The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts - Page 80

You have to know what channels the infra is on before you can even make that claim. Barely make 25 to 30 Hz on what channels?

The main channel speakers in that setting can not go as deep as the LFE/subwoofer channel. A lot of movies have next to nothing below 20 hz on the LFE channel along with plenty on infra on the main channels.

Elektra was decent...kind of like that one film daredevil ithink lol

For $5 it was worth a shot. The audio is great at least

That it is.

Tonight's undiscovered gem: TMNT. Terrible animation, forgettable story, potentially five star LFE. Got it out of the two dollar DVD bin, just for nostalgia's sake - constantly watched the show as a kid. Was not expecting this kind of LFE from it. Lots of scenes that went down to the bottom of the tapped horns' capabilities, and it doesn't make you wait long.

Currently running Hypercube on it to see just how low some scenes go, but from what I could hear it's promising. The lightning bolts near the end remind me of the WotW ray gun blasts.

TMNT - DVD, Dolby Digital

Hypercube via the Behringer UCA222, as usual.

I was too curious to wait, so I got some waterfalls. Good gravy. Yeah, this is a fiver to me. I only got a couple scenes because it's getting late, but it's a short movie. This is by no means the end of the LFE in this movie.

Now, I know what's coming... honestly, I was sure I was getting clipping. But after multiple level tweaks of both input and output levels, I'm not so sure anymore. I get the feeling this one really does get down that low.

Melancholia has two good scenes of LFE.

Same volume level for both screencaps.
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Just sitting down and watching Real Steal wow the opening bull fight seen has a dam good LFE

I like the dancing robots

me too I saw dancing with the stars once

Real steel is at least a 4.5 if not 5 on lfe. R.S. has real puncy tight and hard hitting bas throughout the movie. My FW15.3 was rocking the house

Agreed. I would say a solid 4.5. Great LFE film!

Tonight's movie was Babylon AD on DVD. Voting 4.5 stars on this one. Good thing it has the LFE, because I wasn't that impressed with the story. The submarine scene was fun. Thought I'd seen it before, which is why it took me so long to get it, but I must not have. Vin Diesel has that effect on me - if I've seen one of his characters, I've seen them all

Downgrading my vote for TMNT to 4.5 as well... great extension, but it doesn't really have enough scenes with that extension to carry the five.

Final Destination 5 has some good bass scenes!

Hmm... that one was also in the $5 bin. Should have grabbed that too, I guess. I'd already seen it a couple times though, and it's not my favorite.

I'll downgrade my own vote on Elektra to four stars from 4.5. Now that I think about it, it doesn't have a whole lot of major LFE scenes compared to even Babylon AD. That said, mine is the director's cut.

i watched that a bit ago, when car drops on pavement was quite a thump!

I believe you and the reason I use bass management so I never miss any bass no matter what channel it comes from. My new discovery is to crossover at 150hz and the midbass is just fantastic letting the subs do it. I used to have giant speakers before to get this midbass and cross over at 40-80hz but no need now, just make sure the speakers sound as dynamic and big as the sub system though. The reason theaters don't have much bass is because there mains are only good to 50hz or so and they use full range mixing. There subs can go down to 20-22hz so if the LFE channel has more info that movie will have more bass because the subs are doing it. The only theater I have been to that actually has bass that can raise your hair was from the Albany, NY IMAX at crossgates mall. The bass is great especially for a 500 plus seat theater.

Do you run your subwoofers in stereo since you crossover at 150 hz?

A lot of subwoofers do not play well when crossed at 150 Hz, but obviously yours do well up that high. Do you have a current thread on your present setup?

Anyway, I should do a 5.1 channel waterfall of Star Trek. Interesting mix method that they used on that one!

Tee hee. I changed the frequency range a bit, and did not resize.

Star Trek starting at 40 minutes and 15 seconds. This is the part when Sulu is introduced, the fleet warps out into space and the Enterprise follows with it's own warp (top).

The sound mixer is working all channels when they go to warp. The end result is that there is significant bass being redirected at the same time from all channels to the subwoofer.




TOP Spectrogram: White line represents estimated "Reference Level", Red line represents long term average, and Green line represents peak levels. Note that the signal generator used for the "reference level" estimate was only rated to 10 Hz.


RIGHT Amplitude Graph: Blue is left side amplitude, Red is right side amplitude, White is overlap between the two channels.



Left channel on left and Right channel on right. Seems to be some significant infra here at times (red & pink color in waterfall). A little stereo bass can be seen at times here also (compare R & L channels).









LFE channel on left and Center channel on right. LFE channel has the highest amplitude of any channel. At times the Center channel also has a very high amount of energy relative to the Right and Left channels.

Also notice the frequency range that the LFE channel is working at high levels. Turn off your LFE channel and listen to this sample to see what that means.






Left Surround channel on left and Right Surround channel on right.

Awesome! Nice work, JPC.

Real Steel is the real deal. I can't see this one being anything other than a five star. Every single time the robots were on screen, my hair was moving and the couch was shaking.

It's movies like this that make me glad I went to the trouble of building the tapped horns. Need to take the rental copy back tomorrow and go get myself the Blu-Ray next time I'm in the city. Didn't hurt that the movie itself was better than I was expecting. Although still not that great - I mean, come on... a soldering gun on a small PCB? You fail electronics class, Evangeline.

Watching Inception on BD (DTS-HD Master) and right at the beginning of the movie there's a very loud thud that makes it feel like someone kicked the back of my couch hard. I haven't read much about this, does anyone have more info about this scene, or maybe I got a defective BD?

I vote 4 star for real steel. Good LFE but not very deep and high level at the same time. 5 stars would be same as Cloverfield and WotW and I dont think RS is anywhere close to that. A couple of very good scenes though in the movie, but, I want more of them for a higher score.
Movie was much better than expected though.

Theres a low frequency thud in the beginning are the beach scene I believe. See the waterfall plots on page 1?

Yeah, there is a nice 10hz thump in the beginning when the camera lands on Leo laying on the beach.

That is funny...noticed the same thing...just watched this a couple days ago and when he is lying on the beach...some lfe (waves crashing) then a pause and big time thud...not sure why it was there and rewinded to listen to it several times....just seemed inappropriate . Lots of fun lf in that one.

Watched super 8 for the second time...after hearing some not thinking the lf was very good decided to slide it back in after a month or two. Well, IMO, the 2nd time was just as good as the first...alot of fun.

I tried to get the scene where Zeus jumps into the ring, but not sure this is it. Looks like it has lots of extension to me. I'm still at five stars, but could see four and a half too. It's just this movie has so many scenes like this, I don't have a problem arguing with five stars. It's a little like Scott Pilgrim for me.

Page 1 of this thread? I don't see any waterfall plot for Inception there, can you point me in the right direction?

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