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post #14341 of 16113
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Originally Posted by J_Palmer_Cass View Post

Good reminder. I forgot about that setup. That is the absolute scale (not in dB, or is it?). Even absolute scales vary. All the way up on one of my older receivers was 50 on the absolute scale, and 0 dB was all the way down.

The 0 dB we are talking applies to the relative dB scale. Minus infinity is all the way down on my receiver.

My Blu-ray player goes from 0-100. Reference level is somewhere in there. I have my speakers calibrated to 75db.

I know what the range of the regular AVR is. Usually Infinity on the low end, +15db (or so) on the upper end.
post #14342 of 16113
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Originally Posted by J_Palmer_Cass View Post

Everything went right by you again. That was not my point. I asked you what the calibrated reference level setting is on your master volume control. I also asked if your receiver is a standard or THX rated receiver.

I responded to your above in post number 14330 when I posted:

"The receiver is a Denon AVR4520CI, non-THX: –79.5dB – 18.0dB : Display ---dB (Min), in the range –79.5 dB to 18.0 dB: pg 124 PDF manual."

"Everything went right by you again."

Again with the snarkyness.

Here's a clue that you missed:

"I simply posted my experience with "Pacific Rim" when I posted:

"Oh my gosh! Just finished watching "Pacific Rim.""

For those who are into bass, as is the purpose of the thread, it's an excellent movie for bassheads to enjoy.

...biggrin.gif

I'm not looking for an argument but I did enjoy some killer bass today and that's what it's all about with subwoofers and this thread.

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post #14343 of 16113
Right on beeman! I also enjoyed the hard hitting low frequency in Pacific rim!

I wish there was more ultra low but either way I found some nice "chest slam" scenes
post #14344 of 16113
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Originally Posted by newc33 View Post

Right on beeman! I also enjoyed the hard hitting low frequency in Pacific rim!

I wish there was more ultra low but either way I found some nice "chest slam" scenes

Of the bass heavy movies being posted about of late, in my opinion, "Pacific Rim" is the best. In my opinion, it was a constant, heavy, reference level orgy of bass coming at the viewer almost non-stop.

...biggrin.gif

(now that's what I'm talking about)

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post #14345 of 16113
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

Of the bass heavy movies being posted about of late, in my opinion, "Pacific Rim" is the best. In my opinion, it was a constant, heavy, reference level orgy of bass coming at the viewer almost non-stop.

...biggrin.gif

(now that's what I'm talking about)

...biggrin.gif
I found the bass in PR to be quite monotone with no real distinction from one scene to the next. Sure it was loud. Not particularly deep. It was not well done bass like oblivion, Elysium or Enders game which I just watched last night.

Bummed the rental only had DD and that affected parts of the soundtrack but the bass moments were there and quite nice. My remote kept getting vibrated off my couch. smile.gif
post #14346 of 16113
Watched Halo 4 last night. Surprisingly pretty good bass but the story stunk to high heaven.
post #14347 of 16113
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Originally Posted by Kini62 View Post

I found the bass in PR to be quite monotone with no real distinction from one scene to the next. Sure it was loud. Not particularly deep. It was not well done bass like oblivion, Elysium or Enders game which I just watched last night.

Bummed the rental only had DD and that affected parts of the soundtrack but the bass moments were there and quite nice. My remote kept getting vibrated off my couch. smile.gif

I felt the other movies you listed had better bass design but I personally had the most fun watching Pacific Rim ! biggrin.gif
post #14348 of 16113
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

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Originally Posted by J_Palmer_Cass View Post

Everything went right by you again. That was not my point. I asked you what the calibrated reference level setting is on your master volume control. I also asked if your receiver is a standard or THX rated receiver.

I responded to your above in post number 14330 when I posted:

"The receiver is a Denon AVR4520CI, non-THX: –79.5dB – 18.0dB : Display ---dB (Min), in the range –79.5 dB to 18.0 dB: pg 124 PDF manual."

"Everything went right by you again."

Again with the snarkyness.

Here's a clue that you missed:

"I simply posted my experience with "Pacific Rim" when I posted:

"Oh my gosh! Just finished watching "Pacific Rim.""

For those who are into bass, as is the purpose of the thread, it's an excellent movie for bassheads to enjoy.

...biggrin.gif

I'm not looking for an argument but I did enjoy some killer bass today and that's what it's all about with subwoofers and this thread.

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OK, so be specific. What number between "Display ---dB (Min), in the range –79.5 dB to 18.0 dB" represents your calibrated reference level setting on the master volume control???

I missed the posting that you quoted above. It got caught between my other postings.. Saying that your mains trim is set to -17.5 dB clears things up quite a bit.
Edited by J_Palmer_Cass - 2/15/14 at 6:52pm
post #14349 of 16113
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Originally Posted by Kini62 View Post

I found the bass in PR to be quite monotone with no real distinction from one scene to the next. Sure it was loud. Not particularly deep.

