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post #11581 of 16129
Basically... Extract the audio from the bluray, DVD, rip, or whatever you got. Then run the audio through spectrum lab.
post #11582 of 16129
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Originally Posted by nfraso View Post

Well, from the creators of the most disappointing release of the year comes... a slight improvement on the most disappointing release of the year.



It's as if they said fine, you don't like the 40Hz filter? Here, have a 30Hz filter instead.

Its still a very disappointing LFE track - watched it today - overall sound track is very good just low end has no weight /slam to it - nada
I skipped the first release must have been anemic
post #11583 of 16129
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Originally Posted by nfraso View Post

Well, from the creators of the most disappointing release of the year comes... a slight improvement on the most disappointing release of the year.



It's as if they said fine, you don't like the 40Hz filter? Here, have a 30Hz filter instead.

Have you watched it?
Any noticeable overall improvement over the theatrical version?

What I can gather from the graph the average graphs seem to track fairly close the little you can see,
but on the peak graph you see it is highpassed at lower freq than theatrical.

Do you know if the entire movie is remastered with the 30Hz filter or might it just be the "extended" scenes that have the lower HPF and therefore push up the peak graph.
It would be interesting to see the average graph, if you could alter the graph axis limit to show down to -80dB or something.
Seeing as both average graphs dive below the graph at 40Hz....
post #11584 of 16129
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Originally Posted by MadHek View Post

Do you know if the entire movie is remastered with the 30Hz filter or might it just be the "extended" scenes that have the lower HPF and therefore push up the peak graph.

This is a very good point... peak levels only show that it hits those frequencies at those levels at least once. So all this proves is that some content now has more < 40Hz stuff, but it very well may be only the added scenes. So we do need to see the average line to determine if the filter was changed or removed from the whole soundtrack.
post #11585 of 16129
The Conjuring on DVD was my Halloween movie - nothing less than 4.5 stars. Very effective LFE in this movie, and outstanding audio in general. I'm close to letting it have the whole five stars.

I find it pretty cool that we now have two scary movies starring Lili Taylor with serious LFE now, the first being the Haunting 1999. This movie was a whole lot better. Lili's acting has improved in the meantime, too.
post #11586 of 16129
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Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf View Post

The Conjuring on DVD was my Halloween movie - nothing less than 4.5 stars. Very effective LFE in this movie, and outstanding audio in general. I'm close to letting it have the whole five stars.

I find it pretty cool that we now have two scary movies starring Lili Taylor with serious LFE now, the first being the Haunting 1999. This movie was a whole lot better. Lili's acting has improved in the meantime, too.
My Halloween movie was Chernobyl Diaries. Meh, seen much better, seen worse too. Bass wise I'm not even going to mention it since it was dvr'd off one of the movies channels months ago.
post #11587 of 16129
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Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf View Post

The Conjuring on DVD was my Halloween movie - nothing less than 4.5 stars. Very effective LFE in this movie, and outstanding audio in general. I'm close to letting it have the whole five stars.

I find it pretty cool that we now have two scary movies starring Lili Taylor with serious LFE now, the first being the Haunting 1999. This movie was a whole lot better. Lili's acting has improved in the meantime, too.

So far it's my 5 star movie of the year ( holds breath) as it's almost over and this bad boy had the room on lockdown and would love to see knock graphs against the beloved and "why are we still waiting for it" "please release it now" The Haunting wink.gif. You know you want to say 5stars, come on just do it biggrin.gif
post #11588 of 16129
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Originally Posted by Brad Sutliff View Post

Not quite on topic. But any suggestions for some great surround effects movies? I just upgraded my surrounds

Book of Eli
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

No doubt! Wish I could return this defective TE. mad.gif

eBay that sucker!
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Originally Posted by GPBURNS View Post

Its still a very disappointing LFE track - watched it today - overall sound track is very good just low end has no weight /slam to it - nada
I skipped the first release must have been anemic

Someday we will be able to, personally, ripp the soundtrack and add bass through software then burn back onto a blu ray...
post #11589 of 16129
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

You know you want to say 5stars, come on just do it biggrin.gif

Nah... it's not a five star. It doesn't have that over the top wall to wall LFE I want to hear from the fives. It has the extension, it sounds nice and clean, but it's not constantly pounding on you for two hours.

The scene where all the light gets sucked out of the stairway in particular was a lot of fun. Adds a lot of atmosphere to a movie like this when there's so much LFE that the horns get the drop ceiling flapping up and down. But in this movie, scenes like that are once in a while, rather than all the time. I kind of prefer it that way wink.gif
post #11590 of 16129
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

I want to chronicle all the best & most well-known bass sweeps in movies. I mean real bass sweeps, not just big bass moments or changes in frequency - sweeps are recognizable by their distinctive sound & shape in a spectrograph.

