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post #11221 of 16105
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Originally Posted by Reddig View Post

Thats a pretty subjective opinion but they are like B-Holes lol: we all have them.
yep it's 100% my opinion of course.
post #11222 of 16105
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Originally Posted by nfraso View Post

Speaking of difference in graphs. How about these two similar films. One a ULF monster, the other...






Thanks.. Was waiting on a graph of White House Down.. It was missing so much with lots of opportunity. Every time something big happened I was thinking to myself "here it is this will be the big one" then it was a complete let down.
post #11223 of 16105
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Originally Posted by soundmusic View Post

Man, Cloverfield had got to be the worst movie I have ever seen! I almost threw up at the end because of all the stupid jerky motion it has. And worst yet, the story was so incredibly dumb. In fact, I completely forgot what that movie was about. I wouldn't care if the movie has extremely low bass. If the story is terrible, then it's just not worth watching or listening to.

And to compare Cloverfield to Pacific Rim is like comparing crap to quality. Absolutely no comparison at all!


Both are "experience" movies IMO and story definitely takes a back seat to the A/V spectacle. I would not watch either one more than once if all I had was a small flat panel and the tv speakers to go along with it. Put both movies on a nice HT setup though and it's a different ballgame. cool.gif Both are kick ass HT experiences. I have watched Cloverfield countless times in my HT as it is one of my favorite experiences down there not only for bass, but just as a whole (although the low end is certainly the highlight). I know PR will get great repeat value in my HT as well, plus it sounds like the 3d is great from various reports which is just one more reason to take it for a drive. cool.gif
post #11224 of 16105
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Originally Posted by Reddig View Post

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Originally Posted by soundmusic View Post

Man, Cloverfield had got to be the worst movie I have ever seen! I almost threw up at the end because of all the stupid jerky motion it has. And worst yet, the story was so incredibly dumb. In fact, I completely forgot what that movie was about. I wouldn't care if the movie has extremely low bass. If the story is terrible, then it's just not worth watching or listening to.

And to compare Cloverfield to Pacific Rim is like comparing crap to quality. Absolutely no comparison at all!

Thats a pretty subjective opinion but they are like B-Holes lol: we all have them.

soundmusic is just trolling. Here are some of his other posts:

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Originally Posted by soundmusic View Post

Forget WOTW, XMen First Class, Pacific Rim, Star Wars, Oblivion, etc. My Little Pony man! That movie has some awesome subwoofer treat! Check it out! You won't be disappointed!

and

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Originally Posted by soundmusic View Post

My Little Pony! Blow PR away!

The guy is trolling, obviously. I wouldn't doubt that this is a duplicate trolling account for the person who said that Nanny McPhee was amazingly the best bass movie of all time:

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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

I hate to tell everyone this but I just found a movie that is better than all the 5 Star movies with BASS.

We have a new winner with a new world record of 6 Stars for BASS:





I got this movie for my little girl and I was shocked at the low BASS from this movie. I was very surprise that a movie for kids can sound so good!

Watch this movie at reference volume and you are in for a surprise. Even if you don't have kids, give it a rental.
post #11225 of 16105
Weird way to get attention I suppose, didn't think of him as a troll but rather as a crackpot.
post #11226 of 16105
I don't care who you are , that's funny right there.
post #11227 of 16105
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Originally Posted by wingnut4772 View Post

I don't care who you are , that's funny right there.


FINALLY!

Someone thought my joke was funny. LOL!

At the time I posted that funny movie, people within this thread were arguing about something that was not related to this thread. So I wanted to break the tension by putting up a funny movie Nanny McPhee. However, this movie may not have the best BASS, there are some nice bass in the movie.

About the user soundmusic, I have no idea who it is and I think he/she is trying to be funny like me. I thought it was pretty silly myself when I saw My Little Pony with massive BASS. I was laughing so hard that my stomach was hurting.

Not everything you see is Trolling. Relax, some people on here are just having a good time.
post #11228 of 16105
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

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Originally Posted by wingnut4772 View Post

I don't care who you are , that's funny right there.


FINALLY!

Someone thought my joke was funny. LOL!

At the time I posted that funny movie, people within this thread were arguing about something that was not related to this thread. So I wanted to break the tension by putting up a funny movie Nanny McPhee. However, this movie may not have the best BASS, there are some nice bass in the movie.

About the user soundmusic, I have no idea who it is and I think he/she is trying to be funny like me. I thought it was pretty silly myself when I saw My Little Pony with massive BASS. I was laughing so hard that my stomach was hurting.

Not everything you see is Trolling. Relax, some people on here are just having a good time.

