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post #10381 of 16085
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

I am just curious. How do you know this for sure. Do you have any charts(seem to be the only way to tell know). I don't know where you live but a legit BR doesn't come out until Sept 24th in the U.S. I was just wondering how you knew this already.

Here are some other posters who also saw and commented on it after I did. This was from 3 weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by Mrkazador View Post

I quickly scanned through it with Speclab and it does seem filtered at around 15-20hz. A lot of the LFE is in the 30-40hz area but there is some content at 20hz.

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Originally Posted by Steveo1234 View Post

Iron man 3

Ok, lets start with the good things: Excellent audio track. Really really good.. Listening at reference was not a problem at all. Movie was pretty damn entertaining too.
Bass? Well, disappointed would sum it all up I think. It felt like a car where you constantly hit the rpm-limiter. I felt the bass on the way and then just "BAM" ,nothing. Not the deep powerful bass the LFE hinted at was on the way. So, that sucked. I ran the LFE 2db over my standard setting (of +4db) to make it seem a little better and that helped. Im guessing that the LFE is high passed somewhere around 20hz or so and that there´s some sort of level-limiter as well even though I wouldn´t necessarily complain about the level.

So, Id sum it up as a weak 4star movie. But, then again, I thought (and still think) Avengers was a 4.5star movie so there you go.
Didnt watch a crappy blurayrip mkv but the EUR bluray with 7.1 audio.

I checked my settings since it almost sounded like night mode was enabled. But, unfortunaltly it wasnt.
post #10382 of 16085
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Didn't watch it yet, but it was released yesterday - my copy from amazon came in. Maybe your thinking of IM3?
That's the movie and the quote I am asking about references that movie and that post. Post 10363. If it was released yesterday then I apologize. The date I had written down said it was being released next week.
post #10383 of 16085
OK. This is by no means meant to be a definitive list, and I am sure there are other movies out there that clip or filter, but I find it interesting that the following:
Iron Man 3
The Avengers
super 8
Star Trek ITD
Thor
G.I Joe Retaliation.
had issues with either being clipped, filtered, or both AND were all at least partly Paramount produced films. Another film that clipped was The Immortals but that was done by a different production company. Does that mean that all Paramount films are filtered. No. But all of those films are post 2009 films which is the year the first Star Trek film came out. I just think that is interesting that's all. Again, it's not an all kind of thing, but a lot of the movies people have issues with say they were mixed with Datastat for the audio. Again, most but not all
Edited by MIkeDuke - 9/18/13 at 6:50am
post #10384 of 16085
Don't forget The Hobbit which is the biggest LFE disappointment yet IMO!
post #10385 of 16085
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Don't forget The Hobbit which is the biggest LFE disappointment yet IMO!
Different studio, but it used a Datastat processor. I am not trying to lay the blame at anybodies feet. I am just trying to see if there was ANY kind of pattern in the films that were all labeled as disappointing films. But I guess I just shot my own theory out of the water because Oblivion was also mixed with a Datasat processor. So I don't know frown.gif.
post #10386 of 16085
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Don't forget The Hobbit which is the biggest LFE disappointment yet IMO!

After the LOTR trilogy I've had my fill of hairy homunculus's....
post #10387 of 16085
Did anyone else notice how loud the surround speakers were in WWZ? I wanna say that WWZ was one of the first movies that I ever heard the surrounds almost as loud as the mains at times eek.gif I feel asleep half way thourgh as usual, gotta pick it up today.
post #10388 of 16085
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Don't forget The Hobbit which is the biggest LFE disappointment yet IMO!
No, that would be Avengers!
post #10389 of 16085
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

No, that would be Avengers!
But you are not the keeper of his opinions, you cannot so boldly tell him NO, and correct his opinion. tsk tsk tsk. when will people learn tongue.gif:p
post #10390 of 16085
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

No, that would be Avengers!

Oh, not to defend Avengers, cuz it could have been so much better, but Hobbit was TERRIBLE! You would miss nothing if you turned off the subs and let your speakers run full range. eek.gif
post #10391 of 16085
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

No, that would be Avengers!

Avengers is a 5 star bass film compared to The Hobbit! Both are very much lacking in the extension department, but I personally found The Hobbit considerably more disappointing for LFE in general.
post #10392 of 16085
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

Oh, not to defend Avengers, cuz it could have been so much better, but Hobbit was TERRIBLE! You would miss nothing if you turned off the subs and let your speakers run full range. eek.gif

Exactly, and I am not trying to defend Avengers either, but there was at least good reason to leave your subs on for that film even if it was 30hz and above.........The Hobbit puts subs to sleep!
post #10393 of 16085
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post


That's the movie and the quote I am asking about references that movie and that post. Post 10363. If it was released yesterday then I apologize. The date I had written down said it was being released next week.

 

IM3 was released last month on the other side of our planet. Some ppl I know bought the Steelbook from across the pond and have already gotten their copy.

post #10394 of 16085
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

Did anyone else notice how loud the surround speakers were in WWZ? I wanna say that WWZ was one of the first movies that I ever heard the surrounds almost as loud as the mains at times eek.gif I feel asleep half way thourgh as usual, gotta pick it up today.



