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post #10081 of 16109
Pretty cool that there is some gear heads in here!

I used to live in CA, so most years I got to go to the Winter nationals in Pomona, yes those top fuel and funny cars are awesome!

I still get a kick out of street legal cars posting 10sec et's or faster, even though they are 'slow' compared to the tubed framed beasts!
post #10082 of 16109
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Originally Posted by Reddig View Post

I love drag racing! Go with my dad all the time. There is a monumental differnce in loudness between Top Fuel dragsters that do 4 second quarter miles and the slower 7-10 second Pro Street dragsters. The Top Fuel big boys sound just as loud or louder than a jet and when they hit the throttle it taks your breath away literally.

I dunno. I've heard some pretty loud jets. I still think the A-6E was the loudest in the Navy.

Then there's the sonic boom shaking an aircraft carrier. Talk about LFE!
post #10083 of 16109
How about a B-1 bomber at full TRT? eek.gif

I was an AF aircraft mechanic and you guys working on those Carriers are crazy! dunno how you guys do that with all of that movement of craft on such a 'small' space.
post #10084 of 16109
I watched Olympus Has Fallen tonight looking forward to all the scenes mentioned previously. I was a bit underwhelmed given the feedback. I thought maybe my system, which has had a few changes (now dual JTR 2400 Caps powered by Behringer EP4000) may not have been EQ'd quite right. I then watched the IMO five star Transformers Dark Of The Moon and was literally blown back in my seat by the Bass in that movie. No problem with the setup definitely. Dont get me wrong OHF was good in the bass dept just not mindblowingly good. I have wondered whether a sealed setup may do better with a movie like this. Im not sure if thats the issue as the positive reviews were written mostly by Seaton owners which measure lower frequencies. In scenes like the bumblebee flip (Transformers DOTM)I get a massive amount of LFE through the Caps. Not sure how low this digs but anyway. Anybody know a scene with ULF around 15Hz and below that I should test? Anybody else think the same about OHF? I watched Jack the Giant Slayer the other night and thought that to be pretty awesome in the LFE dept. Iron Man 3 agree with all before except when the choppers blow Starks house of the cliff. That scene wasnt too bad. Flight Of The Phoenix plane crash scene is incredible through the Caps too.
post #10085 of 16109
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Originally Posted by AJ72 View Post

I watched Olympus Has Fallen tonight looking forward to all the scenes mentioned previously. I was a bit underwhelmed given the feedback. I thought maybe my system, which has had a few changes (now dual JTR 2400 Caps powered by Behringer EP4000) may not have been EQ'd quite right. I then watched the IMO five star Transformers Dark Of The Moon and was literally blown back in my seat by the Bass in that movie. No problem with the setup definitely. Dont get me wrong OHF was good in the bass dept just not mindblowingly good. I have wondered whether a sealed setup may do better with a movie like this. Im not sure if thats the issue as the positive reviews were written mostly by Seaton owners which measure lower frequencies. In scenes like the bumblebee flip (Transformers DOTM)I get a massive amount of LFE through the Caps. Not sure how low this digs but anyway. Anybody know a scene with ULF around 15Hz and below that I should test? Anybody else think the same about OHF? I watched Jack the Giant Slayer the other night and thought that to be pretty awesome in the LFE dept. Iron Man 3 agree with all before except when the choppers blow Starks house of the cliff. That scene wasnt too bad. Flight Of The Phoenix plane crash scene is incredible through the Caps too.

You do not (and will not ever) know what you are missing until you hear these scenes through a very capable sealed setup.
post #10086 of 16109
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post


You do not (and will not ever) know what you are missing until you hear these scenes through a very capable sealed setup.

 

+1.

 

The OHF Washington Monument scenes is one of my favorite (if not favorite) ULF scenes...and my ULF score is a half star behind popalock... ;) 

post #10087 of 16109
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

You do not (and will not ever) know what you are missing until you hear these scenes through a very capable sealed setup.

