Originally Posted by jeffkro
There is no doubt Sandy Bridge is the superior cpu, but for HTPC thats not really a big deal since we are basically only talking multimedia here. I'm guessing the E2-3250 will be able to handle every format of multimedia including 1080p60, 3D blueray, and all audio formats. It should also do this at a lower price than intel's offerings and don't forget radeon gpu's are superior to intel's. No I think llano will be a very good option for us HTPC guys, and intel will be the choice for gamers.
"The E-350's competitor is Atom/ION. It's so much slower than even a Celeron Wolfdale it's not even funny. Imho, match-ups should be E2-3250 vs Celeron (~$50), A4-3350 vs Pentium G600 (~$70), A6-3450 vs Pentium G800 (~$90) and A8-3550 vs Core i3 (~$120). Then just sell the A6-3450P for ~$110 and the A8-3550P for ~$140."
Don't you have to get the core i3 from intel to get all the built in graphics functions? That means the minimum intel cpu is the core i3 2100.
We're not sure what features the Pentium will have cut. Given the competition, Intel might decide to leave HD audio bitstreaming support. Even if they did cut 3D, few people actually care about that. Besides, Intel CPU is fast enough to handle video decoding via software.
True, Llano will draw in the HTPC crowd but if they want a bigger slice of the market (those who don't care about DXVA and whether it's the GPU or CPU that does the work as long as it gets done), we'll probably see some price drops. That's what happened with the Athlon II when Clarkdale was released and now with Sandy Bridge. Unfortunately for AMD, Intel has better brand recognition and they need to capture more than just the netbook market to stay competitive.
Originally Posted by StardogChampion
One of the things that struck me funny about that chart is they're saying not even their A8 quad-core offerings compete against the SB i5 offerings. You have to wait until Zambezi to get that.
If the prices are good, I'll probably upgrade my Phenom II x3 / 780G / HD5670 main living room PC to one of the Lynx offerings but only if the wattage, heat output, reviews, etc. come in good. I am excited these will start showing up in just a couple of months now.
That's really what it boils down to. If pricing is similar to Athlon II (or just $10~20 more), Llano's going to be a big hit. If they think they can price the A8-3550 same as the Core i5-2300, good luck.
I realize Llano would probably cut into their more lucrative entry-level graphics business but AMD IGP improvements are long overdue. It's like they just stopped making better integrated graphics once NVIDIA was out of the picture. We've had practically the same performance since 780G/790GX to current (bar Zacate). It's only with recent improvements from Clarkdale and Sandy Bridge that AMD felt threatened. Competition for the win.