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post #121 of 1281
I havd a GA-H55M-USB3-Rev2 and the driver listed on Gigabyte's site for that board is 8.15.10.2104; 2010/04/27 but I am running a later driver from intel's site (8.15.10.2361; 4/13/2011). Maybe I should roll back my driver?
post #122 of 1281
Interesting. I have a GA-H67MA-USB3-B3 motherboard and saw the Intel HD video driver from June listed on their site. I had been running the beta drivers from July but decided to give the ones on the Gigabyte site a try. Amazingly enough they work better than the beta drivers. I can now turn UAC back on and 24P still works, unlike the beta drivers. Thanks again for the info snef.
post #123 of 1281
Using an NVidia 9800GTX, using a custom resolution to tweak the total vertical lines to 1128 rather than 1124 nails 23.976 on the nose for me.

Vern
post #124 of 1281
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Originally Posted by Vern Dias View Post

Using an NVidia 9800GTX, using a custom resolution to tweak the total vertical lines to 1128 rather than 1124 nails 23.976 on the nose for me.

Vern

Interesting, I've never tweaked the vertical lines, do you also adjust the Hz or timings?
post #125 of 1281
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Originally Posted by snef View Post

go to Gigabyte website and check in GA-H67MA-UD2H-B3
look for Intel VGA Drivers
the latest intel driver are there
2418 from June 22 2011

the BSOD at boot is now fixed

i just finish a HTPC and no problem on my TV but when i tried on another TV,
BSOD, mine is a Samsng PN50C8000 and the one with BSOD is PN58C8000
same reciever (onkyo 608) same HDMI cable, only the tv
install 2219 driver and fixed, reinstall 2361 BSOD, go to Gigabyte Website and saw the new drivers, try it and no more BSOD

I wonder if that driver would work with my i3-550 and GA-H55M-USB3-Rev2 Mobo?
post #126 of 1281
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Interesting, I've never tweaked the vertical lines, do you also adjust the Hz or timings?

Create a 23Hz custom resolution. Change the total lines (pixels) for the vertical from 1124 to 1128, change the vertical sync width from 5 to 4, set the refresh rate to 23.976.

Vern
post #127 of 1281
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

I wonder if that driver would work with my i3-550 and GA-H55M-USB3-Rev2 Mobo?

I assumed (maybe wrong) any Intel video driver for a sandy bridge motherboard will work on any other motherboard because the driver is just for the CPU.
post #128 of 1281
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

I wonder if that driver would work with my i3-550 and GA-H55M-USB3-Rev2 Mobo?

i3-550 is a Clarkdale. So, even though the driver MAY install properly on your Clarkdale mobo, the behaviour will not be the same as that on a Sandy Bridge mobo / CPU.
post #129 of 1281
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jakmal View Post

i3-550 is a Clarkdale. So, even though the driver MAY install properly on your Clarkdale mobo, the behaviour will not be the same as that on a Sandy Bridge mobo / CPU.

Agreed. I wouldn't install SNB drivers on a Clarkdale.
post #130 of 1281
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Originally Posted by Vern Dias View Post

Create a 23Hz custom resolution. Change the total lines (pixels) for the vertical from 1124 to 1128, change the vertical sync width from 5 to 4, set the refresh rate to 23.976.

Vern

I've never messed with the vertical lines but I get perfect 23.976 by setting the res to 24 and setting my timings to 23.977. Il try your way and see what happens.
post #131 of 1281
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Originally Posted by Vern Dias View Post

Create a 23Hz custom resolution. Change the total lines (pixels) for the vertical from 1124 to 1128, change the vertical sync width from 5 to 4, set the refresh rate to 23.976.

Vern

Interesting addition here.
post #132 of 1281
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Originally Posted by Vern Dias View Post

Create a 23Hz custom resolution. Change the total lines (pixels) for the vertical from 1124 to 1128, change the vertical sync width from 5 to 4, set the refresh rate to 23.976.

Vern

Sweet, this works better than what I had. When played on evr I had perfect 23.976 but under madvr I got 23.97550 wich is 5/10,000 off, or 50/100,000 off. But with yours under madvr its 23.97600 wich is absolutly perfect, awesome!!

Most of the time it stays at 23.97600 but sometimes flucuates to between 23.97599 to 23.97602. That's still only at the most 2/100,000 off!
post #133 of 1281
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Originally Posted by Vern Dias View Post

Create a 23Hz custom resolution. Change the total lines (pixels) for the vertical from 1124 to 1128, change the vertical sync width from 5 to 4, set the refresh rate to 23.976.

