The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts - Page 53

Owning expensive gear is one thing using a bd with little or no bass content is something else. Remember Suckerpunch guys...

Sucker punch had more than captain america like the giants and dragon. Captain America seems to be oddly lacking of bass.

Completely agree...scenes that should've been bass heavy just didnt have any.

I was disappointed in the bass on both Sucker Punch and Captain America. But at least with CA, there was some quality bass at nearly every opportunity, just not quite loud enough. At least this made it possible to run my subs hotter and have it sound great. On SP, there were a couple of very good bass scenes, but too many times there was just nothing. I much preferred CA.

I watched CA yesterday. It was lacking in extension and power, but had a quality to it that I very much enjoyed. Can't put my finger on it...

I agree. Except for the scene with the plane taking off, the LFE wasn't all that deep. But the amount of bass in the sound track was decent, and there were plenty of good surround effects in the action scenes.


Ian

I will say that CA had good bass, unfortunately it was all mid bass and hardly any subsonic bass. My system has four mid bass subs and one SVS PB12/2 and my SVS hardly let out a peep during the entire movie. The only time the sub kicked on was at the very end of the movie after the credits when the trailer for "The Avengers" came on, then and only then did my SVS come to life and fill the room with bass.

It irks me to no end when sound engineers enact a subsonic filter (in CA case at 25Hz) especially during a movie like this. I watched "The Blues Brothers" right after CA and there was far more sub 25Hz bass in a musical comedy than a superhero action movie. Sad just sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIblZ...e_gdata_player

IMAX Hubble launch...great 3D by the way
I thought it was kinda funny how Leo dicaprio's brother did the narration

Wow that must have set you back $20million a kilo...

Amen to that. Money spent is generally irrelevant. It's the overall score of your system in your room and only measurements can tell the tale.

FWIW, I also rate CA with 4 stars. What that means for me is that the effects have a very good spread of frequencies, they have a unique sonic signature, but the mix is not worthy of 5 stars, like say, HTTYD, which has all of the above with the addition of some OMG effects and levels.

Chapter 4 Schmidt takes the injection:

Chapter 10 CA & friend cross the girder:

Chapter 12 Blowing up the tank:

Chapter 12 Firefight on the train:

Chapter 14 CA chases Schmidt:

Chapter 14 Reinforcements arrive:

Chapter 14 Schmidt fires up the delta wing, CA chases:

Chapter 15 Schmidt/CA fight dislodges the power cube:

Chapter 15 Power cube destroys Schmidt:


Bosso

Captain America had quality bass, but not a huge quantity. I agree with 4 stars for CA. Although, I still say the sheer amount and volume and quality usage of bass in Transformers 3 makes it 5 stars, even if it didn't have many super low OMG effects.

I also watched Hubble IMAX and was underwhelmed. It had a couple of quality moments, but I was not impressed overall with the sound mix, especially not with the weird popping (that was not an issue with my system) during the 2nd launch. It was pretty interesting, and had some beautiful cinematography in a few parts, though. I'm a big nerd, so I might have enjoyed it more than some.

I'm still surprised nobody here has graphed Trollhunter. It's such a fun monster movie, and it's perfect for Halloween! Not the greatest in any respect, but substantial amounts of bass that really helped the storytelling. Overall, an enjoyable movie for both cinema buffs and bossobasses.

Well, it seems according to post#1572 that I wasn't spreading "false" information. Any confusion it may have caused is unfortunate. Considering that it's just my own subjective opinion listening to it on my particular HT set up in my acoustical environment, which is unique for everybody. Again, not a big deal either way.

Agreed. 4 stars

And thanks for posting those graphs and labeling what scenes they corresponding to. I was running the Outlaw plugged in extension mode and some of those scenes were pretty powerful.

The Warrior's Way with Kate Bosworth.

Very strong soundtrack. Quality LFE here, not quantity. However, this movie is a surround sound showpiece. Particularly the fly buzzing scene with Yang in the laundry shack, not to mention all the gunfire and swordplay. The gunshots are pretty tactile and almost a little over board, like they did it on purpose. Reminds me of Hot Fuzz.