Here is the first batch, with links to the overall measurements of each movie:

Transformers - Ironhide Flip (1:56:01 - 1:56:15)



War of the Worlds - Pods Emerge (0:24:56 - 0:25:00)



Oblivion - Rappelling Rope Breaks (0:19:00 - 0:19:13)



World War Z - First Grenade (1:05:30 - 1:05:35)



Tron:Legacy - Entering The Grid (0:23:07 - 0:23.17)



The Great Gatsby - Drunken Harlem Debauchery (0:21:30 - 0:22:30)



The Man with the Iron Fists - Beginning (00:00:06 - 00:00:21)



Transformers 2 - Revenge of the Fallen - Warehouse Firefight (before OP dies) (0:58:35 - 0:58:44)



Monsters, Inc - Boo's Laugh (0:30:34 - 0:30:40)



The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Sauron is Defeated (0:04:10 - 0:04:20)



Live Free or Die Hard - Tunnel Chase - (0:42:45 - 0:42:53)



Pulse - Server Room (1:13:04 - 1:14:20)



The Incredible Hulk - Sonic Cannons (0:54:50 - 0:54:57)



Oz the Great and Powerful - Evanora midairs Glinda (1:40:38 - 1:40:45)



I can't remember them all. If you want to see others, reply with the exact timestamp & movie name, and I'll add them to this post as time goes on.

Updated with an Oz sweep.

Bunga99,

I looked at all three sweeps noted in detail, and it looks like they're all the exact same effect, just with different levels.

Gonna try to hammer out that Hunger Games sweep and some of the others that have been mentioned. I think I'll keep it to one sweep per movie - the best or most memorable one.
post #11591 of 16129
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Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf View Post

Nah... it's not a five star. It doesn't have that over the top wall to wall LFE I want to hear from the fives. It has the extension, it sounds nice and clean, but it's not constantly pounding on you for two hours.

The scene where all the light gets sucked out of the stairway in particular was a lot of fun. Adds a lot of atmosphere to a movie like this when there's so much LFE that the horns get the drop ceiling flapping up and down. But in this movie, scenes like that are once in a while, rather than all the time. I kind of prefer it that way wink.gif

I generally agree with you on Conjuring. I have absolutely no complaints about the LFE, but overall it is a 4 star at best in my book mainly for reasons you mention. I thought the track overall was fantastic. 4.5-5 tracks need to give me a more consistent pounding and The Conjuring bass moments are here and there (appropriately though as the low end supports the film beautifully).
post #11592 of 16129
Also, weren't graphs done for Conjuring showing very little ULF? If that's the case, no way does it rise to the level of a 5. Probably shouldn't be 4.5 stars, either. And this is coming from someone who very much enjoyed the bass track on this movie.
post #11593 of 16129
When someone says a movie is 5 stars you have to ask yourself... Is this as good as war of the worlds or the incredible hulk? I would say conjuring is a good 4 stars.
post #11594 of 16129
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

Also, weren't graphs done for Conjuring showing very little ULF? If that's the case, no way does it rise to the level of a 5. Probably shouldn't be 4.5 stars, either. And this is coming from someone who very much enjoyed the bass track on this movie.

Actually they showed a decent amount of ULF in places. I could tell the horns were getting to the bottom of their operating range (14-15Hz) more than once. But it wasn't long term or all that frequent, which is why I'm not voting five.

I'm sticking to 4.5 on the Conjuring. It had just enough in there to do it I think.
post #11595 of 16129
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

I generally agree with you on Conjuring. I have absolutely no complaints about the LFE, but overall it is a 4 star at best in my book mainly for reasons you mention. I thought the track overall was fantastic. 4.5-5 tracks need to give me a more consistent pounding and The Conjuring bass moments are here and there (appropriately though as the low end supports the film beautifully).
I'll probably be accused of heresy here but if we judged all movies using that criteria, then WotW would probably only rate as a 4 to 4.5 flick. Yeah, it surely has the ULF but doesn't deliver a "consistent pounding".

Just sayin......
Edited by Torqdog - 11/1/13 at 7:10pm
post #11596 of 16129
I saw someone in this thread mention the Hunger Games scene, in the beginning, where the reaping is taking place. The part where they pick who will participate in the Hunger Games.

Someone said the bass during that scene was amazing, so I tired to play it today, and I didn't hear anything. My subs were moving, but there was no audible sound. I guess this must be a really low frequency that my sub cannot produce. I am using a BIC F12, and two Onkyo SKW204s.

What kind of equipment do I need to be able to hear the LFE in those movies that go so low?
post #11597 of 16129
Multiple sealed 18s. Another option is a large low tuned sub.
post #11598 of 16129
Just watched IM3...I thought it was pretty good! A little bit of LFE but the bass was pretty dynamic overall just not alot of low stuff. I would give it 3.75 star lol.
post #11599 of 16129
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Originally Posted by Brad Sutliff View Post

Not quite on topic. But any suggestions for some great surround effects movies? I just upgraded my surrounds
Paranorman
post #11600 of 16129
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Originally Posted by Mrkazador View Post

When someone says a movie is 5 stars you have to ask yourself... Is this as good as war of the worlds or the incredible hulk? I would say conjuring is a good 4 stars.