Examples of a very capable sealed setup?
post #10088 of 16109
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Originally Posted by coolcat4843 View Post

Examples of a very capable sealed setup?
Have you seen popalock's build thread? wink.gif
post #10089 of 16109
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

I watched the Hurt Locker the other day as well. A couple of good drops in the Hurt Locker also a good movie.

The Hurt Locker

The detonation of a massive bomb, by cell phone, in chapter one (Time stamp 8:00).
I could feel my room being pressurized, as the shock wave rolled across the room and hit me in the chest.

Anybody do a spectrum graph of this scene?
post #10090 of 16109
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Originally Posted by BornSlippyZ View Post

How about a B-1 bomber at full TRT? eek.gif

I was an AF aircraft mechanic and you guys working on those Carriers are crazy! dunno how you guys do that with all of that movement of craft on such a 'small' space.

I did say in the Navy. I have heard Air Force jets, but at a distance.

I didn't work on the flight deck. I worked in a nice air-conditioned electronics shop.
post #10091 of 16109
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

I did say in the Navy. I have heard Air Force jets, but at a distance.

I didn't work on the flight deck. I worked in a nice air-conditioned electronics shop.
Air conditioning was the main reason (the girls were the other reason) I took tumbling at summer camp in elementary school.
post #10092 of 16109
Author of post #1 -

it would be pretty cool to compile a similar list of BASS in music selections!
post #10093 of 16109
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Originally Posted by JA Fant View Post

Author of post #1 -

it would be pretty cool to compile a similar list of BASS in music selections!

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1421019/the-master-list-of-bass-in-music-and-more-with-frequency-charts
post #10094 of 16109
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Originally Posted by AJ72 View Post

I watched Olympus Has Fallen tonight looking forward to all the scenes mentioned previously. I was a bit underwhelmed given the feedback. I thought maybe my system, which has had a few changes (now dual JTR 2400 Caps powered by Behringer EP4000) may not have been EQ'd quite right. I then watched the IMO five star Transformers Dark Of The Moon and was literally blown back in my seat by the Bass in that movie. No problem with the setup definitely. Dont get me wrong OHF was good in the bass dept just not mindblowingly good. I have wondered whether a sealed setup may do better with a movie like this. Im not sure if thats the issue as the positive reviews were written mostly by Seaton owners which measure lower frequencies. In scenes like the bumblebee flip (Transformers DOTM)I get a massive amount of LFE through the Caps. Not sure how low this digs but anyway. Anybody know a scene with ULF around 15Hz and below that I should test? Anybody else think the same about OHF? I watched Jack the Giant Slayer the other night and thought that to be pretty awesome in the LFE dept. Iron Man 3 agree with all before except when the choppers blow Starks house of the cliff. That scene wasnt too bad. Flight Of The Phoenix plane crash scene is incredible through the Caps too.
If you want to know if your setup is good in the ULF region, check out WOTW.

While the 'Pod Emerging' scene is still one of my all-time favorite scenes because there's so much going on, the 'Lightning Strikes' and the 'Basement Plane Crash' are the true ULF stars in that movie. If those are underwhelming (especially the BPC scene, as the other 2 scenes also contain mid and upper bass content, where the BPC scene is mostly ULF), then you need more output with a sealed setup. The same goes with the OHF track. There ae a few scenes where the main content is 20Hz and below and there's less above 30Hz. Strange choice by the mixers as these scenes wouldn't be reproduced well by any commercial theaters. It's as if they designed the audio in those scenes specifically for us ULF nuts.


Max
post #10095 of 16109
Warning!!!

Turn your volume down and SLOWLY bring it up!!!

I'm not responsible if you blow your subs up with this! This is UNREAL!!!!

http://listentothedeep.net/acoustics/multiListen2.php?loc1=16&loc2=17&

Good luck!
post #10096 of 16109
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

I did say in the Navy. I have heard Air Force jets, but at a distance.

I didn't work on the flight deck. I worked in a nice air-conditioned electronics shop.

You were the smart one!