Your assessment of Captain America was similar to my own: although I would have preferred more LFE, what it had was excellent. Better yet the overall design of its 7.1 HD audiotrack was stellar.

Glad to see some emerging support for CA. After the initial impressions here, I watched it with expectations of disappointment. Then, didn't know what to think when it was satisfying.

Make sure you get the blu-ray edition of the Jurassic Park Trilogy.

Ralph Potts gave the 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio a 96 rating.
Here's his review of the audio:

The Jurassic Park films have traditionally been used as demo material to show off the audio chops of home theater so I had high expectations for the lossless 7.1 channel DTS-HD Master Audio soundtracks. I am happy to report that the results met my expectations and then some. Each of these mixes run the gamut between moments of simple spoken dialogue to thunderous dynamically charged sequences that deliver opulent surround sound. Vocal reproduction is excellent. Detail is first rate which brings out the finely articulated nuance of background elements within the mix. Dynamics are demonstrative as the aggressive elements contained in the soundtrack pulsate with superior authority and powerful deep bass transients. John Williams' music score/theme is carefully integrated into the sound design and sounds wonderfully detailed, acoustically transparent and dimensional. Surround use is prevalent and achieves a high level of envelopment that is appreciably involving. The soundstage both front and rear is effectively used to simulate off camera cues, integrate the onscreen action and to seamlessly envelope the listening position creating a stable and detail rich surround experience. They all sound terrific but if I had to give the edge to one it would be Jurassic Park. Being more familiar with its soundtrack I heard details and minutia that I hadn't noticed before which made it all more enjoyable.

^Yes...the Jurassic Park BD is awesome. I have only watched the first movie so far but was blown away by the audio.

I don't have any waterfalls or any other measurements but I felt like I was getting punched in the chest and gut when the dinosaurs would stomp around...it made for a great evening.

I picked up the JP trilogy, but haven't watched yet as I'm waiting for an "empty house" to really crank it.

I'm glad to see it appears that my money has been well spent on this one. I already own the DVDs but am switching favorites over to Bluray.

Chris

just watched Shaun of the Dead last night and it had a ton of bass, surprisingly...

I had never seen Shaun of the Dead until I rented the BD when it came out last year. It immediately became of of my favorite guilty pleasures. Simon Pegg is a funny fellow. I didn't pay much attention to the film's LFE but your post encourages me to watch it again and pay more attention to it's audiotrack.

Hope you guys are aware of another Simon Pegg movie, "Hot Fuzz". It's a five star, and probably a top 5 all time in my book for LFE.

You guys kill me. Captain America had plenty of low frequencies and was not filtered!! It was not as loud as say a 5 star bass movie but why do we have our own HT's? We can turn up the LFE and makes things perfect!!! If the LFE is low so be it, rate it 3 stars but don't watch it that way, turn it up or do whatever to make it sound good to you. Lets not forget the reason we are in this hobby, we enjoy movies and movies with great sound with bass. I usually watch with my LFE hot so all movies usually sound great but when it blowsme away I no I have a 5 star on my hands like HTTYD. I watched it with my kids the other day at -10MV but for fun ran the LFE +10 so the LFE was at reference still. Lets just say you know when you have a 5 star bass movie. Like Cloverfield, just watching the intro credits and it hits really hard! Anyways, CA has lots of bass, turn it up and enjoy!!!!

I turned up captain America last night and it was pretty good with the bass cranked up.

For some odd reason it is against the law to crank up the sub levels to compensate for LFE that is recorded low.

I guess my thought was, if we crank the LFE up when we feel like it on certain movies, then what's the point of doing a serious calibration at all? We should just forget all the room eq stuff and just do what sounds good to us. Or is that a simplistic view of things. For what it's worth, I have my room eq'ed with Audyessy XT32 and a SMS-1 and I think it sounds great.

Cranking can be 3 db's. If one has a serious front stage the speakers can handle a hot LFE and be very clear.

Is that an answer to his question?

Testing has shown that most people prefer a flat response but that is with the audible range. I like my LFE hot so I can feel more.