I can't argue your experience but in our case, the bass had many different frequencies and as to deep, again I can't argue your experience but we had everything from rumbles, rolls, waves, things moved, sound hit the back of the love seat, the padded cushion was hopping around with my butt in it; in short, all kinds a tactile sensation. But that's my experience, not yours. Must suck to be me.

... biggrin.gif

We used a blu-ray disc that bitstreamed to the receiver which decoded to PCM and I listened in DTS-HD Master Audio sound. The track has a dynamic range of 60dB to 115dB. Sorry to read it didn't work for you.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 2/15/14 at 6:53pm
post #14350 of 16113
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

I can't argue your experience but in our case, the bass had many different frequencies and as to deep, again I can't argue your experience but we had everything from rumbles, rolls, waves, things moved, sound hit the back of the love seat, the padded cushion was hopping around with my butt in it; in short, all kinds a tactile sensation. But that's my experience, not yours. Must suck to be me. biggrin.gif

I guess it does since you are hearing things that are not there.

PR bass in just one basic note at one basic frequency for most of the movie. Very monotonous.

I guess there was some variation but not much. It wasn't well done at all. Especially in comparison to 4 and 5 star star rated movies out there.
post #14351 of 16113
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Originally Posted by J_Palmer_Cass View Post

OK, so be specific. What number between "Display ---dB (Min), in the range –79.5 dB to 18.0 dB" represents your calibrated reference level setting on the master volume control???

I missed the posting that you quoted above. It got caught between my other postings.. Saying that your mains trim is set to -17.5 dB clears things up quite a bit.

I have been specific. In the case of Audyssey, MVC of +/-0dBfs is reference level playback, with the assumption that the system is capable of full on reference level playback. As posted, I was -17.5dBfs down from +/-0dBfs. Every one of my posts have been specific and I've reflected this information several times. confused.gif

Not sure what your trying to find out. confused.gif
post #14352 of 16113
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Originally Posted by Kini62 View Post

I guess it does since you are hearing things that are not there.

As I posted, I have no idea what you heard. If you say I didn't hear what I heard, then you must be right and I am happy with my delusions.
post #14353 of 16113
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

As I posted, I have no idea what you heard. If you say I didn't hear what I heard, then you must be right and I am happy with my delusions.
My response was the way it was because your post wast just another one of your underhanded insults.
post #14354 of 16113
Stop. There was nothing underhanded about the comment. It was a straight forward comment with no subterfuge. You need to stop looking for trouble where there isn't any.

What is wrong with saying I can't argue with what you hear? I can't. I'm clueless to what you're hearing. That's rational. If you can't hear it, I believe you. And what, all of a sudden, I can't make fun of myself because if I make fun of myself, I'm insulting you?

You're the one telling me I'm not hearing what I'm hearing. What, I can argue this point? So now your mad because I agreed with you? If I don't agree with you I'm arguing and if I agree with you I'm giving an underhanded insult?

There were no insults in my comments. Please don't respond to any of my posts because you think I'm insulting you when I'm not.

In my opinion, "Pacific Rim" was the best bass movie I've heard of late and if a person is a basshead, I highly recommend it. But again, that's my opinion and nobody else's.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 2/15/14 at 7:27pm
post #14355 of 16113
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Originally Posted by GPBURNS View Post

Inside (A_Linterieur).
DTS-MA – French
First off this movie kind of freaked me out
Watching this at reference did not help
LFE is excellent – audio had a lot of those jump moments
and hits pretty hard at times – couple sweep seemed really low
maybe single digits .
Only issue was fidelity not always top notch
and some edge to the audio – if speakers lean to bright side
would definitely be issue
Its older flick so probably never measured - be interesting to see

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Originally Posted by BornSlippyZ View Post

+1
This movie had some incredible BASS and very disturbing imo! For me this was a one time watch, or maybe around Halloween this year and I adore Horror flicks!

once was too much for me - I actually turned my head away one time - I have never done that ever - yes - disturbing is the better word -
I watched the unedited version
oh and to suck you bassheads into watching it - it has a Pulse type sweep near the end
post #14356 of 16113
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Originally Posted by GPBURNS View Post


once was too much for me - I actually turned my head away one time - I have never done that ever - yes - disturbing is the better word -
I watched the unedited version
oh and to suck you bassheads into watching it - it has a Pulse type sweep near the end

After that review? I don't think so.

...tongue.gif
post #14357 of 16113
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

After that review? I don't think so.

...tongue.gif
I thought you just ordered it
post #14358 of 16113
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Originally Posted by GPBURNS View Post

I thought you just ordered it

Nooooooo! tongue.gif

Based on your review of AIL, I ordered AIL.

...LOL

...biggrin.gif

(UPS, it will be here Monday)
post #14359 of 16113
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

Nooooooo! tongue.gif

Based on your review of AIL, I ordered AIL.

...LOL

...biggrin.gif

(UPS, it will be here Monday)

based on what you seem to like and new super hot set-up - don't think you will be impressed with it at all
post #14360 of 16113
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Originally Posted by GPBURNS View Post

based on what you seem to like and new super hot set-up - don't think you will be impressed with it at all

(says the guy with "11400 Watts of Seaton Power.")

