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post #10681 of 16116
A few more audio settings on my bluray player I need your help on:

Digital output: #2 bitstream uncompressed
PCM Downsampling: 1) on 2) off
Dynamic Range Control: 1) auto 2) on 3) off
Downmixing mode: 1) normal stereo 2) surround compatible
DTS NEO:6 Mode: 1) off 2) cinema 3) music

Again, my receiver supports Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. I got a 5.2 surround sound speaker system (dual subs). I watch mostly movies than music on my system.

Thanks.
post #10682 of 16116
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Originally Posted by soundmusic View Post

A few more audio settings on my bluray player I need your help on:

Digital output: #2 bitstream uncompressed
PCM Downsampling: 1) on 2) off
Dynamic Range Control: 1) auto 2) on 3) off
Downmixing mode: 1) normal stereo 2) surround compatible
DTS NEO:6 Mode: 1) off 2) cinema 3) music

Again, my receiver supports Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. I got a 5.2 surround sound speaker system (dual subs). I watch mostly movies than music on my system.

Thanks.
It's probably a good thing that you are not watching music too often, since you would have to be on some major hallucinogenics to be able to watch your music. (taking into account that watching a concert on DVD is not watching music but watching a show)tongue.gif
post #10683 of 16116
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Originally Posted by soundmusic View Post

A few more audio settings on my bluray player I need your help on:

Digital output: #2 bitstream uncompressed
PCM Downsampling: 1) on 2) off
Dynamic Range Control: 1) auto 2) on 3) off
Downmixing mode: 1) normal stereo 2) surround compatible
DTS NEO:6 Mode: 1) off 2) cinema 3) music

Again, my receiver supports Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. I got a 5.2 surround sound speaker system (dual subs). I watch mostly movies than music on my system.

Thanks.

If you are set to output in Bitstreama and are using HDMI to connect to your receiver, I don't think any of those will matter. That is just for the analog outputs and PCM IIRC.

That being said, this is how I would set them:

PCM Downsampling: 1) on 2) off
2
Dynamic Range Control: 1) auto 2) on 3) off
3
Downmixing mode: 1) normal stereo 2) surround compatible
2
DTS NEO:6 Mode: 1) off 2) cinema 3) music
User preference, but for me 1
post #10684 of 16116
What's the make and model number of your bluray player?
post #10685 of 16116
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Originally Posted by duc135 View Post

If you are set to output in Bitstreama and are using HDMI to connect to your receiver, I don't think any of those will matter. That is just for the analog outputs and PCM IIRC.
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Originally Posted by soundmusic View Post

A few more audio settings on my bluray player I need your help on:

Digital output: #2 bitstream uncompressed

Again, my receiver supports Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. I got a 5.2 surround sound speaker system (dual subs). I watch mostly movies than music on my system.

Thanks.

I think these settings only apply to digital out (SPDIF, coax/optical) and are irrelevant to HDMI output, as duc stated above smile.gif
post #10686 of 16116
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

It's probably a good thing that you are not watching music too often, since you would have to be on some major hallucinogenics to be able to watch your music. (taking into account that watching a concert on DVD is not watching music but watching a show)tongue.gif


Yeah, I have WATCHED music before, but its been many, many years. tongue.gif
post #10687 of 16116
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Originally Posted by Flageborg View Post

Thanks, I am learning by doing...and with a lot of help from you guys wink.gif

Did a new recording of WOTW today....and it looks a little bit different....


War of the Worlds - Chapter 1 - trucks passing on the dock

WOTW_ch1_66.jpg


War of the Worlds - Chapter 4 - lightning strikes

WOTW_ch4_66.jpg


MUCH better! smile.gif
post #10688 of 16116
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Originally Posted by shpitz View Post

I think these settings only apply to digital out (SPDIF, coax/optical) and are irrelevant to HDMI output, as duc stated above smile.gif

HDMI IS digital.
post #10689 of 16116
Flageborg,

A few other things to change:

1) Limit your graphs to 120Hz. There's no point in adding the other stuff, or having it go up to 240Hz in the left-hand window, as it just artificially compresses the region we actually care about and makes it look hotter/deeper than it really is.

2) Check your offset and reduce it. It's too much right now by 3-5dB.