Fair enough. smile.gif You had a good time at my expense. wink.gif And, apparently some others, too. I think a few people actually bought/rented that movie because of your post. I almost did, just to measure it.
post #11229 of 16105
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

soundmusic is just trolling. Here are some of his other posts:
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The guy is trolling, obviously. I wouldn't doubt that this is a duplicate trolling account for the person who said that Nanny McPhee was amazingly the best bass movie of all time:

Thanks nube. LOL from the looks of it I think your right.
post #11230 of 16105
had me going, I researched and graphed Nanny Mcphee found nothing, I was also looking for a My Little Pony movie, couldnt find one luckily.
I am on the more gullible side though smile.gif
post #11231 of 16105
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Originally Posted by spidey.joe80 View Post

had me going, I researched and graphed Nanny Mcphee found nothing, I was also looking for a My Little Pony movie, couldnt find one luckily.
I am on the more gullible side though smile.gif

LOL nice man. I actually have seen Nanny Mcphee before but it was just on a flat panel with no external speakers about 5 years ago.
post #11232 of 16105
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

Fair enough. smile.gif You had a good time at my expense. wink.gif And, apparently some others, too. I think a few people actually bought/rented that movie because of your post. I almost did, just to measure it.

You guys are killing me! lol biggrin.gif
post #11233 of 16105
Ok down to bass business, I just finished PR and initially started off listening to the DTS MA 5.1 track and yes the bass and sound as a whole lacked distinction and was just loud to the point of almost being unenjoyably as this made it difficult to find a good playback level. Thanks to Nube for posting on this, now here's what I found interesting I decided to switch to the DTS MA 7.1 soundtrack even though I run 5.1, well the result was greater separation and panning of effects and a perceived lower playback level which allowed playback at Master volume reference level in addition to this I was able to hear greater extension from the sub and was able to run a little hotter which gave visceral impact a more weight and greater tactile sensation. This was more akin to the Atmos I heard and allowed me to smile.

Are the graphs on PR only the DTS MA 5.1 or the 7.1 ?They are indeed different mixes with the later preserving more fidelity and dynamic range and is worthy of 3.5 to 4 stars wink.gif
post #11234 of 16105
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Ok down to bass business, I just finished PR and initially started off listening to the DTS MA 5.1 track and yes the bass and sound as a whole lacked distinction and was just loud to the point of almost being unenjoyably as this made it difficult to find a good playback level. Thanks to Nube for posting on this, now here's what I found interesting I decided to switch to the DTS MA 7.1 soundtrack even though I run 5.1, well the result was greater separation and panning of effects and a perceived lower playback level which allowed playback at Master volume reference level in addition to this I was able to hear greater extension from the sub and was able to run a little hotter which gave visceral impact a more weight and greater tactile sensation. This was more akin to the Atmos I heard and allowed me to smile.

Are the graphs on PR only the DTS MA 5.1 or the 7.1 ?They are indeed different mixes with the later preserving more fidelity and dynamic range and is worthy of 3.5 to 4 stars wink.gif

audiofan1,

The 5.1 and 7.1 lossless mixes on the PR disc are identical, with a VERY minor difference (7.1 track has 1dB more in peak levels, 0.1dB in RMS levels) that is 100% attributable to the different number of channels. This was quantitatively verified by maxmercy in his PR measurements post at Data-Bass.com, and by me as well. We both measured the Blu-ray disc, but got ours from different places.

I know my PR graphs in this thread have been for the 7.1 DTS-MA HD track, but I also did the 5.1 DTS-MA HD track. For your comparison,

here's the Pacific Rim 7.1 DTS-MA HD peak vs. average graph:



and here's the Pacific Rim 5.1 DTS-MA HD peak vs. average graph:



Any perceived differences in your viewing experience are almost definitely related to your processor's matrixing of the content from 5.1 to 7.1 when you played the 5.1 track. There really can't be any other reason for it. But, it's not like this is a big deal - it's likely everyone will see minor differences based on their processor when matrixing the content from 5.1 to 7.1
post #11235 of 16105
I went back and forth between the 5.1 and 7.1 and to my ears I could not tell a difference other than ambience and effects from the back surrounds on the 7.1
post #11236 of 16105
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Originally Posted by spidey.joe80 View Post

had me going, I researched and graphed Nanny Mcphee found nothing, I was also looking for a My Little Pony movie, couldnt find one luckily.
I am on the more gullible side though smile.gif

Seriously!

You were going to graph My Little Pony?

Man, I am about to die laughing so hard again. LOL!



Today I got a chance to watched OHF and I thought the BASS was very powerful. And I enjoy the movie as well. Had my couch trembling and shaking.

I am looking forward to watch PR this weekend. I hear this movie will hit about 20Hz, which is good enough for me since my subs can only dig down to 20Hz anyway.
Edited by mantaraydesign - 10/16/13 at 9:58pm
post #11237 of 16105
Stop with the my little pony graphs , I can't stop laughing biggrin.gif
post #11238 of 16105
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Ok down to bass business, I just finished PR and initially started off listening to the DTS MA 5.1 track and yes the bass and sound as a whole lacked distinction and was just loud to the point of almost being unenjoyably as this made it difficult to find a good playback level. Thanks to Nube for posting on this, now here's what I found interesting I decided to switch to the DTS MA 7.1 soundtrack even though I run 5.1, well the result was greater separation and panning of effects and a perceived lower playback level which allowed playback at Master volume reference level in addition to this I was able to hear greater extension from the sub and was able to run a little hotter which gave visceral impact a more weight and greater tactile sensation. This was more akin to the Atmos I heard and allowed me to smile.

