The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts - Page 73

Wolf,

I only do them now when I am curious about a film's LF spectrum.....It takes me about 20 min to set up to do it, and then I have to run the whole film w/o sound....

I've gotten to enjoy films as a whole presentation more and not be so concerned about the couch-shaking, unless it fits in with the film...

Bass without good visuals and context is not much fun....if it was, everyone would just play sinewaves...


JSS

Saying Emily Rose lacks extension is like calling Dwight Howard's arms `stubs'!!

Just finished watching The Pacific. The sound mix, bass, & score was a work of art! I haven't heard stuff this good in a while, hopefully this becomes a benchmark. The Iwo Jima scene was intense! My chair, clothes, hair, & vision was shaking from the blasts.

Oki,thanks for info looking forward to see those : )

Nicke

Agree! Watched Fast Five last night and there was nothing special about the low end in this one. Very tame considering how over the top the material was. 3 stars at best IMO.

That's probably what I'll do... a waterfall every now and then to satisfy my curiosity. I want to do one on the piano throw in Spiderwick to see what was in there. But I think my days of sitting here running Hypercube all night and trying to seek through a demuxed WAV file to find the good bass moments are probably done. I just don't have time for that anymore.

As for my opinion of Emily Rose... it's just my opinion. Nobody has to agree with it. I felt something was lacking in that movie, so I gave it four and a half. I'm not going to change my mind unless I run it again and it impresses me more. No plans on that anytime soon.

And I'm not chasing 5Hz in this house - it's impossible with my income

Iwo Jima scene was unreal, best of the series. Only thing that compares IMO is the helo ride to the staging area in Battle:LA....

+1. I just rewatched the movie for the first time in several years. It's a pretty good horror flick and it has bass galore. It lacks nothing in the bass department. My room was groaning at times.

I don't have time to debate something this simple that is common knowledge. There is plenty of literature available on the subject from a variety of sources. I am legitimately trying to help you get accurate waterfalls that is all.

Your waterfall screenshot from SL for Hanna shows very obvious clipping of the input on the peaks. I have cut out and blown up parts of your picture that show it and attached them.

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The signal strength bar on the right of the picture indicates clipping if the signal ever reaches the edge or -0. The top chart that indicates signal strength by frequency is also indicating -0 or zero headroom if the level reaches the top. However in practice this chart will indicate much lower energy as the total signal strength is much stronger than indicated at any one frequency peak. The fact that this chart also shows that the input headroom is being exceeded is yet another indicator.

A simple test that anyone can do with spectrum lab is to feed it a signal that leaves some headroom on the input and then crank the level up on the same signal to where it overloads the input and compare the apparent frequencies captured in the signal. The 2 will result in notable differences with the clipped signal producing much more apparent ultra low frequencies.

Ha! Last week I bought my first SVSound, the same PC12 as you. After work today, I swung around the local video re-seller and browsed their shelf with the Master List page loaded on my mobile. Picked up How To Train Your Dragon and War Of The Worlds because the prices were right. New Year get-together tomorrow with good friends and girlfriends. I can't wait, I feel like I was born for this. No, really.

Thread starter and contributors, thank you so much.

District 13 Ultimatum has plenty of bass but not sure how much of it is below 20hz.

Wow, reading your posts brings back the feeling of how much we enjoyed the series. We've been blowing through at least one film a day recently, and looking back after all the films we've seen this year, it just makes me realize how incredibly powerful the series was.

The quality of the film-making in general just pulled me in entirely. From stellar cinema-photography, superb sound design, compelling performances, and of course the tight, concussive LF that accompanies the warfare genre. We were absolutely riveted, and few films elicit that type of response. When I consider the historical significance element, and the entire shared sacrifice of the greatest generation, I find it nearly overwhelming. Plus, the bass is just bad ass,...that's what $200,000,000 gets you,....bad ass bass!


Thanks

I don't think your PC-12-NSD can give you all of Hanna. It has plenty of content in your subs range, but the <20 Hz stuff is a treat as well:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1302

Bosso

As for Hanna and the comment above. I agree this movie will easily take you down low. For 2 years I have been tinkering around trying to tame 3 SVS cylinders (16-46 with 1 port plugged, and 2x20-39s with 2 ports plugged). I knew I was hearing stuff down to 20, and I knew I was feeling some effects down to at least as 15HZ. I think Hanna has become my new practical test piece. This one will clearly go beyond what my setup will reproduce. Last night I was able to appreciate what others are saying about a sense of foreboding and feeling the bass. Now I have this urge to upgrade

Here is a waterfall from Hanna - when the plane passes at approx. 9:36 to 9:50

Hanna - escape from lab - 23:56 to 27:20

Here's mine for comparison:

I must again say thanks for all the nice comments... Episode 8 was one of the two I helped out on (and on the series I was also lucky to also contribute to the sound effects pre mixes...)

And you are absolutely right.. not only about the money, but when the film makers hire you to do a job and let you give it your best shot, this is what you can end up with, even for television.

I just wanted to pass along a funny story about the mix.. when we were doing Episode 8, for most of the time, they were doing the final mix next door of "G.I. Joe.." The two stages are parallel, separated down it's length by the hallway... needless to say, there is a slight amount of LF "leakage" but I used to sit in the hallway between the two for a break and the entire hall was shaking for weeks on end... it was an experience.

Haha what I would have given to be there. I really want to grab the new combo BoB/Pacific set :-)

I saw this one in the theater and even there the bass was not very good. While sitting there I was thinking how much better the bass sounds in my theater at home...

I've been there my man. I think I own everything from 3 stars and up at this point. The list is a great resource when I'm looking for a movie but not sure what I want to get. At least with bass heavy movies the re-watch percentage goes through the roof!

Anyone check out Mars Needs Moms? Me and my son watched this one on Christmas night. It has some really good bass especially when the aliens rocket blasts off after they took the little boy's mother. There is good bass during lots of other scenes also. This was the first time I experienced this in my room. When the aliens rocket takes off, I felt a slight breeze in the rom and thought it was the HVAC system clicking on but it stopped in a few seconds. I then realized it was the air coming from my rear subs behind my seats. They are rear ported so I guess the pressure was blowing out of the ports to the wall and into the seats. I might buy this movie just because of that one scene.

How about Troll Hunter,...I've read good things? Anyone ever capture a spectral profile of it,..or perhaps merely subjective impressions?

This one ?

Troll Hunter has some great LFE moments. Not sure how deep it goes, but its a good LFE flick IMO Not on the same level as the big boys (WOTW, TIH, Cloverfield, etc.......), but will still give you a good LFE fix.

Watched Conan the Barbarian last night and this was easily a 4.5, maybe 5 for LFE IMO......Nice!

So are the old LOTR waterfalls not available since HTS revamped their site??

Troll Hunter - first "hit" approx. 25:20

Once again a lot of distortion.

Just watched Star Trek (2009) this weekend...WOW! Now I know why its rated 5 star! Man the first 10 minutes are amazing!

Watched a double feature last night - How to Train Your Dragon followed by Battle LA. Both on Blu-Ray. Was anxious to see if the latter still felt lacking to me.

I did get the impression Battle LA's DTS Master track was better than the DVD, but as far as it being a five star... I don't know. It still falls short of that for me, especially when HTTYD had my hair moving around and the couch shaking frequently.

I do think Battle LA is still a fiver, but it's not the best of them. No match for HTTYD, anyway.

I'd forgotten how utterly distracting the camera work in Battle LA was. Oh look, a conversation in a hall. Zoom in, zoom out, twitch left, twitch right, up, down, up again, zoom out a little more. Annoying.