3) By decreasing all that unused space in your SL graph windows, you can increase the size of the actual portion of the graph we care about and, thus, show greater detail/resolution on the individual effects in the content. You know - the stuff we care about. If you feel it absolutely necessary to place an image of the bluray case for each movie, just create a template and do it in some image editing program, instead of creating the problems noted above by constraining the SpecLab window artificially.

4) Or, instead of having to recalibrate your whole system every time you redo this (which seems to be the case, continually), just do it the digital way that desertdome has described. Then you have no need for calibrations, sound cards, receiver settings, etc., and the results are exactly the same every measurement. You know - apples-to-apples.
post #10690 of 16116
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

It's probably a good thing that you are not watching music too often, since you would have to be on some major hallucinogenics to be able to watch your music. (taking into account that watching a concert on DVD is not watching music but watching a show)tongue.gif
. Haha I was lazy. Didn't feel like correcting meself.
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Originally Posted by duc135 View Post

If you are set to output in Bitstreama and are using HDMI to connect to your receiver, I don't think any of those will matter. That is just for the analog outputs and PCM IIRC.

That being said, this is how I would set them:

PCM Downsampling: 1) on 2) off
2
Dynamic Range Control: 1) auto 2) on 3) off
3
Downmixing mode: 1) normal stereo 2) surround compatible
2
DTS NEO:6 Mode: 1) off 2) cinema 3) music
User preference, but for me 1

Yes I am connecting to my receiver via hdmi. I guess I'll just ignore the rest of the settings and just have the digital output set to bitstream uncompressed. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by kemiza View Post

What's the make and model number of your bluray player?
Samsung BD-D6500
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Originally Posted by shpitz View Post

I think these settings only apply to digital out (SPDIF, coax/optical) and are irrelevant to HDMI output, as duc stated above smile.gif
got it!
post #10691 of 16116
So as far as the receiver goes, since it supports DTS and Dolby, I don't have to do anything to it? The only adjustment to get DTS is done on the BR player and not the receiver?
post #10692 of 16116
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Originally Posted by soundmusic View Post

So as far as the receiver goes, since it supports DTS and Dolby, I don't have to do anything to it? The only adjustment to get DTS is done on the BR player and not the receiver?

Nope, the receiver will get the bitstream from the Blu-ray player and decode what it is given. You can change the sound processing modes to suit your preferences, but that's only an option and not a requirement. So long as the receiver gets the information and plays is correctly, you're good to go. Pop some popcorn, grab a tasty beverage, kick up your feet and enjoy.
post #10693 of 16116
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Originally Posted by duc135 View Post

Nope, the receiver will get the bitstream from the Blu-ray player and decode what it is given. You can change the sound processing modes to suit your preferences, but that's only an option and not a requirement. So long as the receiver gets the information and plays is correctly, you're good to go. Pop some popcorn, grab a tasty beverage, kick up your feet and enjoy.
I already am! Thanks!
post #10694 of 16116
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

MUCH better! smile.gif

Thank you, but how about this version?
I more often analyze music/sound in full bandwidth and that is why I am using split screens, but in this Department of LFE it's better to keep it simple?

War of the Worlds - Chapter 1 - trucks passing

WOTW_ch1_54.jpg


War of the Worlds - Chapter 4 - lightning strikes

WOTW_ch4_54.jpg
Edited by Flageborg - 9/27/13 at 4:18am
post #10695 of 16116
Both of those look good.

I kind of liked your unique approach with your usual style graphs. I don't see why not keep doing that as long as you're not clipping the input. Though I guess the argument is that these last ones show more detail where would need to see it so I guess that's better overall.

Anyway... Much improved!
post #10696 of 16116
I tricked the wife into letting me rent WWZ.

Me: "Hey babe, that new Brad Pitt movie came out recently Bluray, you want to check it out?"

Her: "Yeah, sure."

I don't even think she knows it's a zombie movie. All she heard was Brad Pitt...

Hey, at least it worked out in my favor...lol. Normally every movie I suggest is followed up by, "Why do you want to watch that? Because it has a lot of basssss?"
post #10697 of 16116
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

I tricked the wife into letting me rent WWZ.

Me: "Hey babe, that new Brad Pitt movie came out recently Bluray, you want to check it out?"