I did some research online )dunno how accurate it is) one guy measured the B1B, full TRT, 500ft above the ground at 133db.
post #10097 of 16109
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Originally Posted by AJ72 View Post

Anybody know a scene with ULF around 15Hz and below that I should test?

The classroom scene in Dredd should just about do it.
post #10098 of 16109
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Originally Posted by coolcat4843 View Post

The Hurt Locker

The detonation of a massive bomb, by cell phone, in chapter one (Time stamp 8:00).
I could feel my room being pressurized, as the shock wave rolled across the room and hit me in the chest.

Anybody do a spectrum graph of this scene?

It's on the data bass lfe thread in one of the last couple pages.
post #10099 of 16109
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Originally Posted by djbluemax1 View Post

If you want to know if your setup is good in the ULF region, check out WOTW.

While the 'Pod Emerging' scene is still one of my all-time favorite scenes because there's so much going on, the 'Lightning Strikes' and the 'Basement Plane Crash' are the true ULF stars in that movie. If those are underwhelming (especially the BPC scene, as the other 2 scenes also contain mid and upper bass content, where the BPC scene is mostly ULF), then you need more output with a sealed setup. The same goes with the OHF track. There ae a few scenes where the main content is 20Hz and below and there's less above 30Hz. Strange choice by the mixers as these scenes wouldn't be reproduced well by any commercial theaters. It's as if they designed the audio in those scenes specifically for us ULF nuts.

Yes W.O.T.W does sound awesome but I like other scenes from other movies better which suggests I'm probably missing some of the ULF in those scenes mentioned above. Tron Legacy is probably the most awesome film to watch on my setup for bass. My Caps are set at around 18Hz port tune and I just love the slam and impact I get. I guess thats the sacrifice of a ported setup. However in the 18-100Hz range I'm not left wanting. Popalock I saw your setup in that feature not long ago. Yeah I could live with that!

Edited by AJ72 - 9/7/13 at 5:18pm
post #10100 of 16109
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Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf View Post

The classroom scene in Dredd should just about do it.

I'm not sure exactly what the classroom scene is; but if it's the one I'm thinking about, that one is pretty nuts. One of the longest continuous waves I've heard in a while. Ears started tickling after a while. biggrin.gif
post #10101 of 16109
Just seen the Robocop trailer on YouTube. It has potential
post #10102 of 16109
Anyone watch "Tron Legacy" for the what ever number time and want to rethink your best 5 star bass movie moments biggrin.gif
post #10103 of 16109
AJ72:

I think it's pretty clear that, with ported subs, you're missing all the ULF action that makes those other scenes so good. There's nothing wrong with your subs - they're great - and you surely have a ton of fun from 20Hz on up! For example, the FOTP barrel roll scene is extremely strong content at 32Hz, right in the wheelhouse of your ported caps! Also, who knows what your room is doing? Measuring your room would help determine what you're experiencing.

audiofan1:

Tron has a lot of really good scenes, but my favorite are:

Entering the grid (7Hz ULF pulse right after he gets ported into the grid by the laser)
Disc Wars (the fireworks contain solid ULF in some parts, plus that pounding musical score)
Light cycle battle (the Daft Punk score pounds out the bass)
Plane battle near the end (same great Daft Punk score, with some added explosions that dig deep)
post #10104 of 16109
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Originally Posted by AJ72 View Post

I watched Olympus Has Fallen tonight looking forward to all the scenes mentioned previously. I was a bit underwhelmed given the feedback. I thought maybe my system, which has had a few changes (now dual JTR 2400 Caps powered by Behringer EP4000) may not have been EQ'd quite right. I then watched the IMO five star Transformers Dark Of The Moon and was literally blown back in my seat by the Bass in that movie. No problem with the setup definitely. Dont get me wrong OHF was good in the bass dept just not mindblowingly good. I have wondered whether a sealed setup may do better with a movie like this. Im not sure if thats the issue as the positive reviews were written mostly by Seaton owners which measure lower frequencies. In scenes like the bumblebee flip (Transformers DOTM)I get a massive amount of LFE through the Caps. Not sure how low this digs but anyway. Anybody know a scene with ULF around 15Hz and below that I should test? Anybody else think the same about OHF? I watched Jack the Giant Slayer the other night and thought that to be pretty awesome in the LFE dept. Iron Man 3 agree with all before except when the choppers blow Starks house of the cliff. That scene wasnt too bad. Flight Of The Phoenix plane crash scene is incredible through the Caps too.
Yes i thought the same with OHF when i had my XV-30 there was supposed to be some 20hz contend but it didnt to to much in my room, glad im not alone one this.
post #10105 of 16109
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Originally Posted by Joshjp View Post

