that the LG doesn't like gets fixed by the program. Thankfully the program includes a batch feature so it is easy to fix a whole series of pictures.

Just as a gratuitous comment, many 3D videos I have seen posted might be better off being slide shows of 3D stills - static shots of buildings, flowers, or gardens or even posing people. If there is no movement, of camera or subject, might as well take mpo's (less shaking)...

Well, I just bought the bloggie 3d yesterday (and for that matter I got the TV five days ago) so right now I have all kinds of pictures of the couch and soda cans and my foot and everything else that makes us all go ooh and ahh and makes the kids think some kind of magic is happening.

I'm not a professional photographer so I imagine we will just be using it for a little awe factor in home movies and pictures right now but my wife is a Disney freak and I think would like to do some kind of 3d Disneyland tour stuff for a Disney fan forum.

As an aside, the LG TV wasn't able to recognize the demo 3d avi files I downloaded from the Fuji site which are created by the W3 camera. This is why I couldnt even consider that camera and went with the bloggie 3d whose native video files play beautifully on the 65lw6500.

The 3D Bloggie videos are much better than the W3 videos.

For making anaglyph photos the free Stereo Photo Maker does a good job of converting mpo files to anaglyph, and the anaglyph jpegs can be viewed on any monitor or printed by any color printer. You do need those paper glasses (red/cyan).

If you want to see some great Disneyland (World?) 3D videos, look for Don's videos on Youtube. They are made using the Sony TD10, but the 3D Bloggie does a really nice job too, and is lot easier to carry around.

The major advantage of the 3D Bloggie is that you can take it anywhere, and shoot 3D without drawing attention.

This video is of train travel from Hong Kong to China in an MTR (first class and regular) and in a high speed train. Plus restaurants, stations, some street life.

Edited in Sony Vegas Platinum 11.

Does this sony Bloggie 3D ONLY use the red/blue glasses for viewing? I keep reading it looks great on an actual 3D tv. But actual 3D tv's use either active or the passive 3D system. Any tv can display the red/blue image if using the red/blue glasses. So what is the point of viewing on an actual 3D tv if you are only able to use the 1950's red/blue glasses? i don't get it.