I decided against the Onkyo 608 becasue of the running hot issues because the reciver may be inside a cabinet, not sure yet. Yes the bose speakers ive already decided agsint, just did not like the ound really and no center chanel. I need small, so I was looking at orb audio and mirage. For the time being I will ttry and see how the curent old onkyop speakers hold up. I will let you know about how hot the Yamaha gets hopefully by Monday.