Yea I just watched the final fight scene on the demo disc and damn the bass is freakin insane! It gets physical with you as Olivia Newton John would say. Well depending on what kind of subs you have
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

I'll probably be accused of heresy here but if we judged all movies using that criteria, then WotW would probably only rate as a 4 to 4.5 flick. Yeah, it surely has the ULF but doesn't deliver a "consistent pounding".

Just sayin......

That was my exact thought but with Looper. Here and there.
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Originally Posted by hpman247 View Post

I saw someone in this thread mention the Hunger Games scene, in the beginning, where the reaping is taking place. The part where they pick who will participate in the Hunger Games.

Someone said the bass during that scene was amazing, so I tired to play it today, and I didn't hear anything. My subs were moving, but there was no audible sound. I guess this must be a really low frequency that my sub cannot produce. I am using a BIC F12, and two Onkyo SKW204s.

What kind of equipment do I need to be able to hear the LFE in those movies that go so low?

Or a couple submersives. In basic terms you need high quality high excursion drivers in sealed boxes with lots of amp power and a proper tuned dsp. This is offered in a plug and play package from the likes of JTR and Seaton but it costs money
post #11601 of 16129
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post


Or a couple submersives. In basic terms you need high quality high excursion drivers in sealed boxes with lots of amp power and a proper tuned dsp. This is offered in a plug and play package from the likes of JTR and Seaton but it costs money

Thanks. I'm pretty happy with what I have right now, but I can see upgrades in my future for sure.

I watched Live Free of Die Hard tonight. It was after midnight when I started it, and I am SHOCKED I didn't get a noise complaint lol. I have houses all around me, but none are closer than 40 feet. I don't know how far the bass travels, but I couldn't even turn it up on my Onkyo 705 past -14. And in some of the high intensity LFE scenes, I actually turned it down, just slightly. Had it not been passed midnight, I wouldn't have touched the dial.

That movie is for sure 5 Stars in terms of LFE. I still think Dark Knight Rises should be 5-star too. I love the LFE in that movie!!! It's present even in dialog! Not just action scenes.
post #11602 of 16129
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

I'll probably be accused of heresy here but if we judged all movies using that criteria, then WotW would probably only rate as a 4 to 4.5 flick. Yeah, it surely has the ULF but doesn't deliver a "consistent pounding".

Just sayin......

You can judge however you want. I certainly don't expect anyone to agree with how I rate a bass track.
post #11603 of 16129

Valkyrie (2008)

 

post #11604 of 16129
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Originally Posted by hpman247 View Post

I saw someone in this thread mention the Hunger Games scene, in the beginning, where the reaping is taking place. The part where they pick who will participate in the Hunger Games.

Someone said the bass during that scene was amazing, so I tired to play it today, and I didn't hear anything. My subs were moving, but there was no audible sound. I guess this must be a really low frequency that my sub cannot produce. I am using a BIC F12, and two Onkyo SKW204s.

What kind of equipment do I need to be able to hear the LFE in those movies that go so low?

A Power Sound Audio Triax or two will do the trick.
post #11605 of 16129
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Originally Posted by raynist View Post

A Power Sound Audio Triax or two will do the trick.

Wow, 4,000 RMS? Can you even plug something like that into a regular outlet?
post #11606 of 16129
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Originally Posted by hpman247 View Post

Wow, 4,000 RMS? Can you even plug something like that into a regular outlet?
music power isn't a flat high current draw like tools and equipment. especially for amps for bass use.

it's only around 1/8-1/4 power compared to flat current draw. so yeah, you could plug it to a regular outlet.
post #11607 of 16129
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Originally Posted by paskal9 View Post

music power isn't a flat high current draw like tools and equipment. especially for amps for bass use.

it's only around 1/8-1/4 power compared to flat current draw. so yeah, you could plug it to a regular outlet.

In fact I have two plugged into a regular outlet, soon to be 3 on the same circuit. Even watching movies at -10 I haven't had a problem.
Edited by raynist - 11/2/13 at 9:44am
post #11608 of 16129
re: sweeps, has anyone graphed the sweep in Art of Flight towards the beginning, when the camera pans left to right as the guy does a jump off the ramp?
post #11609 of 16129
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Originally Posted by hpman247 View Post

Wow, 4,000 RMS? Can you even plug something like that into a regular outlet?

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Originally Posted by paskal9 View Post

music power isn't a flat high current draw like tools and equipment. especially for amps for bass use.

it's only around 1/8-1/4 power compared to flat current draw. so yeah, you could plug it to a regular outlet.

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Originally Posted by raynist View Post

In fact I have two plugged into a regular outlet, soon to be 3 on the same circuit. Even watching movies at -10 I haven't had a problem.

Yea Speaker Power amps used in JTR, Seaton and PSA are VERY efficient. I have two Submersives in a small room on a 15amp circuit. Listen prob -12 to -14. I did hit 109db at 7 hz in a REW 5-300hz and that didn't trip the breaker. That's with 8 db room gain though. But point said is I won't ever use the full capacity of these nor will Triax x3!!!!
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