It's something how we all hear things different smile.gif I thought the surround was weak. STID had a pretty wicked surround mix.
post #10395 of 16085
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Originally Posted by hometheatergeek View Post

IM3 was released last month on the other side of our planet. Some ppl I know bought the Steelbook from across the pond and have already gotten their copy.
Got you. I sometimes forget that theatrical releases AND home video releases are different dates for different regions. Sorry redface.gif.
post #10396 of 16085
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Exactly, and I am not trying to defend Avengers either, but there was at least good reason to leave your subs on for that film even if it was 30hz and above.........The Hobbit puts subs to sleep!

LOL! So who's gonna check the EE of the "Hobbit" to see if the sleeper has awakened biggrin.gif
post #10397 of 16085
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

It's something how we all hear things different smile.gif I thought the surround was weak. STID had a pretty wicked surround mix.
One thing is that everybody has a different avr's, speakers, subs and amps etc... I am pretty positive that has allot do with most of the opinions on these movies.
post #10398 of 16085
I plan on watching this (STID) tonight for the first time at home. I did see it in he theater. I will be interested into hearing what it sounds like on my system that just had a 80.3 installed and was fully calibrated this past weekend.
post #10399 of 16085
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

One thing is that everybody has a different avr's, speakers, subs and amps etc... I am pretty positive that has allot do with most of the opinions on these movies.



Agreed.
post #10400 of 16085
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

LOL! So who's gonna check the EE of the "Hobbit" to see if the sleeper has awakened biggrin.gif

Not me. That movie is bloated to hell as it is. tongue.gif I have zero interest in the EE as far as a purchase even if they did fix the low end. I am curious to see if the EE is any different in this area though which is doubtful I would think, but stranger things have happened.
Edited by Toe - 9/18/13 at 6:08pm
post #10401 of 16085
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

Did anyone else notice how loud the surround speakers were in WWZ? I wanna say that WWZ was one of the first movies that I ever heard the surrounds almost as loud as the mains at times eek.gif I feel asleep half way thourgh as usual, gotta pick it up today.

Yes, I thought the surround activity was fairly intense at times. The bass is what really surprised me the most though. A few scenes had some very intense bass, mostly the grenade scene in Jerusalem.
post #10402 of 16085
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Originally Posted by gtpsuper24 View Post

Yes, I thought the surround activity was fairly intense at times. The bass is what really surprised me the most though. A few scenes had some very intense bass, mostly the grenade scene in Jerusalem.

Not only did this movie stink, it also was one of the all around worst sound tracks I have ever experienced on my system! What LFE? The only thing good about it was the width of the sound stage. horrible! It sounded like the the whole track was compressed. Not allot of volume either, very anemic.
post #10403 of 16085
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Originally Posted by HeffeMusic View Post

Not only did this movie stink, it also was one of the all around worst sound tracks I have ever experienced on my system! What LFE? The only thing good about it was the width of the sound stage. horrible! It sounded like the the whole track was compressed. Not allot of volume either, very anemic.

You have to turn your AVR on...........tongue.gif
post #10404 of 16085
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Originally Posted by Cowboys View Post

Very bad rating movie though
http://m.imdb.com/title/tt2740710/

LOL. Except for the very obvious but few exceptions, this thread pretty much lists the worst movies of the past 20 years. When I first read the rankings I somewhat consistently correlated that movies with better bass ratings equate to worse actual movie ratings. The worst movies seem to compensate by adding nice base tracks to get the young crowd to bite. So this is no thread to refer to if you want to find a good movie that you will actually watch and enjoy! This is a youthful boomy base test content ranking thread. wink.gif
post #10405 of 16085
TiH? WotW? FotP? HttyD? LotR? Looper? Cloverfield?
post #10406 of 16085
If you don't like it don't post in it. A few of the movies listed won best picture LOL!
post #10407 of 16085
Really, for me and I'm assuming others half the experience is the audio, and if it's good I can get past a so so plot.
post #10408 of 16085
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Originally Posted by edlittle View Post

TiH? WotW? FotP? HttyD? LotR? Looper? Cloverfield?
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In my first sentence I did acknowledge there a few exceptions in this list that are generally reviewed and rated as good movies by the world population on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes etc. Surprisingly I find those ratings consistently hold true to my own opinion. Bad movies are just bad movies and most people come to general agreement on that.

BTW, WOTW is not generally accepted as a great movie, 6.5 rating on IMDB. Neither is FOTP, Farce of the Penguins? is only rated four stars. eek.gif

I do like the list and this thread since I do own some of these Blu Rays and it is a good reference for testing new sub settings and watching for the rare new movie for which I might want to get the Blu Ray for instead of watching with compressed audio on Vudu video on demand. In my post I was replying to a reference to an extremely low IMDB movie rating for one of the movies discussed here. I am implying the thread rates bass in movies, that list is obviously not about finding "good" movies.

Perhaps my disdain and sense of humor around bad movies comes across the wrong way.
post #10409 of 16085
I see what you mean. Atlantic Rim is just a straight to DVD rip off of Pacific Rim which we are all hoping won't get a HPF.
post #10410 of 16085
Yes; your sense of humor does color your opinion of good -vs- bad movies.

That said; a thread titled "Bass in Movies" does not suggest great acting or deep plots.

And before trashing "FOTP", I must suggest that you view the original with Jimmy Stewart and Ernest Borgnine.
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