Yes i thought the same with OHF when i had my XV-30 there was supposed to be some 20hz contend but it didnt to to much in my room, glad im not alone one this.

Well again, like nube said, it's due to the port design
post #10106 of 16109
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Anyone watch "Tron Legacy" for the what ever number time and want to rethink your best 5 star bass movie moments biggrin.gif


Agree with Nube. Legacy is a favorite of mine for LFE!
post #10107 of 16109
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Agree with Nube. Legacy is a favorite of mine for LFE!

Its energy incarnate and just a pure joy to watch! I got to admit Toe ! this is a good argument for the shifting aspect ratio as its so seemless as to not distract, but I may feel differently once I get around to going FP wink.gif
post #10108 of 16109
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Its energy incarnate and just a pure joy to watch! I got to admit Toe ! this is a good argument for the shifting aspect ratio as its so seemless as to not distract, but I may feel differently once I get around to going FP wink.gif


I always enjoyed variable aspect on my 1.78 screen, but since moving to a 2.35 screen where variable aspect does not work as intended, I always prefer constant aspect. On a 2.35 screen if doing the zoom method (front projection) with a variable aspect film like Legacy, when the frame opens to 1.78 it spills out over the top and bottom of the viewable screen area and looks like $hit. I can mask this with my video processor to a constant 2.35, but I much prefer a constant aspect right from the transfer where the framing has been optimized for a scope ratio. Basically variable aspect and a CIH setup are not a good match and constant aspect is always preferred in this type of setup.


As far as Tron and bass goes, this is a great example of an LFE track I love which has great moments throughout and ends with that long flying sequence and the climactic scene that follows. My overall favorite LFE tracks assuming I am judging the track as a whole start to finish (not just select scenes) always end strong like this, Battle LA, Hellboy 2, Matrix Revolutions, etc.......... I just love these type of tracks that push you right over the cliff with LFE at the end which for me really leave a lasting impression.
Edited by Toe - 9/8/13 at 4:14pm
post #10109 of 16109
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

I always enjoyed variable aspect on my 1.78 screen, but since moving to a 2.35 screen where variable aspect does not work as intended, I always prefer constant aspect. On a 2.35 screen if doing the zoom method (front projection) with a variable aspect film like Legacy, when the frame opens to 1.78 it spills out over the top and bottom of the viewable screen area and looks like $hit. I can mask this with my video processor to a constant 2.35, but I much prefer a constant aspect right from the transfer where the framing has been optimized for a scope ratio. Basically variable aspect and a CIH setup are not a good match and constant aspect is always preferred in this type of setup.


As far as Tron and bass goes, this is a great example of an LFE track I love which has great moments throughout and ends with that long flying sequence and the climactic scene that follows. My overall favorite LFE tracks assuming I am judging the track as a whole start to finish (not just select scenes) always end strong like this, Battle LA, Hellboy 2, Matrix Revolutions, etc.......... I just love these type of tracks that push you right over the cliff with LFE at the end which for me really leave a lasting impression.

Well said wink.gif
post #10110 of 16109
Me and the wife just watched Pulse. She's not really a fan of scary flicks so I told her I rented it because she likes Kristen Bell 😈. Some great bass scenes throughout, but the server scene was nuts. She said, "it's shaking the whole couch, it's freaking me out!" Perfect.
It was a little disappointing that the bass wasn't as intense when the guy re-entered the server room, missed opportunity. Not sure what its rated at buy the first server scene's a 5. Good recommendation, thanks!
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