Vern

Oh one thing I wanted to add was that my vertical pixels started out at 1125 not 1124, but I still set it at 1128.
post #134 of 1281
Now, can this be done in Linux?
post #135 of 1281
This is all still so frustrating to me. I can still get better playback with HD Audio from my $45 Patriot Box Office (m2ts natively too boot) than I get from my HTPC. The menus arent as slick as Media Browser buy I don't have to have to pay for the use after the trial period expires either. I am seriously thinking of using the PBO to do my video streaming and the HTPC for other things such as recording and watching live TV and internet media.
post #136 of 1281
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Originally Posted by jakmal View Post

i3-550 is a Clarkdale. So, even though the driver MAY install properly on your Clarkdale mobo, the behaviour will not be the same as that on a Sandy Bridge mobo / CPU.

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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Agreed. I wouldn't install SNB drivers on a Clarkdale.

I was thinking the same thing but over on intel's site the driver downloads are not specific to either one but rather whether you have 32 or 64 bit OS. Still leary of giving it a whirl, though. But I just might.
post #137 of 1281
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post
This is all still so frustrating to me. I can still get better playback with HD Audio from my $45 Patriot Box Office (m2ts natively too boot) than I get from my HTPC. The menus arent as slick as Media Browser buy I don't have to have to pay for the use after the trial period expires either. I am seriously thinking of using the PBO to do my video streaming and the HTPC for other things such as recording and watching live TV and internet media.
Welcome to the club I've literally built a dozen machines over about 10 years trying to get a prefect setup always thinking it was the next one, but always some other issue crops up...the goal is always very close but never reachable.

BTW, I did try driver version 2372, and downloaded the Gigabyte 2418 from June 22 2011. Why the hell does Gigabyte have newer drivers than intel is stupid... Neither driver did anything for me still video glitch every 4minutes and still 42ms lip-sync variation every 4 minutes.

Sounds like a custom resolution will get it right! Just got to buy a Nvidia video card now instead of the AMD I just ordered...
post #138 of 1281
Okay. Maybe someone more knowledgable here can help me out. I'm trying to set up a custom resolution for my GT430, but it won't let me set it up as 24 hz. And it also won't let me edit the timings. I have a resolution of 1920 x 1080 at 24 hz under the 3d heading, but it only lists 1920 x 1080 at 60 hz under the HD heading. When I try to do a custom resolution of 24 hz and I test it, it sets itself to 23 hz, then tells me the tv doesn't support that resolution. What am I doing wrong? Or am I misunderstanding how this should work? When I play a 3d movie the resolution changes to 1920 x 1080 at 24 hz.


By the way, my setup is SNB 2100 with GT430 to Pioneer receiver to Samsung 3d plasma

Thank you in advance.
post #139 of 1281
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Originally Posted by fyrfyter71 View Post

Okay. Maybe someone more knowledgable here can help me out. I'm trying to set up a custom resolution for my GT430, but it won't let me set it up as 24 hz. And it also won't let me edit the timings. I have a resolution of 1920 x 1080 at 24 hz under the 3d heading, but it only lists 1920 x 1080 at 60 hz under the HD heading. When I try to do a custom resolution of 24 hz and I test it, it sets itself to 23 hz, then tells me the tv doesn't support that resolution. What am I doing wrong? Or am I misunderstanding how this should work? When I play a 3d movie the resolution changes to 1920 x 1080 at 24 hz.

By the way, my setup is SNB 2100 with GT430 to Pioneer receiver to Samsung 3d plasma

Thank you in advance.

Anyone?
post #140 of 1281
My HD 6850 is doing this without any user input I just set the Panny VT25 for 23Hz and ReClock reports proper refresh rates.

post #141 of 1281
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Originally Posted by joeydrunk View Post

Sweet, this works better than what I had. When played on evr I had perfect 23.976 but under madvr I got 23.97550 wich is 5/10,000 off, or 50/100,000 off. But with yours under madvr its 23.97600 wich is absolutly perfect, awesome!!

Most of the time it stays at 23.97600 but sometimes flucuates to between 23.97599 to 23.97602. That's still only at the most 2/100,000 off!