Are the graphs on PR only the DTS MA 5.1 or the 7.1 ?They are indeed different mixes with the later preserving more fidelity and dynamic range and is worthy of 3.5 to 4 stars wink.gif

audiofan1,

The 5.1 and 7.1 lossless mixes on the PR disc are identical, with a VERY minor difference (7.1 track has 1dB more in peak levels, 0.1dB in RMS levels) that is 100% attributable to the different number of channels. This was quantitatively verified by maxmercy in his PR measurements post at Data-Bass.com, and by me as well. We both measured the Blu-ray disc, but got ours from different places.

I know my PR graphs in this thread have been for the 7.1 DTS-MA HD track, but I also did the 5.1 DTS-MA HD track. For your comparison,

here's the Pacific Rim 7.1 DTS-MA HD peak vs. average graph:



and here's the Pacific Rim 5.1 DTS-MA HD peak vs. average graph:



Any perceived differences in your viewing experience are almost definitely related to your processor's matrixing of the content from 5.1 to 7.1 when you played the 5.1 track. There really can't be any other reason for it. But, it's not like this is a big deal - it's likely everyone will see minor differences based on their processor when matrixing the content from 5.1 to 7.1

Curious, can your software overlay one graph onto the other?
post #11239 of 16105
how about the DVD version of PR, what sort of LFE does it have?


some blu's are cut at 20hz.
post #11240 of 16105
The list of movies in post #1, some are DTS and some are Blu-ray. So does that mean all other movies are regular DVD disc?
post #11241 of 16105
They are all Blu-Ray versions unless they mention only DTS or state DVD
post #11242 of 16105
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

They are indeed different mixes with the later preserving more fidelity and dynamic range and is worthy of 3.5 to 4 stars wink.gif

So Audiofan, now that we know your above speculation is not accurate and the mixes actually are identical, have you figured out what was making the 5.1 mix seem inferior in your setup? As Nube said, whatever post processing you were using is the most likely answer. I am now curious what post processing you used on the 5.1?
post #11243 of 16105
Just watched WWZ and ......
World War Z = Lame.
post #11244 of 16105
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

Just watched WWZ and ......
World War Z = Lame.

biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif I hate when that happens.. You’ve heard of a few good men, well how about a few good scenes? wink.gif
post #11245 of 16105
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Curious, can your software overlay one graph onto the other?

Here's nube's measurements compared:



He's right, no appreciable difference.
post #11246 of 16105
I spun the 2d blu of Pacific Rim last night and thought it had plenty of good bass....not as hard or low as Cloverfield but good. I didn't get the time stamp, but the one moment that made me raise my eyebrows was the drift memory sequence with Mako, after she ducked behind the dumpster in the alley......it wasn't that low but it was the loudest bass hit of the movie in my system. Anybody else recall that moment?
post #11247 of 16105
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

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Originally Posted by wingnut4772 View Post

I don't care who you are , that's funny right there.


FINALLY!

Someone thought my joke was funny. LOL!

At the time I posted that funny movie, people within this thread were arguing about something that was not related to this thread. So I wanted to break the tension by putting up a funny movie Nanny McPhee. However, this movie may not have the best BASS, there are some nice bass in the movie.

About the user soundmusic, I have no idea who it is and I think he/she is trying to be funny like me. I thought it was pretty silly myself when I saw My Little Pony with massive BASS. I was laughing so hard that my stomach was hurting.

Not everything you see is Trolling. Relax, some people on here are just having a good time.

lol
I thought it was great. I disagreed but didn't want to start an argument though. I think Nanny Mcphee and the big bang had better bass biggrin.gif
post #11248 of 16105
Continuing the trend of filtered ULF, Man of Steel:

post #11249 of 16105
Hi all,

Although I have been an LFE aficionado for several years, I still cannot claim to understand enough to be even remotely dangerous. Am I correct in that most decent subs have a subsonic filter to protect the woofer from damaging frequencies too low for them to handle (I used to think that if a frequency was too low, the sub would simply ignore it)? Most of the people I know have HTiB-quality audio. Is it possible that the sound mixers are applying the HPF to many films to avoid damage to HTiB subs (not exactly what I would call ”decent,” so it may not have the subsonic filter?) I just started following this thread, and have not read through everything, so please be kind…smile.gif
Edited by Vader424242 - 10/17/13 at 9:53am
post #11250 of 16105
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

They are all Blu-Ray versions unless they mention only DTS or state DVD

Hi raistline, ah didn't scroll down to see individual listing, thanks.
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