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post #11191 of 16092
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

Yes, but that is much better than Avengers. I can still enjoy a movie with 20hz bass although I prefer 3 hz! The level of PR is 5 stars and to 19hz it won't be that bad. If this had 3 star levels and 20hz extension it would be much worse. Now 5 star level and extension is what we want all the time!

Yup. I can still enjoy a movie as long as we at least get some decent 20hz stuff. Preferably moreso down to 15hz or so .... but yeah.... these arbitrary cutoff points are lame.

Professional mixing studios really need to improve their system's capability for bass extension. It's just as easy said and done. What's a couple extra grand for a worthy upgrade? I bet these places spend as much on lunch. tongue.gif
post #11192 of 16092
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

That is just ONE criteria for a lot of us and certainly does not automatically make or break the LFE experience as a whole for me. Some filtered tracks harm the overall experience more than others. Something like The Hobbit is a train wreck, but something like Transf 3 (again, just my opinion) is still a killer overall experience LFE and otherwise (even if it is not quite as good as it could be with better extension).

Having said that, I thought PR was a flat out BLAST in the low end department. Sure, not the deepest digger which would have made it that much better, but what a powerhouse! I thought it supported the on screen action very well and was just a flat out LOUD and potent bass fest which again really drove the on screen action home VERY well IMO. This is just an all out powerhouse bass assault which will be either a good or bad thing depending on the listener. I loved it considering the film!

I watched at -1 from ref and run my subs hot by ~8-10db below ~50hz (flat up to that point) and this bass track was a riot!

Throw in reference PQ and this was a great blind buy for me. Looking forward to the 3d version next watch which will be in the next day or so. FUN!

Agreed - to a certain extent. smile.gif

PR was a BLAST! But, it really needed to dig deeper to match the freaking HUGE things going on screen. Normally, it might have bugged me but the PQ was so mesmerizing, and the sheer scope ,and scale of the action, I quickly forgot that it wasn't WOTW awesomness for LFE - like it should have been. tongue.gif

I can't even imagine what it would have been like to sit through this if the CONSTANT BARRAGE of bass would have been Randy Thom level? biggrin.gif

Excellent blind buy!
Edited by GoCaboNow - 10/16/13 at 12:10pm
post #11193 of 16092
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

Just for reference can someone run a side by side graph of Cloverfield vs Pacific Rim? I would like to see the difference in extension and level, pretty please?
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

That would be interesting to see. I would have to think Cloverfield has more extension, but level would be a closer match. PR certainly has more run time with bass moments as this thing is packed to the gills.


Man, everytime I watch the cloverfield clips on the demo disks...I just shake my head and smile. Talk about awesome. I'll prob end up buying PR just to do it. Even though a constant onslaught of non-stop bass doesn't sound extremely appealing...to my wife.

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post #11194 of 16092
If I remember correctly, Cloverfield extended down to 11 Hz, and at the time d-b.com measured it, was the loudest film they'd seen. The filter in place was pretty shallow, too. F-ing love that movie for bass, especially the scene as they're running to the helicopters!
post #11195 of 16092
My wife is out of town. Sounds extremely pleasing to me......and on that note I'm out the door to go pick it up at Walmart smile.gif
post #11196 of 16092
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

Agreed - to a certain extent. smile.gif

PR was a BLAST! But, it really needed to dig deeper to match the freaking HUGE things going on screen. Normally, it might have bugged me but the PQ was so mesmerizing, and the sheer scope ,and scale of the action, I quickly forgot that it wasn't WOTW awesomness for LFE - like it should have been. tongue.gif

I can't even imagine what it would have been like to sit through this if the CONSTANT BARARGE of bass would have been Randy Thom level? biggrin.gif

Excellent blind buy!

Agreed Cabo. I loved it, but a bit more extension would have pushed it right off the cliff!
post #11197 of 16092
Watched Pacific Rim last night on Vudu (HDX) and the bass was abundant but not a lot of extension. Even with my budget sub I could tell it was limited.
post #11198 of 16092
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

Just for reference can someone run a side by side graph of Cloverfield vs Pacific Rim? I would like to see the difference in extension and level, pretty please?

 

Cloverfield (2008)

 

 

 

 

Pacific Rim (2013)

 

post #11199 of 16092
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Originally Posted by Mrkazador View Post

Cloverfield (2008)






Pacific Rim (2013)



Nice man. You can see the dynamic bass peaks from Cloverfield as opposed to PR. Of course im relativly new to these graphs so I could be wrong. Also PR drops off like a rock after bout 22hz. I need to get Cloverfield on BD as ive yet to watch it since I got my second VTF 2MK4.
post #11200 of 16092
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Originally Posted by bao01 View Post

Does anyone have a graph of "The Town" BD - Charlestown bank robbers with Ben Affleck - where the Boston police throw a stun grenade into basement of Red Sox stadium?
It seems like it was very low (20 Hz) and powerful.

thanks

 

The Town (2010)

 

 

 

 

Grenade scene (1:41:25)

 

post #11201 of 16092
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Look what showed up in the mail today! Good new dual Submersive testers! Gotta get my room figured out first though.