Doesn't work on a Gigabyte GTX 550ti, i got a 23.971xx something.
post #142 of 1281
It always depends on your receiver and TV as well.
post #143 of 1281
MadVr is reporting proper timings as usual along with ReClock. Playback is butter smooth on the HD 6850, W7x64 i5 @ 4.01 gigs on air using Gigabyte UD3 P55 mobo. All bios Sata drivers inf's etc updated...
post #144 of 1281
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Originally Posted by jakmal View Post

After some testing (a bit more extensive than usual), I think Intel has solved the 24p issue with Sandy Bridge (driver version 2372). No more UAC disabling or lip-sync errors (at least while bitstreaming HD audio).

Is this Driver Version 2372 available yet?

I keep checking the Intel download center and the latest graphics driver appears to still be 15.22.1.2361 dated 5/3/2011.

Any idea when 2372 or some later version will be released?
post #145 of 1281
Although in the past I have felt that understand well "what" exactly the 24p "bug" is about; however, I'm no longer clear as to what I'm currently experiencing is indeed related to the 24p issue or something else altogether.

Let me clarify here & then maybe someone can point me in the right direction.

I recently built a Sandy Bridge HTPC, core components being:

Intel Core i5-2500K (Sandy Bridge) CPU
Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 X 4Gb) DDR 1600 Memory

I have the Samsung PN63C8000 TV (Known capable of handling 24p amongst other framerates)

Primarily, my main GUI is MediaPortal + TMT5 (For BD/3D Playback).

I don't "see" any stutter every 42 seconds or something; what I do experience is this ... Whenever there is extremely fast motion or a long PAN in the visual ... it is not smooth at all. It's somewhat "jerky" and very un-smooth. This only happens in large/fast pans & fast movement of the camera (not the actors/objects).

For example, if the camera was trying to show the entire city from left to right - the flow of the scene would not be smooth at all - instead, very jerky.

The thing to note is that this primarily happens in HD Content, especially 24p content like Blu-ray, HD MKV's etc.

The "Cinema Smooth" feature in my TV, which is mainly for 24p content, is Turned On.

I really do not know if what I'm experiencing is something to do with 24p or not!
post #146 of 1281


EDIT:
HDDVD_2 .mkv:
post #147 of 1281
I can't get custom 23.976 profile to save. When I save it, it says as 24Hz flat with automatic timing.
post #148 of 1281
I recently upgraded from a 720p projector to a 1080p, 24Hz capable. Now, when I watch a Blu-Ray movie using 1080p, 23Hz settings on Catalyst it plays fine for the first 30 min or so, then I start to see frame drops that gets more constant as the time goes on. In order to fix it, I just need to pause the movie for a few seconds and resume again. After that I have another 30min or so of smooth playback. Anyone faced similar issues before? Any recommendations?

My setup:

- ATI 5670 running CCC 11.5
- TMT 3 with the 190 patch, playing from inside Media Center
- 1080p, 24Hz
- windows 7 MC, 32 bits, 4GB Ram

BTW, it happens with both ripped movies & disks.
post #149 of 1281
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Originally Posted by danbez View Post

I recently upgraded from a 720p projector to a 1080p, 24Hz capable. Now, when I watch a Blu-Ray movie using 1080p, 23Hz settings on Catalyst it plays fine for the first 30 min or so, then I start to see frame drops that gets more constant as the time goes on. In order to fix it, I just need to pause the movie for a few seconds and resume again. After that I have another 30min or so of smooth playback. Anyone faced similar issues before? Any recommendations?

My setup:

- ATI 5670 running CCC 11.5
- TMT 3 with the 190 patch, playing from inside Media Center
- 1080p, 24Hz
- windows 7 MC, 32 bits, 4GB Ram

BTW, it happens with both ripped movies & disks.

You're not alone. I hope somebody out there has an answer. I want to blame ATI for it because when I use Core i5/i7 integrated graphics, TMT does not have this problem at all, but then it is 24.0 instead of 23.976. Right now my H67 motherboard is being replaced because its sata ports went flaky, and I'm using an different computer with a 5770 & CCC 11.5 as my temporary HTPC. Same problem. Every time I've tried to use ATI with various driver versions and TMT3 or TMT5, I hit this same bug. Everything is playing smoothly at very close to 23.976, and then it starts dropping a frame here and there and then it is dropping lots of frames all over the place. Pausing and resuming will fix it, for a while. It is much more annoying than the 24.0 is not 23.976 issue.
post #150 of 1281
Thread Starter 
I finally dumped ATI all together. Nothing but headache after headache.

Tried Nvidia for a while. It was okay.

Believe it or not the Intel integrated GPU and drivers give me the least amount of trouble, fwiw.
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