I'm versatile. tongue.gif

My wife and I will watch it together and hey, what straight gal doesn't like a Robert Redford movie?

In the meantime you pointed out what a special sound track it had and that alone is worth the price of admission.

How loud did you listen to AIL at on the MVC?

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 2/15/14 at 7:37pm
post #14361 of 16113
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

Watched Halo 4 last night. Surprisingly pretty good bass but the story stunk to high heaven.

Try enders game. I'm watching it now. Has some of the best most powerful lfe I have ever experienced.

Make sure the limiter is on for this one boys.

Had my fv15hps doing some work! smile.gif
post #14362 of 16113
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Originally Posted by newc33 View Post

Try enders game. I'm watching it now. Has some of the best most powerful lfe I have ever experienced.

Make sure the limiter is on for this one boys.

Had my fv15hps doing some work! smile.gif

You know you're an AVS addict when you pause a movie to give a review on how good the LFE is. biggrin.gif
post #14363 of 16113
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Originally Posted by newc33 View Post

Try enders game. I'm watching it now. Has some of the best most powerful lfe I have ever experienced.

Make sure the limiter is on for this one boys.

Had my fv15hps doing some work! smile.gif
Already watched it and yea it had some awesome bass. Gonna buy it soon.
post #14364 of 16113
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Originally Posted by bass addict View Post

You know you're an AVS addict when you pause a movie to give a review on how good the LFE is. biggrin.gif

Hahah yeah no doubt! I couldn't hold back! I absolutely loved the bass in this one! Powerful, deep, quality/realistic. Just simply amazing bass imo
post #14365 of 16113
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Originally Posted by newc33 View Post

Hahah yeah no doubt! I couldn't hold back! I absolutely loved the bass in this one! Powerful, deep, quality/realistic. Just simply amazing bass imo

Poor timing on my part. I tore apart my theater to upgrade crossovers in my mains and add another couple subs at the back of the theater. Disc is sitting in my rack mocking me. biggrin.gif
post #14366 of 16113
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Originally Posted by GPBURNS View Post


once was too much for me - I actually turned my head away one time - I have never done that ever - yes - disturbing is the better word -
I watched the unedited version
oh and to suck you bassheads into watching it - it has a Pulse type sweep near the end

Thanks for the rec. I might have missed it, but could not find this on Netflix. frown.gif Found it on Amazon, but only on DVD. I will check again as I might have missed it somehow.

Watched Carrie and All is Lost tonight and what a contrast for bass! Carrie IMO was very forgettable and the bass experience was just like it measured for me. It was frustrating as a lot of the big bass effects felt like they wanted to hit that last section of weight, depth and impact, but never did. frown.gif The low end really did feel a bit chopped off and just plain incomplete. Should have been better.

All is Lost on the other hand.......WOW! Nube and GPBURNS nailed this one from my perspective and like Nube said, what is up with these ocean liner type films lately? Kon-Tiki, Captain Phillips and now All is Lost and all 3 have stellar LFE and overall audio. Numerous LFE moments in AiL and as great as the big long scene toward the end was, my favorite LFE/sound section was the Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
entire major storm sequence when he was still on his main boat
. This whole section was just pure audio nirvana! cool.gif Some of the most amazing surround work I have heard as well which just pulled it all together for this completely immersive, transparent 360 degree soundfield that pulled you right into the film. Amazing audio though and another amazing HT experience.

On a side note, while video was generally great, there was some very odd banding off and on that was a bit unfortunate. Looked great otherwise.
Edited by Toe - 2/15/14 at 10:12pm
post #14367 of 16113
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Thanks for the rec. I might have missed it, but could not find this on Netflix. frown.gif Found it on Amazon, but only on DVD. I will check again as I might have missed it somehow.

Hi Toe, I found it on Netflix as "Inside" unrated.
post #14368 of 16113
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi Toe, I found it on Netflix as "Inside" unrated.


Thanks! Found it. smile.gif
post #14369 of 16113
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Originally Posted by J_Palmer_Cass View Post

So the automated process set your trims just as accurate as the SPL method. Very nice.

Does 0 dB on your master volume control represent the reference level setting? Have you tested this out with a DD test disk as compared with a DTS test disk?

Yes 0 on the master volume is reference. I don't have a DD test disc but between the DTS disc confirming the Auydyssey results I 'm fairly confident all is well. I used the same method with my Anthem pre/pro(which was THX certified) but went as far as to use the internal tones from the Oppo 95 as well as the DTS disc along with a THX dvd which had an optimizer on it.
post #14370 of 16113
Just finished Ender's Game and will only have to say it sits side by side to Oblivion's dynamics and track extremely well to reference volume but I must say best it down low by a factor of two for depth and note transition (or octave) and delineation and natural decay, simply superb ELF reproduction wink.gif

I did send the Netflix version back (16hz?) and went for the blind buy cool.gif
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