That grenade scene in WWZ is "The Bomb" literally, and figuratively lol. I blasted that scene last night for a friend of mine, I think my pant legs were moving.
post #11202 of 16092
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

Just for reference can someone run a side by side graph of Cloverfield vs Pacific Rim? I would like to see the difference in extension and level, pretty please?

MK, you've convinced me to finally give this stuff a shot. Here's Cloverfield and Pacific Rim both HD Audio examined untouched and the exact same way, back to back:








It looks to me like Cloverfield has the edge in overall level and extension.
post #11203 of 16092
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Originally Posted by Mrkazador View Post

The Town (2010)






Grenade scene (1:41:25)



thanks !!

So it seems to me, looking at the graphs, to be pretty good extension down to 20 Hz.
Or is it just "average" - nothing special?
post #11204 of 16092
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Originally Posted by bao01 View Post


thanks !!

So it seems to me, looking at the graphs, to be pretty good extension down to 20 Hz.
Or is it just "average" - nothing special?

 

It does go down to 20hz but the average is low so its only a scene or two. Which is probably the grenade scene, nothing special...

post #11205 of 16092
Dont be fooled by the Pacific Rim PvA graph. It wants you to believe this movie has good extension to 20hz this is not the case. This movie barely goes below 30hz.

Waterfalls tell the true story

PR robot monster fight

PR nuke


Cloverfield




If someone can find the loud 20hz in Pacific Rim plz post a waterfall and timestamp I looked but i could not find it.
post #11206 of 16092
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Originally Posted by Mrkazador View Post

The Town (2010)






Grenade scene (1:41:25)


Thanks! That looks very nice. I think I may need to re-visit that film.
post #11207 of 16092
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Originally Posted by nfraso View Post

MK, you've convinced me to finally give this stuff a shot. Here's Cloverfield and Pacific Rim both HD Audio examined untouched and the exact same way, back to back:








It looks to me like Cloverfield has the edge in overall level and extension.

Yes this is what one can compare. PR will not feel like Cloverfield did in both extension and level. This lets people know what to expect as we all know Cloverfield.
post #11208 of 16092
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Originally Posted by Mrkazador View Post

It does go down to 20hz but the average is low so its only a scene or two. Which is probably the grenade scene, nothing special...

ok - very helpful - thanks again
post #11209 of 16092
I've got OHF on the way and should be here Friday. I'm quite anxious to try it out. smile.gif
post #11210 of 16092
I just ordered Cloverfield from Amazon. Can't wait to get it.
post #11211 of 16092
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Originally Posted by Reddig View Post

I just ordered Cloverfield from Amazon. Can't wait to get it.

It is definitely worth the buy for the bass and the movie.



Talk about a difference in graphs between Cloverfield and Pacific Rim!
post #11212 of 16092
1) Ah, Cloverfield. Thing is, you can keep going back to it.

2) Am I the only one who finds the line graph type much harder to interpret than the waterfall type?
post #11213 of 16092
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post

2) Am I the only one who finds the line graph type much harder to interpret than the waterfall type?

 

Line graphs are of the entire movie so its a bit tough to figure how many scenes have good bass. You could use the average to figure how much lfe a movie has by comparing it with other known movies. It just takes too much time to do a waterfall graph. Doing a line graph will probably take me about 15mins to do while a waterfall graph with photos, about 1hr...

post #11214 of 16092
Speaking of difference in graphs. How about these two similar films. One a ULF monster, the other...





post #11215 of 16092
Oh, wow. Well of course, I'm grateful for the work you do, for free no less! I really just wondered if there's some super obvious thing I'm missing, trying to make sense of it. Keep on keepin' on smile.gif
post #11216 of 16092
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Originally Posted by nfraso View Post

Speaking of difference in graphs. How about these two similar films. One a ULF monster, the other...

See now that's a contrast right there
post #11217 of 16092
Now that is a drastic difference, wow!

I have seen OHF once but I think I need to revisit it!
post #11218 of 16092
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Originally Posted by Mrkazador View Post

Cloverfield (2008)






Pacific Rim (2013)


Man, Cloverfield had got to be the worst movie I have ever seen! I almost threw up at the end because of all the stupid jerky motion it has. And worst yet, the story was so incredibly dumb. In fact, I completely forgot what that movie was about. I wouldn't care if the movie has extremely low bass. If the story is terrible, then it's just not worth watching or listening to.

And to compare Cloverfield to Pacific Rim is like comparing crap to quality. Absolutely no comparison at all!
post #11219 of 16092
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Originally Posted by BornSlippyZ View Post

Now that is a drastic difference, wow!

I have seen OHF once but I think I need to revisit it!

Right!!! Gigantic difference. I have got to see OHF. I may just blind buy I love Morgan F.
post #11220 of 16092
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Originally Posted by soundmusic View Post

Man, Cloverfield had got to be the worst movie I have ever seen! I almost threw up at the end because of all the stupid jerky motion it has. And worst yet, the story was so incredibly dumb. In fact, I completely forgot what that movie was about. I wouldn't care if the movie has extremely low bass. If the story is terrible, then it's just not worth watching or listening to.

And to compare Cloverfield to Pacific Rim is like comparing crap to quality. Absolutely no comparison at all!

Thats a pretty subjective opinion but they are like B-Holes lol: we all have them.
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