Her: "Yeah, sure."

I don't even think she knows it's a zombie movie. All she heard was Brad Pitt...

Hey, at least it worked out in my favor...lol. Normally every movie I suggest is followed up by, "Why do you want to watch that? Because it has a lot of basssss?"

Well played my friend, very well played............wink.gif
post #10698 of 16116
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

I tricked the wife into letting me rent WWZ.

Me: "Hey babe, that new Brad Pitt movie came out recently Bluray, you want to check it out?"

Her: "Yeah, sure."

I don't even think she knows it's a zombie movie. All she heard was Brad Pitt...

Hey, at least it worked out in my favor...lol. Normally every movie I suggest is followed up by, "Why do you want to watch that? Because it has a lot of basssss?"

Who doesn't like a zombie flick. Lol. The uncaring nature of them in this film is pretty cool ( you'll know what I mean when you watch it).
post #10699 of 16116
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

Normally every movie I suggest is followed up by, "Why do you want to watch that? Because it has a lot of basssss?"

My old lady says something similar, except, there's not a "b" in the last word.
post #10700 of 16116
Flageborg:

Still way, way too hot and misrepresenting the content. Look at the muddiness of yours compared to the separation of mine. Reduce your offset by at least 5dB, and change your waterfall scroll interval to 64ms. That should help make them clearer and more separated.

Also, you're seeing severe JPEG compression artifacts. Consider taking screenshots in bitmap and converting to PNG, or just use Window's simple little "Snipping tool" to capture graphs without all the app window garbage, and save as PNG.

Otherwise, looks good.
post #10701 of 16116
Quote:
Originally Posted by popalock View Post

I tricked the wife into letting me rent WWZ.

Me: "Hey babe, that new Brad Pitt movie came out recently Bluray, you want to check it out?"

Her: "Yeah, sure."

I don't even think she knows it's a zombie movie. All she heard was Brad Pitt...

Hey, at least it worked out in my favor...lol. Normally every movie I suggest is followed up by, "Why do you want to watch that? Because it has a lot of basssss?"
My wife was the same. She had no idea it was a zombie movie until the movie started. LOL....
post #10702 of 16116
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

I tricked the wife into letting me rent WWZ.

Me: "Hey babe, that new Brad Pitt movie came out recently Bluray, you want to check it out?"

Her: "Yeah, sure."

I don't even think she knows it's a zombie movie. All she heard was Brad Pitt...

Hey, at least it worked out in my favor...lol. Normally every movie I suggest is followed up by, "Why do you want to watch that? Because it has a lot of basssss?"
I'm glad my wife likes zombie movies!
post #10703 of 16116
I watched Oblivion last night. Does that movie sound harsh on the top end or is that my ears?
post #10704 of 16116
I thought it sounded amazeballs. Didn't notice any harshness.
post #10705 of 16116
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Originally Posted by wingnut4772 View Post

I thought it sounded amazeballs. Didn't notice any harshness.

+1 ^^^^^^ I loved the sound on this - was perfect for my set up.
post #10706 of 16116
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Originally Posted by landshark1 View Post

My wife was the same. She had no idea it was a zombie movie until the movie started. LOL....

I also had no idea until it started. Uh crap! a zombie movie rolleyes.gif
post #10707 of 16116
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Originally Posted by kemiza View Post

I watched Oblivion last night. Does that movie sound harsh on the top end or is that my ears?

Oblivion was one of the most well balanced BR I have herd to date. So far its been the only one I have watched 2 times or more. I normally do not get big into movies, so if I watch it more then once, it is really good.
post #10708 of 16116
Hmmm. Just curious what you guys thought. My speakers have horns and they're very revealing. If a soundtrack sounds good you'll know it and if it sounds bad you'll know it.
post #10709 of 16116
I went back and gave it some gas(turned the volume up higher than usual). I gained a little more detail and alot more bass!
post #10710 of 16116
I thought Oblivion was one of the best overall audio tracks on blu ray. It was like a breath of fresh air coming off of STID! I still enjoyed ID audio warts and all, but putting a track like Oblivion on right after puts things into perspective since Oblivion is such a refined and well balanced overall audio experience to my ears.
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